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mplwdian
Citizen
Username: Mplwdian
Post Number: 59
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 5:38 pm: | 
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I have been told that Vic made his second failing attempt in two years to gain the Maplewood Democratic Committee's nomination to run for Township Committee. In fact, I heard he lost the vote to Mayor Profeta by an approximately 3-1 margin. He should really get a clue that he's out of touch with his own party and the majority of the voters and give up already. But I guess with Huemer's cash and not much better to do with his time he figured he'd try again. |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 7855
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 6:13 pm: |
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I don't think this is a surprise to anyone, least of all Vic.
However, Mpl, you bring up an interesting point about finances. Are we going to go back to the bad old days, actually only a couple of years ago, when it cost in the mid five figures to run for the TC? I hope not. |
mplwdian
Citizen
Username: Mplwdian
Post Number: 60
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 6:59 pm: |
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Well David is pretty rich and is desperate to become Mayor. His only hope is that DeLuca gets a spot on the TC and then one of the others teams up with him and DeLuca to name him Mayor. Its a hell of a long shot--first DeLuca would have to beat Fred (which with Fred's record and Vic's negatives will be next to impossible), then either Ken, Kathy or Ian would have to side with David and Vic and I don't think that's at all likely. |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 3246
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 9:12 pm: |
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Vic's out of touch with his party, or the clique that is the Democrats of Maplewood is out of touch with Vic. Where does Vic differ philosophically and vote-wise with the Democratic Party and/or the Democrats of Maplewood? |
Reflective
Citizen
Username: Reflective
Post Number: 812
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 11:19 pm: |
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well mplwdian:
Ken would
Kathy owes Vic
BTW
Ian is running and if Vic beats Ian that sets the stage for a smoke filled back room.
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sk8mom
Citizen
Username: Sk8mom
Post Number: 113
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 10:21 am: |
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I would like to hear from somebody who actually knows how the Maplewood Dem. Comm.'s process works. The story I heard, from several independent sources, was that Fred got the Dem. nomination last time because he had managed to put his people in the block captain positions and they're the ones who vote. And as I recall from the general election, Fred's margin of victory over Vic in the popular vote was quite slim. (whoa! I never realized how this sounds very Al Gore-ish ... [spooky music] ; ) It does make sense to me that the people who run on the regular Dem. line would have a substantial advantage in the general election in this town.
Confirm or deny? Anyone? |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 7860
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 10:39 am: |
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First off, as Lydia was kind enough to point out to me, Vic and Fred never went head to head in the primary. A ticket of Ken Petis and Kathy Leventhal beat the incumbents, Vic and Jerry Ryan. I don't remember the vote count, but I am sure someone does. 
The Profetistas ran an insurgent slate of candidates for District Leader (block captains in your parlance) and gained enough seats on the Dem Committee to give the party endorsement to Ken and Kathy. |
sk8mom
Citizen
Username: Sk8mom
Post Number: 114
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 12:41 pm: |
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Ahh. In my fuzzy, imperfect and overpopulated memory, I was clearly equating Ken and Kathy with Profeta's people (or, as you put it, Profetistas).
So, regarding the original issue of "whether Vic is out of touch with his own party" (in failing to obtain the nomination of the Maplewood regular Dem. Comm.), does "his own party" in this context refer to the "Profetistas"? |
mplwdian
Citizen
Username: Mplwdian
Post Number: 61
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 1:08 pm: |
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sk8mom- Do not forget that the district leaders were elected by the voters in their respective neighborhoods. So that must mean that that Vic is not only out of touch with the people in his own party but with the voters of Maplewood too. That's what really matters.
Reflective- You are dreaming. Kathy is loyal to Fred. Ian is loyal to Fred. Ken is loyal to Fred. They may not all agree all of the time. But that's why we elected them. If you think otherwise, why did Kathy and Ken support Ian Grodman's selection as Vice Mayor? They could have backed David for Vice Mayor this year but that didn't happen. |
bottomline
Citizen
Username: Bottomline
Post Number: 192
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 2:47 pm: |
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Here are the results of the 2002 and 2003 Democratic primary elections for township committee. In each case, two seats were up for election so the top two vote-getters won. (Numbers here are rounded to the nearest ten, and may not include absentee ballots.)
2002:
Profeta - 1790
Grodman - 1550
Leventhal - 1210
Sharif-Drinkard - 1170
2003:
Pettis - 1950
Leventhal - 1860
DeLuca - 1600
Ryan - 1550
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sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 13335
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 7:46 pm: |
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If I might, please allow me to invoke my trademark ownership of a term I coined here on MOL a few years ago to correct the mangled abortion that my main man Bobk keeps typing:
the word for Profeta followers is :
PROFETANISTAS not Profetistas.
Thankey. |
jeffl
Supporter
Username: Jeffl
Post Number: 1029
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 8:46 pm: |
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I'm sorry, I call them Frederalists. That is clearly the better term S. |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 13338
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 8:48 pm: |
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Nah, makes it sound like you've got a speech impediment.
Sorry to hear about Ankiel BTW. That's one of the saddest sports stories ever. I'll never forget that game where he lost it. |
Reflective
Citizen
Username: Reflective
Post Number: 813
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 11:04 pm: |
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Mplwdian
You may be right because every TC meeting starts with the Pledge of Fredallegience. |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 7866
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 5:07 am: |
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Thanks S, I will keep it in mind. |
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