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guycaruso
Citizen Username: Guycaruso
Post Number: 34 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 12:38 pm: |    |
It really doesn't matter , but it makes things interesting. http://drudgereport.com/ |
   
cjc
Citizen Username: Cjc
Post Number: 900 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 12:47 pm: |    |
JFK-erry. Navy man, infidelities. If he just straightens out his foreign policy and leaves the tax cuts in place, he'll be a clone of the real thing. Add to that this his wife made major bank on Ingersoll-Rand when they moved off-shore to Bermuda. This as this jerk rails about offshore businesses. Scrutiny will only increase. I know, it won't matter to you in-the-tank liberals. We're fighting over the middle, the moderates, the squishes, the occassional political participants. We'll see. |
   
guycaruso
Citizen Username: Guycaruso
Post Number: 35 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 1:20 pm: |    |
Hey CJC , I am on your side, I was trying to take the high road . Hopefully Kerry doesn't turn into to Gary Hart, until after he gets nominated. |
   
Ukealalio
Citizen Username: Ukealalio
Post Number: 447 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 2:56 pm: |    |
I'll take an adulterer any day over an inarticulate buffoon, with an arrest record and a wife who commited vehicular manslaughter. Under normal circumstances I would consider the above to be sensational B.S. but there's a lot at stake. If the GOP is gearing up for a dirty fight, you've certainly given the Democrates some prize ammunition. |
   
cjc
Citizen Username: Cjc
Post Number: 906 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 3:05 pm: |    |
Like Willie Horton, this news was leaked by a democrat. Dukakis can blame Gore, and Kerry can blame Clark. No GOP in this.
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guycaruso
Citizen Username: Guycaruso
Post Number: 36 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 3:25 pm: |    |
Ukea that is terrible what you said about Laura Bush . Here is a recap of what happened when she was 17. On the evening of 6 November 1963, two days after her 17th birthday, Laura Welch failed to stop her Chevy sedan at a stop sign and smashed into a Corvair being driven by a school chum, Michael Douglas, also 17. Laura and her passenger, Judy Dykes, were treated for minor injuries at a nearby hospital, where they learned that Douglas had died from his injuries. No police charges were filed, apparently, but paperwork from the accident is missing or unclear. Now Laura Welch is married to U. S. president George W. Bush and is known around the world as LAURA BUSH. The story made national news during the presidential election of 2000, but little new information came to light. At the time her spokesman, Andrew Malcolm, said "To this day Mrs. Bush remains unable to talk about it." The Republicans will attack when you guys actually get a nominee. |
   
tjohn
Citizen Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2261 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 3:41 pm: |    |
Was Laura Welch at age 17 from a family with the power to get her out of trouble if, for example, she was slightly tipsy at the time of the accident? If yes, let's get to the bottom of it. If not, let's move on. |
   
bobk
Supporter Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4643 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 3:50 pm: |    |
This came up a while ago. The difference is that now a days, excluding political influence if any, blowing a stop sign at over 50 mph is treated as negligent homicide in Texas. How many missing records does the Bush family have? Things were so much simpler in the early 1960s. Back on topic, I doubt if the GOP wants the story, if any, about Kerry out until after he is nominated. If there is any truth to this story I don't see it becoming an issue until then.
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cjc
Citizen Username: Cjc
Post Number: 907 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:07 pm: |    |
Democrats planted this, and AP, ABC and others have investigated and are sitting on this. Much like they sat on Monica. Why? Cuz they do it too? The parallels to JFK aren't entirely off-base, especially regarding press complicity. Insiders in DC say Kerry strays plenty and often. If this is an intern, it's a story. If he's just having affairs, they'll bury it. But I wonder why would an intern be a problem? It's not like you're lording your power over some little skirt in the office. What's N.O.W. upset about with that position of power thing over young girls? Ooops...they dropped that back in 1998. I'm sure many of you wouldn't mind having your daughters under someone like Kerry. No big deal. Everyone in Maplewood does it. |
   
Ukealalio
Citizen Username: Ukealalio
Post Number: 449 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:10 pm: |    |
Running a stop sign in a 50 MPH zone is pretty darn reckless. Read the bottom of my post, sensational, yes but if your gonna play dirty, hold on to your hat. Taking the moral high ground is admirable but if the GOP want to play dirty, were gonna be ready. You can't run DUMBYA and his crew on the "Were the moral choice for America", too many holes in that story. |
   
tjohn
Citizen Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2262 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:12 pm: |    |
A certain percentage of the electorate will vote for any Democrat no matter what. Another chunk will vote for Bush no matter what. A small but critical percentage of the electorate is still in play. Since the Clinton affair has innoculated us against a lot of this stuff, I think the alledged philandering will have to be pretty juicy to make any difference. Incidentally, Gary Hart's undoing was not his philandering so much as his inability to behave during the primary season. |
   
