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Dave
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 5382
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 8:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Debby, in most cases I think you're right about sharing defense points, but here the obvious end result of this going to trial is the end of the Internet as we know it. No one would ever again host an online forum if they could be sued for something a third party copied and pasted from an official Board of Education web site that the message board owners never even read and were never requested to remove.

I'm doing a lot of case work background research myself. Zeran v. America On-Line, Inc. is an important case, as is the recent decision on Emerson's web site. Then there's federal law, like the Communications Decency Act (sec. 230), which is fairly clear about these issues.

By doing a lot of the legwork myself, I hope we can save the majority of donated funds to split between Maplewood & South Orange Rescue Squads and other deserving parties. We're also waiting on word from the Electronic Frontier Foundation and Public Citizen about legal assistance. If anyone is a member of one of these organizations or has other contacts, any lobbying is much appreciated.

I'm working other online communities for support, as well. MOL and the Internet will remain free, but we often have to fight for things. And hiding the fight won't help. We have to send a message to those who would remove our freedoms that they have a losing battle on their hands.
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Taylor M
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Username: Anotherusername

Post Number: 329
Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 8:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LL Wonder if the Ledger will now get sued!!! ROTFLMAO
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LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Username: Librarylady

Post Number: 2238
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 8:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The question is, will I?
Spoke to Lil Miss LL who graduated with the 2 ex-students. She can't believe this isn't all done and over with after 2 years. She initally was on their side, feeling that they were not treated fairly by the administration (to wish I politely disagreed)> But after this stunt she said she's lost all respect for them and now thinks that perhaps the district wasn't so harsh.
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree

Post Number: 3936
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know any of the parties involved, nor anyone at the school during the event.

But, LL reminds me of something. The plaintiffs are now, what, 20 y/o? I've seen other situations where a civil incident, with three legitimate sides to the story (one side, the other side and the truth in the middle) was inflamed because a lawyer decided they could make a name for themselves, get some publicity, fight injustice and make some money.

I'm more inclined to lose respect for full grown adults who pursue frivolous lawsuits for personal gains.

These kids are still immature and impressionable.
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Reflective
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Username: Reflective

Post Number: 759
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A former FBI agent
Intimidating others to validate her agenda
Indifferent to constitutional protections of citizens

It kinda figures- sorry to say
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Taylor M
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Username: Anotherusername

Post Number: 330
Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 2:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Were these 2 monors when this happened? If they were that COULD be what the 'problem' is.

As for the lawyer, sounds like she has an agenda. Her husband Dennis sued the school system himself a few years ago.
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Dave -agent of MOL
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 5384
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 1:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I did pro-bono work for SOMEA in 1990. That must mean nothing. If it did, some lobbying would be happening at this moment to get MOL tossed off the suit.

If any teachers are reading this, do the right thing and call Mr. Dennis. When teachers needed someone to step-up, I did. I now need them to return the favor.
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anon
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Username: Anon

Post Number: 1672
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 5:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Suing MOL is like suing the letter carrier who delivered Mr. H's letter home to the parents."

It's worse. It's like suing the store where you bought the mail box into which the letter was deposited!
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johnny
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Username: Johnny

Post Number: 1197
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How do you inadvertently strike a security guard?
This lawsuit is bull. Just another waste of our taxpayer dollars.

The kids graduated and are now attending college. Can they really claim they have been harmed?

Also another example of a situation being poorly handled by Super H. How does this guy keep his job?
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sbenois
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Username: Sbenois

Post Number: 13262
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

How do you inadvertently strike a security guard?




That is one great question.
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Albatross
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Username: Albatross

Post Number: 531
Registered: 9-2004


Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The lawsuit has been filed not only against specific people but a few dozen "John Does." How does this lawsuit intend to collect claims against these persons?
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Dave -agent of MOL
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 5395
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Moreover, shouldn't residents named John Doe sue the plaintiffs and their attorney for defamation?
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Dave -agent of MOL
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 5400
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 2:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I once bit my tongue inadvertently while eating steak. I didn't sue anyone, let alone the beef industry, which has big bucks.

I even fell through a trap-door in Sbenois' house once and didn't sue.

dang, I better shut up and stop giving the prosecution ideas!
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sbenois
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Username: Sbenois

Post Number: 13267
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 3:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It was a step you blind bat
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Dave -agent of MOL
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 5404
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 3:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tell it to the judge.

Furthermore, you didn't make me sign a waiver upon my entrance indicating you had varying levels.
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sbenois
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Username: Sbenois

Post Number: 13268
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 3:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You signed the waiver when Duncan met you in the restaurant at my table
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Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13

Post Number: 609
Registered: 1-2004


Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 2:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm curious about something. In the original letter posted on the BOE website about the 'incident' in the CHS Cafe I don't recall the names of the students involved being mentioned. Were they? And if they weren't, what are the grounds for this insane lawsuit?

Were names mentioned on the CHS PA system?

Anyone know first hand?
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us2inFL
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Username: Us2innj

Post Number: 1236
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 6:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How did the furniture maker that makes the cafeteria table get involved in this?

What a total load of turd.
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Dave -agent of MOL
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 5416
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 6:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

bump

Yo, teachers, doing anything tomorrow? How bout a few phone calls, huh?
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Chris Prenovost
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Username: Chris_prenovost

Post Number: 362
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 7:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Someone suggested that we should demonstrate in front of these people's houses.

I think that's a great idea and would be glad to participate. Maybe if we do, some people will develop a little common sense.

But just a little

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