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tjohn
Citizen
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2949
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 7:30 am: | 
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Star Ledger. Front page. The NJ Audobon Society is calling for deer hunting. Deer, in the manner of locusts, are consuming the forest understory. This is destroying songbird habitat and leading to alarming declines in songbird populations.
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slipknot
Citizen
Username: Zotts
Post Number: 25
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 10:10 am: |
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Tom, were you not advocating the killing of skunks a few month's back? |
tjohn
Citizen
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2950
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 10:21 am: |
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Absolutely not. I have only advocated:
1. Management of the deer population through hunting in order to protect the forest understory AND
2. Private ownership of mountain lions in order to end canine oppression of house cats. |
slipknot
Citizen
Username: Zotts
Post Number: 27
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 10:52 am: |
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I shudder to imagine you stalking a deer through maplewood. Will you be wearing an orange vest and one of those hats? |
weekends
Citizen
Username: Weekends
Post Number: 56
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 12:09 pm: |
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The birdwatcher in me was encouraged by that article. Parks like South Mountain Reservation look like some sort of weird desert; the understory habitat is completely missing.
I hope that the Audubon endorsement of deer hunting leads to action. |
Nohero
Citizen
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 4409
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 12:26 pm: |
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So, the bird society proposes deer hunting. Is there a deer society, to propose bird hunting?
This could be like the old Bugs Bunny Cartoon.
"It's duck season!"
"It's rabbit season!"
"Duck season!"
"Rabbit season!"
 "It's duck season!""It's rabbit season!""Duck season!""Rabbit season!"
bd01.wav (50.8 k) |
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tjohn
Citizen
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2952
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 1:18 pm: |
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Slipknot,
I hunt with a catamount. It is a shoulder-fired mountain lion launcher. I originally invented it for use on neighboring dogs, several of which seem to be PCP users, but found that it works well on deer within a 100 meter range.
For backyard hunting, I have it on good authority that soccer goals are very effective. |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 7909
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 1:40 pm: |
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Kill them all, kill them all I say and throw their rotting carcases into the river!!
Tjohn, have you thought about crossing your kitty with a bobcat? I imagine the resulting litter would be able to hold its own with the neighborhood dogs. |
tjohn
Citizen
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2953
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 1:44 pm: |
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Tried that, Bobk. If you use housecats or bobcats in a catamount launcher, you need the MIRV (multiple independently targeted reentry vehicles) opton so that you can launch a couple of dozens housecats with one shot. This is about as effective as one mountain lion. |
ML
Supporter
Username: Ml1
Post Number: 2345
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 2:27 pm: |
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when we've got deer walking down Maplewoood Ave, I think we've got an overpopulation problem. |
ffof
Citizen
Username: Ffof
Post Number: 3446
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 2:34 pm: |
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I've seen them eating the halloween cornstalks in the planters by the train station, so yes, there is an overpopulation problem. Unfortunately I didn't have a mountain lion with me, only my worthless canine (all pumped up on PCP he was looking for little kitties not antlered rodents. What to do?)
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Bill P
Citizen
Username: Mrincredible
Post Number: 116
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 2:45 pm: |
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I think Art should start offering venison sausage for breakfast with the pancakes.
If they make it over into the Midland Park section I'll start advocating a hunt. |
Dave
Citizen
Username: Dave
Post Number: 5595
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 2:53 pm: |
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Audobon shot and ate most of his subjects. |
themp
Supporter
Username: Themp
Post Number: 1562
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 4:26 pm: |
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Ever read Robert Penn Warren's long poem called Audubon: a Vision?
Hold your breath, let the trigger-squeeze be slow and steady.
The quarry lifts, in the halo of gold leaves, its noble head.
This is not a dimension of Time.
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Lydia
Supporter
Username: Lydial
Post Number: 984
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 5:14 pm: |
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ML -
I've seen deer twice on Maplewood Avenue in the village - early morning around dusk.
TJohn - re: ammo for catamount - I think I can help you
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Cathy
Supporter
Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 813
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 5:22 pm: |
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tjohn -
My smart kid has been tinkering with genetic engineering for a science project at school, and has successfully re-created a Smilodon.
