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Debby
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Posted on Sunday, March 6, 2005 - 9:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm usually pretty good, but the lower right hand corner is really giving me a tough time.

What the hell is "tub-thumped"?
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Joan
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Posted on Sunday, March 6, 2005 - 10:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How many letters?
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Debby
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Posted on Sunday, March 6, 2005 - 11:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

6 _ _ ated, I think
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jem
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Posted on Sunday, March 6, 2005 - 11:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haven't looked at the puzzle yet, but try "orated"
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Rob
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 9:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Orated it is.

Isn't it weird how one week you can fly through it and some friends have a hard time and the next week they fly through it and you draw a blank? I prefer a puzzle that takes a couple of days to complete (like most Saturday puzzles!)
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magmasystems
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 9:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Orated

I just started doing the Times Sunday xword puzzles about 3 months ago, and now much to the chagrin of my wife, it has taken over my Saturday mornings (I get the magazine section delivered on Saturday).

I know that I am getting better at it because, every week, I am using Google less and less...
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Debby
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 9:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jem - thank you. It was, indeed, orated.

Ooh, Rob...I've NEVER finished a Saturday. I bow in your presence.

But, yeah, I definitely have that experience of either zipping through or taking all day.

I find that the word-play ones are my faves, and the multi-part quotes tend to trip me up more.

I think my favorite ever was the Al Hirschfeld tribute puzzle, in which all the long answers contained "NINA".
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Rob
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 10:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I did the Sunday puzzle for years without ever finishing one. Then I met someone who I watched finish it and was amazed. Its all a matter of being less literal and learning to think like the editors do. Now I can usually complete a Sunday (not always). Now the saturday puzzle is a whole other story!
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Mark Fuhrman
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 11:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like the acrostic puzzles at the bottom of the page. Took a while to get the hang of them, but like the "normal" Sunday puzzles it is a matter of thinking the right way, as Rob said. It is fun to see the quotation slowly forming out of chaos. But the puns and anagrams and the diagramless puzzles are beyond me.
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Rob
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 11:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let's not even talk about the diagramless ones. Who has the patience to even figure out where the first clue goes??
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greenetree
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 12:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are all sick. I feel my IQ dropping just reading this thread.

In my long ago, single, NY-dwelling days, I would pick up the Times when it got to the newsstands, around 11:30-12a Sat. night I'd start the puzzle & whatever I didn't finish by Sunday evening went out in the trash.

I guess I'm not very goal-oriented.
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kmk
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 2:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've decided that they are only "easier" now because I am over 40! Life experience counts for something...


My husband and I would get no work done on Sundays because we would read the Times cover to cover. We consciously changed our subscription to Monday to Saturday delivery ONLY. As luck would have it.....we get a Sunday times 99% of the time! I guess the delivery guy just thinks it's easier...
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Lizziecat
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 5:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I finish the puzzle every day. In ink. I've been doing them since college--that's more than 40 years. I have a lucky pen, which helps.
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Soulful Mr T
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 6:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Me, too, Lizzie. I'd aver that I enjoy Saturday's puzzle the most because it's challenging.

I started doing them when I was 19 and now I'm, well, let's just say it's been well over thirty years.

The nice thing is that my 15 year-old son has taken up the Times crossword, too. He's finished a few Monday puzzles and it made him feel great.
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Lizziecat
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 8:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is nice, isn't it, when one's children take up the same interests. My dad always did the Times puzzle, and my 43 year old son has been doing the acrostic and the diagramless for years.
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jem
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 8:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm another one who finishes the puzzle every day. The Monday through Wednesday puzzles go really quickly once you've been doing puzzles regularly. I find doing crosswords both challenging and relaxing in a weird way. I'm with Debby on enjoying the word-play puzzles the most.

I've attempted the diagramless puzzles a couple of times, and I give up on them pretty quickly.
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Debby
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 9:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mom has always done the puzzle every day, and spent Sunday mornings bent over the magazine. My job, as a child, was to bring her Roget's Thesaurus when she got up to the Acrostic.

Does anybody do the diagramless?

P.S. Lizzie - ink's the only way to go. Pencil drags on the paper.

SMT - loved the use of aver. When we got our greyhound I was thinking of naming her "Asta", but it never would have worked with my 3rd and 5th grade boys
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Soulful Mr T
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 9:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Debby,

My next door neighbor's dog is named ASTA.

I liked TUBTHUMPER today. Not a term I'd heard before, but my wife, who is a BRIT, says it's a term used over there, across the pond.

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Mark Fuhrman
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 10:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rob--they give you the first clue on the answers to last week's puzzles, but even with that cheat I still can't get very far with the diagramless.

Oh yeah, I love the ones where they give you two words with two letters in common and you have to solve a few dozen of these interlinked words. Also like the spiral conch shells where the words work both backwards and forwards. Can you tell I don't get much done on certain Sundays?
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Debby
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Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 9:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Mark - I love those, too. Forgot all about the nautilus ones - it's been too long.

Anyone else love Games mag Puzzlers ?

My favorite from them is "Pencil Pointers"
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filmboy
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Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 9:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I love the diagramless...but it could take a week or more to finish.
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jeffl
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Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 11:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used to be addicted to the Times puzzles and then I realized that the first thing I did when I got the paper, including the Sunday paper, was turn to the puzzle. I stopped reading the damn thing. That's when I stopped. Now I read the sports.
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Andrea Weisbard
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Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 11:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't do the NY Times X-word, but my mom does. As well as the ones in the Star ledger. She says it keeps her mind sharp. If it comes to sports she usually calls me, since I am the only one in my family who is totally into sports of all kinds. I do the X-word puzzle in the TV Guide though and I also by X-word puzzle books.
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Soulful Mr T
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Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 1:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I always look at the sports section first during baseball season. This year the Mets may actually make it exciting. In the off season, I go to the obituaries first. I'm not sure why, but I do know I don't want to think about it.
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kathy
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Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 11:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I do the diagramless but I do start by seeing which square it starts on. My grandmother always did the diagramless on graph paper--that way you don't have to commit yourself to a starting square right away. And pencil is too hard for my aging eyes to see--I usually use a red felt-tipped pen. (Which is not to say I don't sometimes have to write over mistakes....)
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Debby
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 8:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So it's genetic!

I'm very impressed.
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Andrew Zorn
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 11:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I see Maplewood Online made the Sunday Times puzzle today. Impressive
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D.
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 1:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What was the question?
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extuscan
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 2:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Got no idea what ur talking about Andrew... and we only missed 2 and 3 down... btw, what were they?

Unless it was the bottom puzzle, laundry won out on that.
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Andrew Zorn
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 3:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I shouldn't really give out an answer to the NYT Puzzle on a public message board. I wouldn't want the Gray Lady going after unathorized readers.












(104 Down)
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extuscan
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 7:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

retell? The MOL connection is still eluding me :-)
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Andrew Zorn
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 9:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does this really "matter" to you?



104...down
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Dave
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 9:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is it like this?

D104: Ms. Pitcher

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Andrew Zorn
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Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 1:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Slightly more profound but you got the idea. (Seemed funnier yesterday.)

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