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duncanrogers
Citizen Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 678 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 8:42 pm: |    |
Its a medieval cheer! Similar to "right on!" Often preceded by Hip Hip |
   
ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1750 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 9:11 pm: |    |
Thanks Duncan... On the topic, does anyone watching the TC meetings really think it's Profeta vs DeLuca/Ryan at Town Meeting, or the other way around? Who's going after who? And, how about Ian and David? I'll tell you one thing, it all makes for interesting viewing!  |
   
lseltzer
Citizen Username: Lseltzer
Post Number: 1668 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 9:28 pm: |    |
I've been told by someone who ought to know that I have it backwards WRT the attitude of the state, aid and surpluses. State aid, so I am told, isn't awarded unless a town makes a good case about needing it to lower taxes. This wasn't my impression before, but I trust my source. |
   
anon
Citizen Username: Anon
Post Number: 762 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 1:10 pm: |    |
Can't the members of the TC have an honest disagreement over fiscal policy without you folks thinking it is "bad blood" or something personal? |
   
sbenois
Citizen Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 10173 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 8:53 pm: |    |
There is no way that this particular part of the meeting could be described as an honest disagreement. For those who didn't see it, the budget discussion was enlivened by Mr. DeLuca's reading of a prepared statement in which he openly questioned and attacked Mr. Profeta over details that were contained in the It's the Taxes Stupid letter. The budget discussion could have been a healthy review over the budget details. Instead it degenerated into an ugly, unnecessary bit of dialogue revealing yet more bitterness over the June 3rd results. Mr. Profeta, obviously blindsided and unsure of why this campaign review was necessary, appeared at moments to be both uninterested in defending himself and compelled to do so. As he concluded his defense, Mr. Huemer began the debate all over with questions to Mr. Profeta as to how he believed that Mr. Deluca's prepared comments were misrepresentative of his actions during the earlier budget meetings. To his credit, Mr. Grodman weighed in with a direct statement that he only wanted to discuss the budget. This is now the second time since June 3rd that the election results and the campaign have been openly raised during the Township Committee meeting. The other being a meeting where members of the PBA came to Town Hall to discuss to contract negotiations. One can only hope that some sense of coming together will prevail before next year or a needless primary bloodbath will take place. The election is over. It's time to move on. ---> Brought to you by Sbenois Engineering LLC <---- |
   
ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1752 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 9:18 pm: |    |
The election is over. It's time to move on. The election is over. It's time to move on. The election is over. It's time to move on. The election is over. It's time to move on. The election is over. It's time to move on. The election is over. It's time to move on. The election is over. It's time to move on. The election is over. It's time to move on. The election is over. It's time to move on. The election is over. It's time to move on. |
   
Ed May
Citizen Username: Edmay
Post Number: 1640 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 12:56 am: |    |
I would like to think that when Joel Ziegler and I are elected to the Township Committee that we will behave better than certain members of the current TC did at that last meeting. Balanced Government Focus on Maplewood Lower Taxes Better Services Total Quality Management Ed May |
   
Joel S. Ziegler
Citizen Username: Joelziegler
Post Number: 19 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 1:02 am: |    |
I know that when Ed May and I are elected to the Township Committee that we will surely behave better than certain members of the current TC did at that last meeting. Balanced Government Focus on Maplewood Lower Taxes Better Services Total Quality Management Vote November 4th |
   
tjohn
Citizen Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 1650 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 7:26 am: |    |
How, specifically, does TQM apply to municipal government? Isn't it an approach for improving the quality of a repeatable process. I would expect a detailed analysis of the portion of the municipal budget (already less than half of our taxes) that can be optimized through TQM. |
   
ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 1755 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:25 pm: |    |
Balanced Government, Focus on Maplewood, Lower Taxes, Better Services, and Total Quality Management. Balanced Government, Focus on Maplewood, Lower Taxes, Better Services, and Total Quality Management. Balanced Government, Focus on Maplewood, Lower Taxes, Better Services, and Total Quality Management. Balanced Government, Focus on Maplewood, Lower Taxes, Better Services, and Total Quality Management. I find some things are just worth repeating.
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Dave Ross
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 5021 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:33 pm: |    |
Lower Taxes & Better Services? How? Create a volunteer DPW? "Self-service policing?" At-home leaf burnings instead of collecitons this fall? I think what is meant is one of these: A) Lower taxes and worse services B) Stable taxes and mostly the same services C) Increased taxes & better services No one will believe anything else because it's never been done before. |
   
newjerz
Citizen Username: Newjerz
Post Number: 116 Registered: 5-2003

| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:36 pm: |    |
Lower taxes & Certain services better and certain services worse. |
   
Dave Ross
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 5023 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:43 pm: |    |
That's B |
   
newjerz
Citizen Username: Newjerz
Post Number: 118 Registered: 5-2003

| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:46 pm: |    |
No its D. |
   
Dave Ross
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 5024 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:50 pm: |    |
Might be D if D=depends. Like "Depends if school part of the equation is involved." There will be no lower taxes until the BOE budget is tamed. In reality, the Maplewood TC can do very little to reduce taxes by itself, so there really isn't a D. |
   
newjerz
Citizen Username: Newjerz
Post Number: 119 Registered: 5-2003

| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 2:55 pm: |    |
You are correct, but the TC can tame the BOE budget. |
   
C Bataille
Citizen Username: Nakaille
Post Number: 1518 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 3:21 pm: |    |
Only if they succeed at getting the state to change the property tax/school budget formula. Cathy |
   
zoe
Citizen Username: Zoe
Post Number: 315 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 5:21 pm: |    |
Face it the BOE has obtained a free ride with double digit increases for many years now. I suggest, and am convinced that there is waste to be found in the school budget. Maybe in 2004 we will finally have a TC that will cause the BOE to make some sensible corrections. |
   
Robert Little
Citizen Username: Boblittle
Post Number: 42 Registered: 4-2003

| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 5:24 pm: |    |
The Township Committee only spends about a quarter of the total property tax bite so cuts at the Township level make for only a slight difference in your tax bill. Fifty-seven percent goes to the schools. The Township Committee can affect that amount in that it sends representatives to the Board of School Estimate. The remainder goes to Essex County. Absent any state-wide change, we should concentrate on getting the BOSE involved in the school budget process early and on limiting the growth of county government. |
   
johnny
Citizen Username: Johnny
Post Number: 707 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 5:54 pm: |    |
The Town Committee members on the BOSE have the power to vote no to the budget. If all three say no then it doesn't pass. They have the power to make change but choose not to use it. |