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Nohero
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Username: Nohero

Post Number: 1916
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, August 7, 2003 - 12:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Order yours now ...

Flyboy
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newjerz
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Username: Newjerz

Post Number: 69
Registered: 5-2003


Posted on Thursday, August 7, 2003 - 12:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is one of the most unprofessional and amateurish things I have ever seen.

Does he have to give them permission to use his likeness?
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Dave Ross
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 4985
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, August 7, 2003 - 12:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's probably funded by the GOP. (Nice packaging design, though)
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Arnomation
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Username: Arnomation

Post Number: 29
Registered: 7-2003


Posted on Thursday, August 7, 2003 - 12:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is that for real??? There's actually an 'action figure' of a guy who avoided being sent to Vietnam by enlisting in the National Guard and then went AWOL for a year???

My hero....
M

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Michael Arnold
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algebra2
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Username: Algebra2

Post Number: 1134
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, August 7, 2003 - 1:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

there's also a bobble head doll.
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algebra2
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Username: Algebra2

Post Number: 1137
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, August 7, 2003 - 3:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"I need someone to reason with me for it to satisfy me." OK, Reingold -- I'm not even gonna touch that statement.

For what it's worth, I learned much more from Strawberry's posts than I have from yours. He's intelligent and has a sense of humor. I really dislike the whole "self-righteous do-gooder" act many people put on when posting on message boards. With no devil's advocate it gets old very fast. Then again, different strokes and all that!
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero

Post Number: 1919
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, August 7, 2003 - 7:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To heck with reasoned argument. I say, the guy in the helmet is toast next election:

helmetman
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anon
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Username: Anon

Post Number: 748
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 7, 2003 - 8:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is the Action Figure the father or son? George Sr. was a WWII Navy flier. He got shot down over the Pacific and was almost lost at sea, but got rescued.
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero

Post Number: 1921
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Friday, August 8, 2003 - 8:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The action figure is the son. From the description in the ad: "On May 1, 2003, President Bush landed on the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72) in the Pacific Ocean, and officially declared the end to major combat in Iraq. While at the controls of an S-3B Viking aircraft from the 'Blue Sea Wolves' of Sea Control Squadron Three Five (VS-35), designated 'Navy 1,' he overflew the carrier before handing it over to the pilot for landing."

Is anything in the preceding quote true?
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duncanrogers
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Username: Duncanrogers

Post Number: 651
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Friday, August 8, 2003 - 9:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea.. the date. And the CVN-72.
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero

Post Number: 1926
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Friday, August 8, 2003 - 9:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, and the part about the Pacific Ocean is true. I'm pretty sure of that, since the ship was a short helicopter ride off the coast of San Diego at the time.
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Ignatius J
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Username: Ignatius_j

Post Number: 4
Registered: 8-2003


Posted on Saturday, August 9, 2003 - 8:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm waiting for the Presidential speech where Dubya starts to giggle, then laugh maniacally as he turns to the camera and tears off his rubber mask and reveals himself to be Dan Quayle!!!! Bwahahhaaahahaaaa!!!
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mtierney
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Username: Mtierney

Post Number: 383
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 4:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A must read for some folks should be "We Will Prevail" by the managing editor at National Review on Bush's speeches.
He has much praise for his American vernacular or plainspeech and noted while traveling with Bush for the past year how people west of New Jersey just love it! He was interviewed by Brian Lehrer last week and liberal Lehrer couldn't get anything negative out of this author (can't remember his name) who admitted he started his research for the book at a time he wasn't a Bush fan.
As a person born and bred in Brooklyn, I'd like to think my (alleged) accent doesn't put me in a too-dumb-to-tie-my-shoes category!
Anyway in a country that prides itself on its diversity, we better get used to differences in speech - look at California!

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Ignatius J
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Username: Ignatius_j

Post Number: 7
Registered: 8-2003


Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 5:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes but "Rarely has the question been asked: Is our children learning?"

---Florence, SC Jan 11 2000

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Mary Gallagher
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Username: Mary_g

Post Number: 44
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 9:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't figure out how to copy it onto this page but here's a link to another cartoon that captures the essence of our Armchair Commander in Chief.

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0329/sutton.php


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Mary Gallagher
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Username: Mary_g

Post Number: 45
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 9:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't figure out how to copy it onto this page but here's a link to another cartoon that captures the essence of our Armchair Commander in Chief.

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0329/sutton.php


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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 34
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 9:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh that's great!....

Mary get a grip, this guy makes more decisions in a day then you do all year. He's trying to make a difference.

