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     Nohero Citizen Username: Nohero Post Number: 2706 Registered: 10-1999  |
Um, you mentioned Clinton at in your post at 8:53, so maybe that's how we got on this topic? As for O'Neill being "canned", is that just another way to say that he was asked to leave because he admitted that he could not, in good conscience, support the administration's economic policies? | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 10595 Registered: 10-2001  |
Un, I was QUOTING O'Neill. If you take issue with his belief please speak to him about it. P.S. He should have been fired sooner. He was clueless in the Treasury. Just clueless. And in case you;re not hip enough to understand the subtlety, that's a criticism of BUSH. ---> Brought to you by Sbenois Engineering LLC <- Hey, it also wouldn’t look good coming out of a motel with your wife’s best friend saying you were just planning a surprise birthday party for her husband...- Arturo November '03 | ||
| Dave Ross Citizen Username: Dave Post Number: 6108 Registered: 4-1998  |
O'Neill wouldn't play ball with stupid fiscal policies. Even Greenspan agreed with him and the two were both against the prize money Bush handed to the richest Americans. TWICE. If you value wealth over work, Bush is your guy. If you wake up at 6 in the morning to catch the train to work and you support Bush, you're not fully informed or you took the blue pill and are still in the dream world. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 10596 Registered: 10-2001 |
Please tell all of those blue pill swallowing 6am train taking people to return the tax reductions they got from Bush. ---> Brought to you by Sbenois Engineering LLC <- Hey, it also wouldn’t look good coming out of a motel with your wife’s best friend saying you were just planning a surprise birthday party for her husband...- Arturo November '03 | ||
| Dave Ross Citizen Username: Dave Post Number: 6109 Registered: 4-1998 |
Meanwhile a single working mother making $35,000 paid more in taxes than Continental Airlines last year. The national debt is exploding. Who cares? Not Dick Cheney, but if you ask Argentine citizens what it was like when their govt defaulted on foreign debt, you'd get a far more realistic answer. At some point other nations won't feel great about buying US securities -- because of the dramatically increasing deficit or because we're being a lousy world neighbor or a combination of the two -- and it won't be easy to fix. As is woefully obvious here is that we have short-term minds and think that screwing up things royally is ok if we can get a few more bucks this year. Last time someone got away with this type of mindlessly ignorant planning was Christie Whitman's "tax break" that shifted aid away from municipalities. Now the Sbenois family may pay $200 less in state income taxes and $4000 more in property taxes. Bravo. Vote Republican indeed. | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4292 Registered: 5-2001 |
"Pray for me Argintina" I really am beginning to think that their is a real threat that the United States will move in that direction with the top 1% controlling 90% of the wealth and controlling the political process with "bread and circus" programs like the drug benefit, a trillion dollar space program, etc. with no thought to the debt incurred. I hope that the election this fall centers on economic issues, although I doubt if many understand them. It is a sad state of affairs when the Democrats are the party of fiscal conservatism which has been the case since Reagan. I will also lay even money with anyone who wants to take me up on it that Dean will not be nominated. Yeah he is the front runner, but he is no way near having a majority and the more pragmatic Democrats realize he is unelectable. | ||
| Insite Citizen Username: Insite Post Number: 195 Registered: 10-2002 |
all of a sudden Dave Ross is a big O'Neill fan. What a surprise. Dave Ross, a man who hates Bush so much he only bans Republicans. 1) Strawberry 2) Brett 3) Kenney 4) Insite On and on and on... | ||
| Nohero Citizen Username: Nohero Post Number: 2708 Registered: 10-1999 |
Actually, it's only the foul-mouthed who get suspended. And your list is incomplete. But, we already discussed this last month. Also, maybe it's not a matter of being a "fan" of O'Neill. The guy told a reporter what he saw. Is he a liar? Let's see what the administration people say. | ||
| Insite Citizen Username: Insite Post Number: 196 Registered: 10-2002 |
Sure Nohero. It was you who called another poster a "pissant" which went unpunished. You care to explain that one?? As a matter of fact the poster you attacked even made your attack his signature. Again, Mr. Ross chose to do nothing since you represent his far left ideals. I have to say being a resident of Maplewood for 23 years and a graduate of CHS I'm offended Dave has use of the name Maplewood to host this bias lefty liberal crap. Maybe the town will sue someday to have its name removed from the site. One can only hope. | ||
