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LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 2337
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 2:15 pm: | 
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5567661291 |
wendy
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Username: Wendy
Post Number: 615
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 2:25 pm: |
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I just forwarded the link to several people. Thanks. |
LibraryLady(ncjanow)
Supporter
Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 2338
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 4:14 pm: |
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All gone.Boy they took that one down fast. |
Lydia
Supporter
Username: Lydial
Post Number: 1019
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 4:52 pm: |
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What was it? |
sac
Supporter
Username: Sac
Post Number: 1949
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 5:11 pm: |
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It was "Social Security for sale to the highest bidder"! There were a lot of good zingers in it, but I can't remember them all. I guess I should have tried to save (or at least print) a copy. |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 3319
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 7:47 pm: |
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Democrats are going to win the bid, and they're going to use your money to buy it and you won't get your investment back. But that's OK, because they'll get your neighbors to pay for you. |
LibraryLady(ncjanow)
Supporter
Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 2339
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 9:45 pm: |
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Here's another link to the story..Look at the removed ebay page
http://billionairesforbush.com/index.php |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 3143
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 10:42 pm: |
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oh cjc get over your ideological fixation already. Live long enough you'll get many times your money back. Die early and your spouse gets it. Who ever said it was an investment anyway? It's insurance.
And nobody has to eat dog food. I'm not really sure why you'd be so much happier if people did, but don't get me wrong I really don't care to know. |
Meandtheboys
Citizen
Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 436
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 7:10 am: |
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Ooooh. I like that. How long was it up before EBay realized it and took it down? |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 3324
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 9:27 am: |
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tom -- it's a welfare program. You can't pass along anything. If you live real long you'll be forcing others to pay for you. It's not insurance at all.
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L'Angelo Misterioso
Citizen
Username: Misterioso
Post Number: 51
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 10:29 am: |
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Our mistake, CJC. The government has no interest at all in seeing to it that its elderly and disabled citizens are not totally destitute.
Say, this Soylent Green sure is tasty! |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 3331
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 2:02 pm: |
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Social Security trust fund will exhaust its assets in 2041 instead of 2042 as forecast last year, while the Medicare trust fund will be depleted in 2020, rather than 2019, the funds' trustees said on Wednesday.
In addition, the trustees projected Social Security outlays would outstrip tax income in 2017 instead of 2018 as previously forecast.
When the program's trust fund is exhausted in 2041, tax revenues would still be sufficient to fund 74 percent of the benefits, the trustees said in their annual report on the finances of the programs.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen
Username: Casey
Post Number: 1128
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 2:42 pm: |
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2041 instead of 2042?
well that changes everything! |
Sgt. Pepper
Citizen
Username: Jjkatz
Post Number: 780
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 3:13 pm: |
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The entire Bush budget is based on a philosophy of "spend now, let someone's grandchildren worry about who's going to pay for it." And the Iraq war isn't even IN the budget!
Talk about irresponsible. If I handled my finances that way I'd be bankrupt or in jail. I just hope that the damage isn't irreversible by 2008. |
Bdelloid Rotifer
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 1459
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 3:42 pm: |
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tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 3144
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 4:46 pm: |
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quote:If you live real long you'll be forcing others to pay for you.
Just like there's some 94-year-old guy right now that I'M paying for. You don't hear me whining because the big bad government's deducting a few bucks more from my paycheck than I'm likely to get back.
The more I hear of this the more I'm convinced that the only principle it's based on is greed. |
wendy
Supporter
Username: Wendy
Post Number: 619
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 4:59 pm: |
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Tom, greed is good. Didn't you know that? |
Carrie Avery
Citizen
Username: Carrie33
Post Number: 242
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 5:21 pm: |
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With that premise in mind, you don't mind paying over $2.00 a gallon for gas? It seems like "greed" to me. |
LibraryLady(ncjanow)
Supporter
Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 2342
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 5:29 pm: |
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Gas prices in Europe are approaching $7.00 a gallon. Two bucks seems real reasonable! |
mjc
Citizen
Username: Mjc
Post Number: 396
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 5:31 pm: |
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cjc, re: your post of March 23, 2005 - 9:27 - Isn't that actually the essence of insurance, that a large group of people pay in so that those who need a payout (based on disability, death or long life) will get it? If not, what's your definition of insurance?
The only difference I see is that we're all (almost all) required to buy this insurance; but that's not so different from having mandatory car insurance, workers' comp for employers, etc., is it? |
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