Interested? |
Lizziecat
Citizen
Username: Lizziecat
Post Number: 545
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 5:42 pm: |
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I have to laugh when I see lawns with plastic deer on them. Last night I had a whole damn herd of six deer eating my yews, right next to my front door! I ran out to chase them away and they weren't even scared! They sneered at me, I swear they did, and ambled over to my neighbors' house. I would shoot them myself if it were allowed. |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 7914
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 5:49 pm: |
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Bill, I don't know about Midland Park, but a few years ago their was a herd of deer that lived over on Elmwood by Winchester Gardens. Apparently there is enough cover in the complex and across the street where the yards are very deep so that they felt comfortable.
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themp
Supporter
Username: Themp
Post Number: 1563
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 5:53 pm: |
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I hate the damn deer. I say, hunt em down.
I saw some guy feeding them from his car up in the reservation last weekend. He was dumping old bread for them. |
Meandtheboys
Citizen
Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 365
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 5:56 pm: |
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IMHO live and let live. They were here first, after all.
Then again, they're not eating my yews. Nor am I completely sure what a yew is. |
ML
Supporter
Username: Ml1
Post Number: 2346
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 7:31 pm: |
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Lydia,
I wasn't joking. The deer have been coming down to Maplewood Ave. with regularity since at least last summer. I'm going to let my attack cat out after them if they keep it up. |
lumpyhead
Citizen
Username: Lumpyhead
Post Number: 1188
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 8:39 pm: |
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One poster, who is currently banned, must be freaking out about right now. |
shestheone
Citizen
Username: Shestheone
Post Number: 123
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 8:42 pm: |
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????? |
lumpyhead
Citizen
Username: Lumpyhead
Post Number: 1189
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 8:48 pm: |
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No one important, just some deer loving looney. |
Nohero
Citizen
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 4410
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 10:05 pm: |
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Nice job, chief. Picking on somebody when she can't respond to you. |
DeborahG
Citizen
Username: Deborahg
Post Number: 1241
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 10:44 pm: |
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When we first moved to Maplewood from Brooklyn, I couldn't get over the wildlife, the greenery, the beauty of it all. So I used to take the kids up to the reservation fairly often "to see the deer." After we'd been here about a month, my mother came to visit. After showing her the town, I proposed a visit to the reservation.
My daughter, then age 5, burst into tears. "I don't want to see any more deer!" she wailed.
Now when I told her that my old building in Manhattan had rats in the basement -- THAT was cool. She really wanted to go and see those rats.
But you know what I like? The wild turkeys. I was walking up the hill from Claremont Avenue a couple of months ago, and about seven of those suckers crossed the path on the way to the yard of the woman who puts bagels out for all the wildlife. They were huge! |
ML
Supporter
Username: Ml1
Post Number: 2351
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 11:31 pm: |
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the first day we were in our current house, a big ol' possum died in our driveway, and I had to figure out how to dispose of him.
that was more wildlife than I was looking forward to. |
lumpyhead
Citizen
Username: Lumpyhead
Post Number: 1191
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 6:21 am: |
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Thank Nohero. I am thankful for small things in life. Posters get banned for good reason. |
tjohn
Citizen
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2955
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 7:12 am: |
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ML,
At the Newark Museum a couple of weeks ago, there was a possum that had been raised from a baby. It couldn't be returned to the wild because it was blind in one eye. Anyway, one of the staff was holding it and it was licking his arm just like a cat might. It seems that the only downside of possums as pets is a certain body odor intended to support their playing dead tactic. |
Wilkanoid
Citizen
Username: Cseleosida
Post Number: 330
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 8:47 am: |
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Dave
Citizen
Username: Dave
Post Number: 5597
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 8:53 am: |
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quote:No one important, just some deer loving looney.
is a clear example of a personal attack |
Meandtheboys
Citizen
Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 371
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 10:35 am: |
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I thought so too, but far be it from me to put in my two cents on that one. Was hoping the moderator would follow up. Thanks D. |
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