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Andrea Weisbard
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Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 1:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here are some riddles, read the first to yourself, and if you can't get the answer, read it out loud.

How many bricks does it take to finish a building made entirely of brick

It starts with the letter "E" ends in the letter "E" but only holds one letter, what is it?

If Mr. Green live in the green house, and Mr. Brown lives in the brown house, who live in the white house(<<<this is the easiest of them all).

If a rooster lays an egg on the roof of the barn, what side of the roof would the egg roll off of?



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Sgt. Pepper
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Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 1:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Taking a stab at 3 of them:

1. One (the last brick finishes the building).

3. The President.

4. Roosters don't lay eggs.
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Brett
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Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 1:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2. E
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bmpsab
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Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 1:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2. = envelope!
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spw784
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Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 6:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would think # 3 would need to have "white house" capitalized for the answer to be the President. .
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E
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Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 9:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is a new one for those who like math. This is a mathematical proof that .999 (repeating)=1. Is it true? Is it false? If so, why?

x=.9 (repeating)

10x=9.9 (repeating)
10x-x=9
9x=9
x=1

1= .9 (repeating)

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Andrea Weisbard
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Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 11:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

True, .999 repeating = 1 if you round it up.
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E
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 11:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrea,
That is not the answer. The proof shows that nothing is being rounded. The claim is that .999 (repeating) "as-is" is exactly equal to 1.
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Brett
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 11:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes it does, your rounding to 9 in the third step.

10x-x=9x=9*.999999=8.999999
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Duncan
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 11:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

from an MIT Masters in Applied Math (and my lovely wife)

No good because my multiplying .9999 (repeating) by 10 you have to end up with a zero at the end of the repeating which they are ignoring. If that zero is there, it will not work. Try it without the repeating... and you get this..
10x = 9.90
10x - x = 9.90 - .99 = 8.91
9x - 8.91
x - 8.91 / 9 = .99

so unless there is a trick here, Im going with the wife's answer..LOL

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Andrea Weisbard
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 11:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Duncan,
You can't blame a girl for trying
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E
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 12:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brett,
There is no rounding in the third step. I am subtracting an "x" from the left side and .999 (repeating) on the right side. 9.999 (repeating) minus .999 (repeating) equals 9.

Duncan,
Not true about the ending zero if multiplying by 10. You just move the decimal one place to the right. For example, if you multiply Pi by 10, it would be 31.4159...(non repeating, non terminating, no zero at the "end").

There is no trick here. Regular rules of math provide the answer. It is valid, or it is not.
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macsmom
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 1:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

E: There are some arguments or at least discussions) about whether this is true. The info I provided to Duncan was one approach, and in some sense the easy answer.

But you can say that .999 (repeating) is equal to 1. One way of looking at it is that for 2 real numbers to be distinct, you have to be able to identify a number that come between them. What number comes between .999(repeating) and 1? You cannot find one, so they must be equal.

The more mathematical approach is to take .999(repeating) as the sum of an "infinite geometric series of numbers". A "infinite geometric series of numbers" is a pattern of numbers we find by setting a starting point, call it A, determining the next number by multiplying A by some number R.

Then, to find the next number in the pattern, you keep taking the number you get with the multiplication and multipling it again by R (also called the common ratio).

Here, A is .9 and R is .1 .So we get .9, .09, .009, .0009 etc.

The formula for the sum of an infinite geometric series is A / (1 - R) (A is the starting point and R is the multiplier we used).

So A / (1 - R) = .9 / (1 - .1) which equals .9/.9 which equals 1. QED.

On a similar note - do you know the one that proves 1 = 3?
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Brett
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 1:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sucked the fun right out of that one...


Boy that makes me miss math
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Brett
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 1:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I meant that in a nice way
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macsmom
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 1:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually (sadly??), it really did make me miss math!

I used to love teaching this kind of stuff to my students. Sorry if I got too technical on ya...now you know why Duncan posts and not me.
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sac
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 1:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Me too!

I majored in Math, but never used the really esoteric stuff again ... 25 years later, it is very rusty.
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Brett
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 1:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wasn't jokeing. I enjoy math, but never get to do it anymore. Do you know of any books that are less like textbook and more fun? I graduated NJIT so I'm pretty good with math and my Girlfriend is a Chem E from Lehigh. We would enjoy something interesting like that.

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E
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 1:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Macsmom,
You obviously know you had the right answer. It's true.
I don't think I've seen the 1=3 (unless it's a form of the 1=2 "proof"). Please share.
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Duncan
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 3:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dang that wife of mine..Now ask who on MOL I would bunk with.
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macsmom
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 5:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, the 1=3 one is very techie - involves pi and natural logarithms and mostly is hard to type in this forum. How about this one:

let a=1, b=1
a = a
a^2 = ab
a^2 - b^2 = ab - b^2
(a + b)(a - b) = b(a - b)
a + b = b
1 + 1 = 1

Can you find the problem with this "proof"??
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sac
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 8:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

macsmom,

The problem with your proof is that when you divided each side by (a-b), you were dividing by zero.
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PARROT HEAD
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 9:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's one from the Parrot.

The man is afraid to go home because the man in the mask is waiting for him.
Who is the man in the mask?
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buzzsaw
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the catcher
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PARROT HEAD
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 10:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Buzzsaw got it.
The man in the mask is the catcher on a baseball field. Good job
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Phil
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 6:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A man is pushing his car past a hotel when suddenly he realizes he's bankrupt - why?
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dfc
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 7:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

An ocean liner is sailing across the sea and sinks. Every single person drowns. Who servives.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 7:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Phil
Was he playing Monoply?

Speaking of which, anyone interested in playing a game to the end some day?

And...
If the reflection of a clock in a mirror reads 8:45, what is the real time?
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SoOrLady
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 7:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dfc - All the married people?
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Duncan
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 8:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JTA

4:15

now my contribution...


The soup was cold, the salad was wilted, and the fish was overcooked. When the waiter handed Mr. Essen the bill for his meal, Essen wrote on it "102004180" and strode out of the restaurant. Can you figure out what this meant?
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Andrea Weisbard
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Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 9:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A plane crashes on the boarder of the U.S. and Canada, where do the bury survivors?
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SoOrLady
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Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 9:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrea - you don't bury survivors

Duncan - I can't get the beginning - it ends with "for I ate nothing."
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 12:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

duncan
answer to yours is:
I ought to owe nothing for I ate nothing
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SoOrLady
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Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 6:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

not exactly a riddle, but a cool math puzzle all the same:

·         Grab a calculator (you won't be able to do this one in your head)
·         Key in the first three digits of your phone number (NOT the area code)

·         Multiply by 80

·         Add 1

·         Multiply by 250

·         Add the last 4 digits of your phone number

·         Add the last 4 digits of your phone number again

·         Subtract 250

·         Divide by 2

 Do you recognize the answer?
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Carrie Avery
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Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 6:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WOW! That's cool! thanks.
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Phil
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Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 3:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just the Aunt: Yes! And 3:15
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Rastro
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Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 4:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

regarding the clock question...
Actually, it depends where the mirror is. If the mirror isn't perpendicular to the 3 o'clock or 9 o'clock radius, it could be any of several times...

For example, if the mirror is perpendicular to the 12 o'clock radius, it is... 9:45?

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