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Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 5923
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 4:24 pm: | 
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It's not just for character. Truly, I could live without Drug Fa (which is what we call it). Pathmark's prices are just as good or better. But if you haven't been to Tabatchnik's or the bakery, you should try them. Try the hamentashen, would ya!?
Sometimes, appearances are not the most important thing.
If they put in a Trader Joe's in place of Drug Fa, I'd be happy, as long as they kept the other two places, but that's highly unlikely. |
Zoesky1
Citizen
Username: Zoesky1
Post Number: 723
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 4:56 pm: |
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Mark Fuhrman, are you a commercial real estate developer? Just curious, for a variety of reasons.... |
kevin
Supporter
Username: Kevin
Post Number: 434
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 5:09 pm: |
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The Millburn Mall is now owned by the Lightstone Group.
The Mall is 66,615 Sq Ft. They are offering for rent the following:
Unit A06 - 5,800
Unit A07 - 2,913
Unit A08 - 3,000
Unit B13 - 850
(contiguous spaces above can be combined)
Any idea as to which storefronts these are?
I'm a fan of Syd's, Sonny Amsters, and that asian market next to Syd's...I also go to Drug Fair periodically.
Some of the stores in the mall have been there since it was built in the 60s. |
shh
Citizen
Username: Shh
Post Number: 2301
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 5:31 pm: |
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Kevin, the Asian market is no more, last I went in there they were just selling flowers.
I would love any supermarket there! Trader Joe's would be great, but so would any other new, clean store.
I don't mind Drug Fair but I don't often have reason to go there. |
Soda
Supporter
Username: Soda
Post Number: 2714
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 6:11 pm: |
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Living in S.O., the only reasons we visit Millburn Mall are Syds's, Sonny Amster's, and Tabatchnik's. If they're still there after the improvements are made, we'll still patronize the place. If not, it'd take some other truly unique restaurant or merchant to get me to shlepp over there.
-s.
BTW: (A) Those who think that the place isn't safe after dark will undoubtedly still avoid it once it's gussied up, since it'll still be in exactly the same location, and
(2) Those of you anxious for a Panera, Starbucks, or other cookiecutter joint are half of the pathetic and tragic equation for the ongoing plastification of America. The other half of the equation are souless, quick-buck-hungry property owners, space speculators, and food conglomerates preying on the public's sheeplike lack of discrimination or imagination; coupled with our evident loss of both historical sense of place and appreciation for independent effort, this equation assures more Starbucks and Panera's, and fewer Sonny Amsters and Tabatchniks. As has been said before, be careful what you wish for. |
Zoesky1
Citizen
Username: Zoesky1
Post Number: 724
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 6:43 pm: |
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Soda, if I was part of the "pathetic and tragic equation for the ongoing plastification of America," why would I live here? If that were the case I would live in a McMansion in Arizona or somewhere at about half the price I paid for my house here... I just prefer cleaner, well-run, well-managed stores over junky 40-year-old places, and so I happen to like Starbucks...so do about 100 million other people, many of whom live in towns such as Princeton, Ridgewood, Westfield, Millburn, South Orange, etc -- hardly "plastic" places. I also happen to like the roast beef sandwiches from Panera...and my point was that if the proprietors of the Millburn Mall want to boost traffic, perhaps they might consider bringing the facility up to date, which includes bringing in new tenants with broader appeal. Who says Tabatchniks can't co-exist with a mainstream place? |
Soda
Supporter
Username: Soda
Post Number: 2715
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 9:59 pm: |
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Zoesky1: Don't get me wrong: I've nothing against cleanliness, weatherproof buildings, or smooth asphalt. And Panera's Sierra Turkey Sandwiches are okay, as is a Starbucks Hot Chocolate.
But in taking my last post so personally, you beg the question -- which has far less to do with where the "100 million" of you (my guess is more like 200 million, but why split hairs) live, or how much you paid for your home -- than it does with how you think (or, more properly, do NOT think). Denying that your demand for "cleaner, well-run, well-managed stores over junky 40-year-old places" doesn't unwittingly contribute to the demise of many irreplaceable American retailers, eateries, etc., is not only myopic, but sad.
-s.