Post a comic about Steven Hawking, that might be funny also.


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Nohero
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Username: Nohero

Post Number: 1934
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 10:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brett: The sad part is, one can't really be sure who's making the decisions. Based on the flap about the State of the Union message, they've all said that they don't actually read the reports they're sent.

Oh, regarding your reference to Stephen Hawking - don't go there. The people who get into trouble with jokes about handicapped people are usually not peace activists.
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sbenois
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Username: Sbenois

Post Number: 10162
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 10:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nohero, here is the answer:

COMMITTEE TO END THE OCCUPATION OF IRAQ

STATEMENT OF PURPOSE



After the Gulf War of 1991 and 12 years of sanctions and low intensity bombing warfare against the nation and people of Iraq, the US has executed a devastating invasion and takeover of Iraq through massive bombardment and invasion by hundreds of thousands of US troops. While the US administration has declared the “war” to be over, a brutal occupation continues as the US attempts to impose its will and the theft of Iraqi oil upon the Iraqi nation and people. For its part, the United Nations Security Council has voted unanimously to approve the US takeover Iraq and has actually given complete ownership of Iraqi oil to the US. US troops regularly shoot, injure and kill dozens of unarmed demonstrators opposing the US presence, carry out midnight raids in which people are killed and hundreds are arrested, arbitrarily set up road blocks and barbed wire barriers and otherwise harass and repress the entire population. The national museum and library, much of Iraqi infrastructure, hospitals and many communities around Iraq have been looted. Cholera and malnutrition are rampant and radiation poison is resulting from looted nuclear laboratories. The water and the electricity is not running throughout much of the country and depleted uranium and unexploded ordinance litters the entire nation.

For their part, the Iraqi people are opposing the occupation in many ways: through massive marches, to sermons in Iraqi mosques, to non-violent blockades of military processions to armed resistance. Lately, US GIs have are being killed daily as the resistance mounts and families of GIs and the GIs themselves are starting to call for an end to their involvement in the occupation.

The Committee to End the Occupation of Iraq has come together to work to build solidarity with the Iraqi people. We believe the best way to demonstrate our solidarity and support for the nation and people of Iraq is by demanding that the US withdraw from the occupation of Iraq. We are united by the following principles:

· Unconditional immediate withdrawal of all foreign troops from Iraq

· Immediate cessation of all hostile acts of military and economic character

· End of all foreign interference including by the United Nations in the internal affairs of Iraq

· US reparations for all destruction of Iraqi infrastructure as a result of the US military sanctions, bombing and invasions including environmental remediation and clean up of depleted uranium and dangerous unexploded ordinance that litters the entire nation.

· We support the unconditional sovereign rights of the Iraqi people to determine their own future.



We plan a campaign of action around these principles and goals to be inclusive of but not limited to the following:



We invite individuals and organizations to join the committee. We would like to present to your organizations a workshop including a slide show and discussion on the occupation and our plans to oppose it to your group or committee. Afterwards, we invite your group to join and become part of the committee. Please complete the above coupon if you are interested in helping organize a workshop on the US occupation of Iraq for your organization.
We are planning a picnic for the weekend of July 19 – 20 or 26 – 27 in the central NJ area, mark you calendars. Fun will be had by all.
We are proposing a week of Iraq solidarity for September 19 – 27, with activities to include vigils, demonstrations, public leafleting, educational events, etc.
We are planning to present workshops around the US occupation of Iraq at as many high schools and colleges as possible during the month of September.
We will be preparing an 8 page newspaper about the US occupation of Iraq with information on the many aspects of the US occupation, The deadline for the newspaper will be August 23. The goal is to have it ready for September.
We will be setting up a new website.
The slide show presentation we are using will soon be available as a power point presentation for a small donation. We will provide text for the slides as well. The idea if for each of us to become “expert” enough to continue to present on the topic to audiences large and small. We can also make copies of the slide presentation for traditional slide projectors as well.



---> Brought to you by Sbenois Engineering LLC <----
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero

Post Number: 1936
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 10:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As Tom Friedman pointed out before the war even began, we are now in the "you broke it, you bought it" phase of the occupation.

The fact that we can't just pull everything out (leaving behind misery, chaos, and a lack of authority that would make Afghanistan look like a military school in comparison), is no reason to think highly of the people who put us in this situation. The whizbangs who were put in charge of U.S. foreign policy and military policy were supposed to act based upon accurate information, and in the best long-term interests of our country. Whether they did so, is debatable.

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