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bets
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Post Number: 1016
Registered: 6-2001


Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 9:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, this Op/Ed piece appeared weeks ago. Yes, I didn't bring it up. Yes, I hoped someone else would.

There's a sickness that is perpetuating this abhorrent situation. I admit it: I'm guilty. I haven't posted yet, I haven't written yet, I've donated to Tsunami victims, I really HATE it!!!

Yet, it's really happening, and we're (as a country, a nation, a non-partisan PEOPLE) not doing a damn thing to stop it.

My neice forwarded this link to me and begged me to get involved. Part of my involvement is raising awareness here. Did you know about this? Do you care? DID YOU? DO YOU?

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/23/opinion/23kristof.html?hp

un: ickyicky4
pw: ickyicky

Somehow ,typing this generic username/password combo onto the keyboard seems to transfer an oil of shame to the fingertips.

Please, write to Frank Lautenberg, Jon Corzine, Hilary Clinton, Charles Schumer, ANYONE! to stop this mass murder that happens under a heartless, careless American eye.

I cannot promise to monitor this thread, so I hope it doesn't die an undeserved death due to she who's raised the issue.

The people of Sudan need help. Desperately.
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notehead
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Post Number: 2125
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're right, bets. This is still a major, major problem, and all we have really seen so far are speeches. It is ridiculous that so little action has been taken. I have responded to a few requests for contacts to our representatives from various organizations during the past few months, but, sadly, these efforts haven't seemed to accomplish much.
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Robert Livingston
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Post Number: 939
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If Halliburton were able to receive no-bid contracts and overcharge the country for services rendered on oil fields in Sudan, no doubt the Bush administration would be howling about spreadable democracy over there. After all, Sudan has about as many WMD as Iraq had.

However, Bush cannot see any financial reward for Sudanese freedom, therefore the U.S. is shamefully quiet about what is happening.

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cjc
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Post Number: 3238
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Michael Janay
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Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 1:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought the UN was handling this.

Oh, according to them, its not Genocide.
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cjc
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Post Number: 3240
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 1:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Danforth quit as US ambassador to the UN, and on his way out he ripped that blessed world body for being worthless in dealing with the Sudan.

Janay is right. The UN said it's not genocide, merely killing with ethnic implications (I think the wording was). Kofi ought to know it when he sees it, as he did in Rwanda.
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dave23
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Post Number: 193
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 2:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Robert,

The Righties are right on this one. Both Negroponte and Danforth urged stronger language, which would in turn demand stonger action, from the UN.

Though Bush hasn't used his pulpit to prompt action, either has any other nation or multinational body.
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cjc
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Post Number: 3241
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 2:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe there's no financial reward or oil-for-food contracts for the UN in the Sudan that accounts for their inaction.
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Bill P
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Post Number: 93
Registered: 1-2005


Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 2:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, someone puts up a heartfelt plea for people to notice and do something about a terrible situation and within less that 24 hours it's degenerated into the usual red vs. blue bickering that makes this section of the message board so tedious and pointless.

Is there any organization which is putting out a petition or anything about this? Sometimes you can download letter templates to send to your legislators?

So anyway, here's my contribution to the discussion. Now knock off the nonsense and either do something about this or shut up. There's plenty of other threads where you can beat up your usual political punching bags.

U.S. Senator Jon S. Corzine
http://corzine.senate.gov/contact.cfm
Washington DC 20510
(202) 224-4744
FAX: (202) 228-2197
(TDD/TTY) (202) 2241984

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FAX: (973) 645-0502

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U.S. Senator Frank R. Lautenberg
http://lautenberg.senate.gov/webform.html
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Phone: (202) 224-3224
TTY: (202) 224-2087
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Phone: (973) 639-8700
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Fax: (973) 639-8723


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Bill P
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 1-2005


Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 3:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I should've finished the column before I posted. This site has sample letters to send your Congressman, President etc.

http://www.savedarfur.org/

Haven't read them yet so don't yell at me for content.
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notehead
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Post Number: 2129
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 3:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe there's no oil in the ground there, which accounts for OUR inaction.

(Or, because we don't have the troops to spare, anyway.)
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Bill P
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Username: Mrincredible

Post Number: 95
Registered: 1-2005


Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 4:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Arg.
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cjc
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Username: Cjc

Post Number: 3243
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 4:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The US was pressing for definitive action on the Sudan, and was rebuffed by the UN and it's member tyrants.

The UN kinda finds Congo's refugees hot little numbers. Must not be enough in the Sudan.

But hey -- if the UN says there's no genocide, must be true.
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notehead
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Username: Notehead

Post Number: 2130
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 4:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry, Mr.Incredible, just a reflex.

I was glad to see the US's attempts to pressure the U.N. -- there is no excuse for the U.N.'s denial and inaction.

I don't see the point of bringing that UN Congo scandal into this, though.
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cjc
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Username: Cjc

Post Number: 3245
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 9:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Really? Doesn't the Congo define the entire UN body just as Abu Graib defines the intentions and proclivities of the Bush Administration? And one could say, then, the UN just reopened the Congo under 'new management' (to borrow a Kennedy rhetorically winning flourish).
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notehead
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Post Number: 2133
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did the U.N. sanction sexual abuse?

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