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Mr. Reingold
Citizen Username: Noglider
Post Number: 335 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 11:07 am: |    |
face, you might be right, but maybe I'm not as young, naive or inexperienced as you think. I'm 42. I have seen some people become conservative as they grew older, but I've also seen plenty of people's leanings stay the same over a long period of time, and they're still fairly socialist in their 70's and 80's now. Tom Reingold
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woodstock
Citizen Username: Woodstock
Post Number: 275 Registered: 9-2002

| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 4:07 pm: |    |
Mr. Moody, I'm confused as to why you are owed "a little courtesy" simply because you live in Maplewood. Does that mean it's ok to insult people from South Orange? Do Maplewoodians get special treatment here? Somehow, I think we're being trolled... I can't imagine anyone who has ever participated in an online community of any sort could have such high expectations of the forum and be so genuinely pompous. BTW Mr. Moody (see how we treat you with respect by not calling you Chuck or Charlie?), you wouldn't happen to be a ham radio operator, would you? Waiting For The Electrician, Or Someone Like Him |
   
Dave Ross
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 4977 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 4:23 pm: |    |
Mr Moody was checked out. I didn't want to keep him tied up with pint-sized concerns like this board. After all, he's a bery busy man with many new usernames to create. He seemed a bit seedy, actualy, but he's probably a big softy inside. Give him time to ripen. |
   
woodstock
Citizen Username: Woodstock
Post Number: 276 Registered: 9-2002

| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 4:26 pm: |    |
ROFL. The strawman lives. And now he's fishing... Waiting For The Electrician, Or Someone Like Him |
   
Iaowks Reingold
Citizen Username: Noglider
Post Number: 342 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 4:27 pm: |    |
I don't think it's strawberry. There are similarities, but there are differences, too. Tom Reingold
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woodstock
Citizen Username: Woodstock
Post Number: 277 Registered: 9-2002

| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 4:35 pm: |    |
I was assuming Dave had inside knowledge of Chuckles' identity. Either way, he was definitely a caricature. Waiting For The Electrician, Or Someone Like Him |
   
mem
Citizen Username: Mem
Post Number: 1846 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 4:36 pm: |    |
I think Mr. Moody is S!!!!! He sounds an awful lot like that crankpot Costanza. Whatever happened to that guy? |
   
Dave Ross
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 4978 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 4:49 pm: |    |
Actually, it's guessing on my part, too. Apart from the obvious distemper, super-hero Bush support, personal attacks and mysterious appearance during the Straw's ban period, there are some grammatical quirks that stick out (and no, I won't give them away) (hee hee hee). Where is Costanza? Or for that matter, his former boss? |
   
1-2many
Citizen Username: Wbg69
Post Number: 190 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 4:53 pm: |    |
Dave, you slay me! what Mr. Moody seems to need is a dang ole job! back to the topic, I hate Bush too! but think it's a huge mistake to underestimate him or more importantly, his financial backers and handlers. someone pretty crafty is getting pretty right-wing agendas advanced under the cloak of so-called patriotism and an "aw shucks, lil ole me" routine. |
   
Arnomation
Citizen Username: Arnomation
Post Number: 25 Registered: 7-2003

| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 7:04 pm: |    |
Bummer, man!!! I can't believe he checked out. And he was so smart too.... Now, who's going to tell me what the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow carrying a coconut is??? M ________________ Michael Arnold arnomation@verizon.net |
   
algebra2
Citizen Username: Algebra2
Post Number: 1129 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 7:40 pm: |    |
I've just hung up with the Strawman. He swears he's not Charles, and even went as far as to call the guy a nerd. As far as multiple posts go, under multiple names Straw once again denies the allegations. He says his decision to sign off came after he received inexcusable hate mail via MOL. Now, instead of running he wants to return to fight the fight, but can't since Dave for some reason suspended his account. Just like any proud American he has the right to change his mind you know. Dave, unsuspend Strawberry. He left on his own, and if he wants back, he's earned it. All in favor say it loud, say it clear...say we want Straw! As Straw would say, Thank You. |
   
