| Author | Message | ||
     The Libertarian Citizen Username: Local_1_crew Post Number: 554 Registered: 3-2004  |
and i will say it 1 more time, THERE IS NO MEDICAL PROOF THAT SECOND HAND SMOKE CAUSES DEATH!!! none! learn to do some research and expand your minds beyond the propoganda that is produced by partisan organizations. Proof has never before stopped a libertarian from spreading propaganda... i am surprised that you leave the round table long enough to post | ||
| The Libertarian Citizen Username: Local_1_crew Post Number: 555 Registered: 3-2004 |
To send a letter in support of smokefree New Jersey while you are at it send a letter of support here as well.: http://www.angelfire.com/home/government/wavs.html | ||
| The Libertarian Citizen Username: Local_1_crew Post Number: 556 Registered: 3-2004 |
Leventhal's decision to back away from a Maplewood ban was due in part to comments from local bar owners. Saint James Gate owner John Meade said a local smoking ban would negatively impact 30 to 40 percent of his business. sweet! more space for nail salons! | ||
| jamie Moderator Username: Jamie Post Number: 828 Registered: 6-2001  |
AND I'M SURE THE TOBBAOCO INDUSTRY IS SPREADING ZERO PROPAGANDA ABOUT SECOND HAND SMOKE  | ||
| SO Refugee Citizen Username: So_refugee Post Number: 46 Registered: 2-2005  |
Back from the round table. There is no time limit on truth, but science and technology evolves/improves and leads to new truth. | ||
| The Libertarian Citizen Username: Local_1_crew Post Number: 560 Registered: 3-2004 |
i agree. there is scientific proof for both sides. you have chosen your truth. still doesnt mean its The Truth. AND I'M SURE THE TOBBAOCO INDUSTRY IS SPREADING ZERO PROPAGANDA ABOUT SEND HAND SMOKE i am sure that they do. the point is to learn that both sides deliver copious amounts of propaganda and slanted results. | ||
| mickey Citizen Username: Mickey Post Number: 246 Registered: 10-2001 |
the gate didn't want a local ban, for fear the smokers would go to other nearby towns. but a state-wide ban elimates that problem. the gate owner would be in favor of a state-wide ban. libertarian, me thinks thou dost protest too much. | ||
| SO Refugee Citizen Username: So_refugee Post Number: 49 Registered: 2-2005 |
i agree. there is scientific proof for both sides. you have chosen your truth. still doesnt mean its The Truth. Is your side? | ||
| The Libertarian Citizen Username: Local_1_crew Post Number: 573 Registered: 3-2004 |
libertarian, me thinks thou dost protest too much. no such thing as too much protest. i will forever protest facsictic legislation meant to deprive the individual of personal freedoms.some people think some books are dangerous and unhealthy and try to get them banned. some think scientific ideas are dangerous and should be banned.are regardless of the differences you see they all still an attempt to limit personal freedom through draconian law. on a side note, you used the quote in an improper context based upon the original intent of the quote. | ||
| Lydia Supporter Username: Lydial Post Number: 982 Registered: 5-2001 |
"Libertarian"
So I take this to mean you'll fight for individuals' rights to breathe air uncontaminated w/ by-products from burning paper and vegetable matter? | ||
| D. Citizen Username: Dave Post Number: 5575 Registered: 4-1998  |
Paper and vegetable matter would be fine. Most of us object to sharing in the inhalation of this:  | ||
| SO Refugee Citizen Username: So_refugee Post Number: 52 Registered: 2-2005 |
Easy on the potshots... Remember, cigarettes don't kill people....oh, I'm sorry, I forgot they do. | ||
| KingofNJ Citizen Username: Kingofnj Post Number: 16 Registered: 2-2004 |
Why are some of you posting links and articles about how smoking and second hand smoke is bad for you? (Jamie) Yeah, we know that already. Unfortunately, that's not what we're discussing. Since you know that smoke is bad for you WHY DON'T YOU JUST STAY OUT OF THE BARS AND LET US BE!!!! | ||
| The Libertarian Citizen Username: Local_1_crew Post Number: 583 Registered: 3-2004 |
or go to a bar where the OWNER of the business has decided that he wants HIS business to be smoke free and cater to that clientelle rather than force him through the tyranny of the majority | ||
| jamie Moderator Username: Jamie Post Number: 829 Registered: 6-2001 |
I was at the pub last night - it was pretty smoke free when I got there and very enjoyable - nice band playing too. But after 11:30 EVERYONE seemed to light up, ugh disgusting - unhealthy. We will have our answer to this problem on a state level tomorrow!!!!! http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2004/Bills/S2000/1926_I1.PDF | ||
| SO Refugee Citizen Username: So_refugee Post Number: 58 Registered: 2-2005 |
Mmmmmm....cadmium. | ||
| The Libertarian Citizen Username: Local_1_crew Post Number: 587 Registered: 3-2004 |
I was at the pub last night - it was pretty smoke free when I got there and very enjoyable - nice band playing too. But after 11:30 EVERYONE seemed to light up, ugh disgusting - unhealthy obviously the owner of the business feels that your personal concerns are not important to the running of his business. how nice of you to decide to force him to cater to your personal needs. | ||
| jamie Moderator Username: Jamie Post Number: 830 Registered: 6-2001 |
Actually - he commented how pleasurable it was when he was in smokefree NYC the previous night. I'm sure he'll be happy when the state passes the law. In the meantime - enjoy the hydrogen cyanide.  | ||
| SO Refugee Citizen Username: So_refugee Post Number: 62 Registered: 2-2005 |
Rocket fuel...DAMN. Should this also be posted in the GREAT HALL OF RECIPES? | ||
| The Libertarian Citizen Username: Local_1_crew Post Number: 588 Registered: 3-2004 |
SO, pointless, redundant, and pedantic. do you ever have anything to add or is it always these little bon mots while piggy backing on others points? just curious. |