| NCJanow(akaLibraryLady) Citizen Username: Librarylady Post Number: 1149 Registered: 5-2001 |
pissant piss´ant` a. 1. Worthless or of no significance. Certainly not a banable offense. NCJ aka LibraryLady On a coffee break..or something like it. | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4297 Registered: 5-2001 |
I have been hangin' with Dave on this board for over three years. His views are, if anything, to the right of mine and I get accused of being a right wing extremist fairly regularly around here.  | ||
| Insite Citizen Username: Insite Post Number: 197 Registered: 10-2002 |
Dave's views were to the right back when he was a big Sebonis follower. He changed his song after backing the war in Iraq which obviously put him in a bad light with the Jerry Ryan liberal establishment. I guess not being invited to a few parties may have been the final insult. As a result, we now have this mess. Dave, it is you who needs to work on being fair and balanced. For starters how about banning Nohero for a few days for his attack which is well documented on this site and still unpunished. | ||
| JJC Citizen Username: Mercury Post Number: 165 Registered: 12-2002 |
This is Dave's sandbox. If you don't want to play, you can always find another sandbox. Back to the subject - the Bush adminstration has not directly refuted any of Mr. O'Neill's claims. This information has also been corroborated from other sources. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about that with a Mother who has lost a a son or daughter in Iraq. Was it worth it? Was it the right thing to do? Was Bush being straight with us? | ||
| tjohn Citizen Username: Tjohn Post Number: 2069 Registered: 12-2001  |
O'Neill didn't say anything new. It was just unusual for somebody at his level to say these sorts of things. It always seemed to me that the primary agenda in Iraq was to oust Hussein and everything else (WoMD, growing danger, etc.) was just a one-sided presentation of information to justify the our invasion of Iraq. With regard to the tax cuts, what O'Neill said was no surprise, although it always is a concern when a former CEO of a large company thinks that elements of our governments fiscal policy are foolhardy. Finally, in comparing Bush to Reagan, it seems to me that a clear difference is that Reagan had a clear vision for America and he did an excellent job of explaining that vision. In fact, let's not compare Reagan to Bush. Reagan, whether or not you agreed with his policies, is a good American who worked hard for the things he achieved in his life. | ||
| Insite Citizen Username: Insite Post Number: 198 Registered: 10-2002 |
O'Neill lied. When will you people grow up already? | ||
| JJC Citizen Username: Mercury Post Number: 167 Registered: 12-2002 |
Uhh..tell me who is living in the land of make-believe here. | ||
| Insite Citizen Username: Insite Post Number: 200 Registered: 10-2002 |
When you say the Bush administration hasn't directly refuted the claims, I guess you missed Rumsfeld's comments yesterday. You do realize Rumsfeld is part of the Administration, don't you? | ||
| JJC Citizen Username: Mercury Post Number: 168 Registered: 12-2002 |
I did not hear Rumsfeld directly refute any of O'Neill's "facts" in his soundbite. | ||
| Insite Citizen Username: Insite Post Number: 201 Registered: 10-2002 |
RUMSFELD "what I've been reading about the book is so different from my experience in this administration. It is just dramatic. It's night and day. I work with the president on a daily basis, almost. And I work in the administration and I see the interagency process and how it works. And I must say that, over the years, I've watched people write books that I've known. I've watched people write books about things that I have been intimately involved in. Now, as I say, I haven't read the book. And I have never written a book. And one of the reasons I've never written a book is because I've read books by people who have written books or participated in books, in this case. And I've been disappointed in them because what they represent is a narrow little slice of what they saw and not a balanced view and not a 360-degree view. And the perspective I have of this president, who I have just enormous respect for -- his brain, his engagement, his interest, his probing questions, his constructive and positive approach to issues. I mean, you can't go through two wars and not work closely with the president if you're secretary of defense of the United States. And I see every day a totally different picture than the one that is being characterized in the press. So I'm glad I could help you out with..." | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 1768 Registered: 5-2001 |
so then what's the specific lie? His perspective of the President is different from Rumsfeld's? |