Dave Ross
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 4980 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 7:53 pm: |    |
I saved his last two posts, if you're interested why he's been banned. In one he calls some of his neighbors "fags". In another deleted item he personally attacks another neighbor, who hasn't been posting in months and notehead. Insite followed Stawberry's post with a similar post, which is why you don't see Insite posting these days. Now, perhaps the argument will be made that "well, they were just joking. They don't really mean it." But that's not good enough. That kind of speech can create an atmosphere where harsher things than words happen. |
   
duncanrogers
Citizen Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 650 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 8:01 pm: |    |
algebra.. though not directed at me necessarily many of Straw's posts could pass as inexcusable hate mail too. So who benefits? No one. Once again..this is a Ross family business and if you dont want to play by the house rules you will be asked to leave. |
   
JJC
Citizen Username: Mercury
Post Number: 81 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 8:18 pm: |    |
I agree - 1/2 of what you need to do here is listen to others and consider other viewpoints. This is a great forum. Anyone who cannot do that or discourages others from doing that (directly or indirectly) diminishes the experience for everyone... |
   
anon
Citizen Username: Anon
Post Number: 746 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 - 8:49 pm: |    |
face and Mr. Rheingold: I don't know face's age, but I am somewaht older than Mr. Rheingold. As I get older I see how corporate america treats some of my contemporaries who despite loyal service for over twenty years are suddenly without a job. As the minor ailments of aging creep up on me I see the cost of prescription drugs and wonder how those who are much older than me are supposed to survive. I see the children and grandchildren of men sent off to a War that was never really explained sent off to a new War with questionable justification. This does not make me more "conservative". |
   
algebra2
Citizen Username: Algebra2
Post Number: 1130 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, August 7, 2003 - 9:41 am: |    |
Dave -- I am certain Strawberry never called anyone a "fag". You must be turning his words around. |
   
Dave Ross
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 4983 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, August 7, 2003 - 9:54 am: |    |
Nope. The backup tape (witnessed and notarized) says: "At least no one called you a fag" in response to Maplewoody complaining of being called something else. You can argue in Clintonesque fashion that that's not the same thing, but it is (however you define "is" of course). However, I like the idea of making this into a mini-series set in 1970s Moscow. Really good idea by Strawberry. I'm wondering if it should be a musical. Received the rough draft this morning. Needs a few revisions. I'm going to leave casting to The Oracle of MOL. |
   
algebra2
Citizen Username: Algebra2
Post Number: 1131 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, August 7, 2003 - 10:08 am: |    |
How does that: "At least no one called you a fag" equal calling someone a "fag"? |
   
mem
Citizen Username: Mem
Post Number: 1852 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, August 7, 2003 - 10:32 am: |    |
Yes, it sounds like Straw was almost defending the person. |
   
Iaowks Reingold
Citizen Username: Noglider
Post Number: 345 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Thursday, August 7, 2003 - 11:36 am: |    |
Forgive me for saying this, because I'm the new kid on the block, but I was unimpressed by Strawberry's contributions. That's not because of his views. Rightwing views don't scare me. It's because his thinking is shallow, and his reasoning techniques were weak or missing. I prefer debate over a game of volleyball where there's nothing but mutual contradiction. I like a debate where I can learn a few things. I will either be swayed by the other person's arguments or I will reinforce my own views. If I reinforce my own views, it will be because while the other person's arguments are logically sound, I disagree with one or more of his premises. I learn his premises as a result of the debate. Strawberry offered none of these opportunities. In other words, I feel there is a difference between inflamation and controversy. I need something more than someone who just disagrees with me. I need someone to reason with me for it to satisfy me. That's why I don't think I ever responded to him. It wasn't tempting, because I didn't expect anything rewarding to happen from it. Tom Reingold
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