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Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 7986
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 2:51 pm: | 
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Just saw a blurp on Captivate.com. It looks like the family has decided to appeal to the full court in Atlanta and not directly to the Supreme Court. |
Guy
Supporter
Username: Vandalay
Post Number: 631
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 2:57 pm: |
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Pippi, it will be over soon. |
redY67
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 801
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 3:03 pm: |
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I feel for the family, but it is time to let go. Imagine if they somehow win the appeal, put the tube back in, and it keeps being fought in the courts. They need to let go. |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 823
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 4:19 pm: |
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&e=1&u=/nm/20050323/pl_nm/rig hts_schiavo_dc
Appeals Court Rebuffs Schiavo Parents
A U.S. appeals court on Wednesday denied a request for a full bench hearing on a bid by the parents of brain-damaged Florida woman Terri Schiavo to have her feeding tube restored, a court official said.
The judges of the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals (news - web sites) in Atlanta voted 10 to 2 not to grant a full hearing, the official said.
The decision closed another legal avenue to the parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, who have fought their son-in-law for seven years in the courts to prolong their daughter's life. |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 828
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 11:26 am: |
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The U.S. Supreme Court turned down Terri Schiavo's parents Thursday, declining to intervene to keep the brain-damaged woman alive, but their supporters pressed a last-ditch effort in Florida courts.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050324/ap_on_re_us/brain_damaged_w oman_95 |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 835
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 12:59 pm: |
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Schiavo not likely to experience a painful death, neurologists say
http://www.southorangevillage.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi?tpc=26018&post=357030#POST357 030 |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 3338
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 1:04 pm: |
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Use the same thing on death row then. |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 836
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 1:12 pm: |
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Why? I'd think you'd want murderers to suffer their deaths. Otherwise, we could just use morphine overdoses... |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 3340
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 1:40 pm: |
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I believe the courts would find starvation 'cruel and unusual punishment.' But what do they know? |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 766
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 1:42 pm: |
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Guy-
They tried to move Sun. None of the hospital's contacted would take him. Think there were 40 or so. Something to note about Sun. He was not PVS. He was not in a coma. So in esence, the lifesupport was removed from a living baby.
With Terri -How many Court processess should they have? Why wasn't Sun given the same? Where do we or don't we draw the line?
I believe the right decision was made with Sun and in Terri's case. It's a shame her parents keep fighting. |
redY67
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 823
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 1:55 pm: |
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Just the Aunt I agree with you it is a shame that her parents keep fighting, but don't you think you would do the same if it was your loved one and you were fighting for what your truley believed? |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 5995
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 2:35 pm: |
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cjc, the term "cruel and unusual punishment" refers to the government's treatment of people, and I believe it refers to methods of punishment. So I believe you are using it out of context. |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 837
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 4:05 pm: |
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cjc,
The experts, people who know something about this, are saying she will not feel pain this way. On the other hand, a concious person with higher brain function being deprived of food and water is cruel, yes. |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 773
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 7:14 pm: |
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red
In this situation? No I would not continue to fight for what *I* believed in. I would do what Michael is doing and fight them every step of the way for what Terri wanted... |
Debby
Citizen
Username: Debby
Post Number: 1742
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 9:51 am: |
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You know who I feel the sorriest for? The other patients and families at the Pinellas Park Hospice. These poor people have gone somewhere to die in peace and comfort and dignity, and it is a media circus with people chanting and singing 24 hours a day. Bright lights and TV cameras and vans everywhere.
My grandmother died in hospice, and fortunately had a very positive experience that was comfortable for her and a good memory for us. But it was still very emotional to anticipate and experience the death of a loved one - I cannot imagine the stress of making end of life decisions with people holding up banners about murder. |
redY67
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 837
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 9:55 am: |
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Just The Aunt you are correct, I worded that poorley. I think that the parents truely believe that their daughter did not make the wish for a DNR. That is why they are fighting so hard, so in essence they are fighting for the patient. |
tjohn
Citizen
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2984
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 10:41 am: |
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Red,
Do you really think so? I could easily imagine being in their situation and just not quite being able to accept the reality of Terri's brain damage. |
redY67
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 845
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 11:43 am: |
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tjohn, thankfully I have never been in that situation. I don't agree with the parent's decision to try and keep Terri alive. All I can say is that if I am ever in that situation, I believe I would fight tooth and nail to do what my child/mother/father whomever desired.
Currently my father was diagnosed with a horrible disease that will slowly take him to his death. I know he does not want to be put on life support of any kind. If someone tried to interfere with his wishes, I would do everything in my power not to let them.
I think absolutely the parents are having a hard time letting go, and realizing the severity of her brain damage, but I also believe they are fighting for what they think Terri wants. |
Pippi
Supporter
Username: Pippi
Post Number: 728
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 12:49 pm: |
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Redy - I am sorry to hear about your dad...I hope that when the time comes, it is not too horrible. And I hope that you are allowed to honor his wishes. |
redY67
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 851
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 1:35 pm: |
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Thanks for your thoughts Pippi.... |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 803
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 2:50 am: |
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red-
I'm sorry to hear about you dad. Please, as hard as it might be, ask him to put his wishes in writing. In addition, maybe even appoint you as the one to make decisions for him if he can't.
I think you are right about Terri's parents. But something bothers me about their insistance Terri telling Michael and some others she wouldn't want to live in the condition she's is in being heresaye.
While they insist what he is saying is heresaye, Bob and Mary have insisted Terri told people she wanted to divorce Michael. Funny they don't consider this as heresaye.
The whole thing is so sad. And it's going to get uglier when Terri finally does die. |
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