BTW: I'm taking a guess here: You're either under 40, or a Republican, or both, right??? |
Joan Auer
Citizen
Username: Joan
Post Number: 130
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 8:16 am: |
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I love Tabatchniks, the bakery, and Syds. Tabatchniks has the best pastrami sandwiches I've had in years and the bakery has absolutely incredible rye bread. My kids love the cookies there. They also love going to Syds and sitting up at the counter and getting and hot dog and fries. I even like going to the Drug Fair, which reminds me of the five and dime type place that I used to shop at in Brooklyn. It would be a terrible shame if those places were lost.
How about the Springfield Avenue Association recruiting Tabatchniks, the bakery, Drug Fair, and Syds for Springfield Avenue? They'd make a mini old-fashioned downtown all by themselves and would give lots of people a reason to go over to Springfield Avenue. |
Mark Fuhrman
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 1450
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 6:14 pm: |
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Zoesky: I have worked for commercial developers in the past, but do not do so at the present time (although I have friends in the biz who I talk to alot). |
Zoesky1
Citizen
Username: Zoesky1
Post Number: 725
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 10:36 am: |
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MF: oh, just curious. i am a reporter who covers the commercial real estate industry, and my significant other is a commercial real estate attorney, so I was just wondering...you sound like you know what you're talking about. |
weekends
Citizen
Username: Weekends
Post Number: 58
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 11:42 am: |
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Tom, while the baked goods aren't bad at the Millburn Mall bakery, I have to be in the right mood before I'll dare to set foot in that shop. Displays of breathtaking rudeness, from both sides of the counter, are on full display along side the bread. It's a weird place. |
Mark Fuhrman
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 1452
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 1:49 pm: |
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Zoesky: I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express. First time I have ever been accused of sounding like I know what I am talking about. |
Lucky13
Citizen
Username: Lucky13
Post Number: 30
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 1:55 pm: |
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Anyone-
How would Starbuck's hurt MM? i really dislike having to go to SO or Millburn for my coffee. MM is in a fantastic location and needs an anchor tenant who will advertise and bring in destination shoppers- Starbuck's does so without strongly competing with an existing tenant.
Of course, Trader Joe's trumps everyone, including Starbuck's, in this area. |
sac
Supporter
Username: Sac
Post Number: 1945
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 3:42 pm: |
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I'd love MM with both a Starbucks and Trader Joe's! (even tho I don't drink coffee) |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 7960
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 3:54 pm: |
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Maybe there will be a Starbucks at the new mall where the driving range is.  Trader Joe operates with very high sales per square foot to support their pricing. The last thing they are going to do is open a store that might canabilize sales from their exisiting locations, although it is nice to dream.
I do wish, however, that Drug Fair would fix the burned out letter on their sign since they are the anchor tenant at Millburn Mall. |
sac
Supporter
Username: Sac
Post Number: 1946
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 4:17 pm: |
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We really aren't very close to their nearest locations (Florham Park and Westfield) so I have trouble understanding that a location in or near Maplewood would canabalize sales from those sites.
I would visit a TJ's in this area MUCH more often than I go to those more distant locations. |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 7966
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 7:52 am: |
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Sac, ain't goin' to happen. They look at the demographics in maybe a fifteen mile radius and we don't have 'em.  |
critter
Citizen
Username: Critter
Post Number: 56
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 8:57 am: |
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There's no need to travel to South Orange and Millburn for coffee. Net Nomads on Springfield at Prospect has the best coffee in the area, and they're nice people. |
cmontyburns
Citizen
Username: Cmontyburns
Post Number: 763
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 9:03 am: |
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Critter: I don't shop on Springfield Avenue. Too many gangs. Plus, did you know that if you walk far enough, you're not even in Maplewood anymore? Makes my blood run cold just to type it. |
joecool
Citizen
Username: Joecool
Post Number: 149
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 11:14 am: |
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Cmonty - are you for real? |
Lucky13
Citizen
Username: Lucky13
Post Number: 35
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 11:51 am: |
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critter- i agree about net nomads for drinking a cup. it's a nice place. i use starbuck's for beans for everyday use.
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SoOrLady
Citizen
Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 1907
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 12:12 pm: |
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cmonty's acerbic tongue-in-cheek humor is lost on some.... helps if you read his posts with Mr. Burns voice in your head. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 5947
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 12:39 pm: |
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I buy coffee beans from Zabars., http://www.zabars.com. $5.98 a pound can't be beat! It measures up to anyone's standards, too. They sell 10,000 of coffee per week RETAIL, just from their one store, and I believe it is mostly from people who walk in. |
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