Addy
Citizen Username: Addy
Post Number: 43 Registered: 12-2003

| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:13 pm: |    |
Clark's endorsing Kerry. |
   
cjc
Citizen Username: Cjc
Post Number: 909 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:20 pm: |    |
Can't wait to see if he takes questions and the press asks him about his off-the-record remark. The morals card? Morals don't work with and matter to the left. We're going for the squish middle with that. |
   
Cowboy
Citizen Username: Cowboy
Post Number: 362 Registered: 9-2003

| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:24 pm: |    |
Ukealalio, "gonna play dirty." Be careful, you may just get what you wish for... |
   
tjohn
Citizen Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2265 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:24 pm: |    |
That's not quite right CJC. Morals matter only when it's the other guy. If it's your guy, it was a youthful indiscretion. |
   
Diversity Man
Citizen Username: Deadwhitemale
Post Number: 630 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:29 pm: |    |
It is a pleasure to see how the Democrats have dumbed down our discourse. Of course, the Republicans can play at this game, and will. Just you wait, 'enry 'iggins, just you wait. DWM |
   
Addy
Citizen Username: Addy
Post Number: 44 Registered: 12-2003

| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:32 pm: |    |
Unsubstantiated allegations against Clark and Kerry by rougue "journalist" Drudge isn't really a good basis to make any worthwhile assumptions. |
   
guycaruso
Citizen Username: Guycaruso
Post Number: 37 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:36 pm: |    |
Drudge broke the " MONICA " story while Newsweek sat on it. Don't be too quick to dismiss it. |
   
Nohero
Citizen Username: Nohero
Post Number: 2866 Registered: 10-1999

| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:46 pm: |    |
As Addy pointed out, Clark's endorsing Kerry: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/02/12/politics 1435EST0674.DTL Unless, of course, Clark is secretly still working for Hilary, and only pretending to endorse Kerry because he wants him to be the last man standing, when the "Monkey Business 2004" scandal breaks ... |
   
tjohn
Citizen Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2267 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:46 pm: |    |
Uke, If seventeen year-old Laura Welch was treated consistently under Texas law of the time, there is no story. I find it perfectly plausible that she still finds it difficult to discuss. |
   
Ukealalio
Citizen Username: Ukealalio
Post Number: 451 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 5:01 pm: |    |
Dumbed down our discourse?, read the friggin head of this thread and initial posting, it was already at the bottom of the barrel. "Under normal circumstances, I would consider the above to be sensationalist B.S.". Who wrote that, let me see, why it was me. "Gonna play dirty", let me see the GOP stole the election by playing dirty in 2000, this must mean in 2004 their gonna take the high road. Anyone wanna sell me a bridge ?. |
   
anon
Citizen Username: Anon
Post Number: 968 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 9:30 pm: |    |
As long as American soldiers are dying in Iraq is it not totally despicable to make this kind of nonsense into an issue in the election? So 17 year old girls sometimes drive badly? Big deal! (The fact of a death is a tragedy, but an accident is an accident) And wealthy, famous, powerfull middle aged men are not always faithfull to their wives? Really! |
   
bobk
Supporter Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4649 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 7:57 am: |    |
It is interesting to see that even Kerry supporters seem to think the allegation is true. |
   
guycaruso
Citizen Username: Guycaruso
Post Number: 38 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 8:15 am: |    |
Lighten up Ukea, I plan on posting more DUMB threads, so be ready. |
   
bobk
Supporter Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4652 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 8:43 am: |    |
Speaking about dumb, anyone else catch the pictures in the Daily News of first Daughter Barbara dirty dancing the night away.  |
   
guycaruso
Citizen Username: Guycaruso
Post Number: 39 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 8:53 am: |    |
It looks like Drudge has found the WMD's......... Woman of MASS achusetts Democrat |
   
Dave
Citizen Username: Dave
Post Number: 6381 Registered: 4-1998

| Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 10:05 am: |    |
KERRY ON IMUS: 'THERE'S NOTHING TO REPORT, NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT . . . NO' from Drudge I'd like to see Edwards beat Kerry, but not this way. |
   
cjc
Citizen Username: Cjc
Post Number: 911 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 12:14 pm: |    |
Not true, tjohn. Liberals would service a pile of rocks if they knew a snake was underneath. Morals have never mattered to liberals, so long as your public moralilty is appropriate. Sign legislation where the defendant's sexual history is fair game in a harrassment case, then balk and lie when it's brought up in like a Paula Jones case, and float the nuts and sluts rumor against Lewinsky while at the same time collecting the N.O.W. endorsement. And if N.O.W. doesn't like it, as was said to Juanita Brodderick -- "put some ice on it." NOW has been emasculated over that ever since. Libs have never tossed anyone over the side. Conservatives eat their own all the time. |
   
tjohn
Citizen Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2276 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 1:11 pm: |    |
To the extent that N.O.W. stood by Clinton, it was because any alternative was far worse. |