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guycaruso
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 12:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It really doesn't matter , but it makes things interesting.

http://drudgereport.com/
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cjc
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Post Number: 900
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 12:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JFK-erry. Navy man, infidelities. If he just straightens out his foreign policy and leaves the tax cuts in place, he'll be a clone of the real thing.

Add to that this his wife made major bank on Ingersoll-Rand when they moved off-shore to Bermuda. This as this jerk rails about offshore businesses. Scrutiny will only increase.

I know, it won't matter to you in-the-tank liberals. We're fighting over the middle, the moderates, the squishes, the occassional political participants. We'll see.
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guycaruso
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Post Number: 35
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 1:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey CJC , I am on your side, I was trying to take the high road . Hopefully Kerry doesn't turn into to Gary Hart, until after he gets nominated.
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Ukealalio
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Post Number: 447
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 2:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll take an adulterer any day over an inarticulate buffoon, with an arrest record and a wife who commited vehicular manslaughter.

Under normal circumstances I would consider the above to be sensational B.S. but there's a lot at stake. If the GOP is gearing up for a dirty fight, you've certainly given the Democrates some prize ammunition.
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cjc
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Post Number: 906
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 3:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Like Willie Horton, this news was leaked by a democrat. Dukakis can blame Gore, and Kerry can blame Clark. No GOP in this.

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guycaruso
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 3:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ukea that is terrible what you said about Laura Bush . Here is a recap of what happened when she was 17. On the evening of 6 November 1963, two days after her 17th birthday, Laura Welch failed to stop her Chevy sedan at a stop sign and smashed into a Corvair being driven by a school chum, Michael Douglas, also 17. Laura and her passenger, Judy Dykes, were treated for minor injuries at a nearby hospital, where they learned that Douglas had died from his injuries. No police charges were filed, apparently, but paperwork from the accident is missing or unclear. Now Laura Welch is married to U. S. president George W. Bush and is known around the world as LAURA BUSH. The story made national news during the presidential election of 2000, but little new information came to light. At the time her spokesman, Andrew Malcolm, said "To this day Mrs. Bush remains unable to talk about it."

The Republicans will attack when you guys actually get a nominee.
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tjohn
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Post Number: 2261
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was Laura Welch at age 17 from a family with the power to get her out of trouble if, for example, she was slightly tipsy at the time of the accident? If yes, let's get to the bottom of it. If not, let's move on.
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bobk
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Post Number: 4643
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 3:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This came up a while ago. The difference is that now a days, excluding political influence if any, blowing a stop sign at over 50 mph is treated as negligent homicide in Texas. How many missing records does the Bush family have?

Things were so much simpler in the early 1960s.

Back on topic, I doubt if the GOP wants the story, if any, about Kerry out until after he is nominated. If there is any truth to this story I don't see it becoming an issue until then.
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cjc
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Post Number: 907
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Democrats planted this, and AP, ABC and others have investigated and are sitting on this. Much like they sat on Monica. Why? Cuz they do it too?

The parallels to JFK aren't entirely off-base, especially regarding press complicity. Insiders in DC say Kerry strays plenty and often. If this is an intern, it's a story. If he's just having affairs, they'll bury it.

But I wonder why would an intern be a problem? It's not like you're lording your power over some little skirt in the office. What's N.O.W. upset about with that position of power thing over young girls? Ooops...they dropped that back in 1998. I'm sure many of you wouldn't mind having your daughters under someone like Kerry. No big deal. Everyone in Maplewood does it.
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Ukealalio
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Post Number: 449
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Running a stop sign in a 50 MPH zone is pretty darn reckless. Read the bottom of my post, sensational, yes but if your gonna play dirty, hold on to your hat. Taking the moral high ground is admirable but if the GOP want to play dirty, were gonna be ready. You can't run DUMBYA and his crew on the "Were the moral choice for America", too many holes in that story.
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tjohn
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Post Number: 2262
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A certain percentage of the electorate will vote for any Democrat no matter what. Another chunk will vote for Bush no matter what. A small but critical percentage of the electorate is still in play. Since the Clinton affair has innoculated us against a lot of this stuff, I think the alledged philandering will have to be pretty juicy to make any difference.

Incidentally, Gary Hart's undoing was not his philandering so much as his inability to behave during the primary season.
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Addy
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Clark's endorsing Kerry.
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cjc
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Post Number: 909
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can't wait to see if he takes questions and the press asks him about his off-the-record remark.

The morals card? Morals don't work with and matter to the left. We're going for the squish middle with that.
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Cowboy
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Post Number: 362
Registered: 9-2003


Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ukealalio, "gonna play dirty." Be careful, you may just get what you wish for...
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tjohn
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Post Number: 2265
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's not quite right CJC. Morals matter only when it's the other guy. If it's your guy, it was a youthful indiscretion.
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Diversity Man
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Post Number: 630
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is a pleasure to see how the Democrats have dumbed down our discourse.
Of course, the Republicans can play at this game, and will.
Just you wait, 'enry 'iggins, just you wait.
DWM
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Addy
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unsubstantiated allegations against Clark and Kerry by rougue "journalist" Drudge isn't really a good basis to make any worthwhile assumptions.
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guycaruso
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Post Number: 37
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Drudge broke the " MONICA " story while Newsweek sat on it. Don't be too quick to dismiss it.
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Nohero
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Post Number: 2866
Registered: 10-1999


Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As Addy pointed out, Clark's endorsing Kerry:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/02/12/politics 1435EST0674.DTL

Unless, of course, Clark is secretly still working for Hilary, and only pretending to endorse Kerry because he wants him to be the last man standing, when the "Monkey Business 2004" scandal breaks ...
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tjohn
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Post Number: 2267
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Uke,

If seventeen year-old Laura Welch was treated consistently under Texas law of the time, there is no story. I find it perfectly plausible that she still finds it difficult to discuss.
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Ukealalio
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Post Number: 451
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 5:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dumbed down our discourse?, read the friggin head of this thread and initial posting, it was already at the bottom of the barrel.

"Under normal circumstances, I would consider the above to be sensationalist B.S.". Who wrote that, let me see, why it was me.

"Gonna play dirty", let me see the GOP stole the election by playing dirty in 2000, this must mean in 2004 their gonna take the high road.

Anyone wanna sell me a bridge ?.
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anon
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Post Number: 968
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 9:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As long as American soldiers are dying in Iraq is it not totally despicable to make this kind of nonsense into an issue in the election? So 17 year old girls sometimes drive badly? Big deal! (The fact of a death is a tragedy, but an accident is an accident) And wealthy, famous, powerfull middle aged men are not always faithfull to their wives? Really!
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bobk
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Post Number: 4649
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 7:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is interesting to see that even Kerry supporters seem to think the allegation is true.
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guycaruso
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Post Number: 38
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 8:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lighten up Ukea, I plan on posting more DUMB threads, so be ready.
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bobk
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Post Number: 4652
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 8:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Speaking about dumb, anyone else catch the pictures in the Daily News of first Daughter Barbara dirty dancing the night away. :-)
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guycaruso
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 8:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It looks like Drudge has found the WMD's.........
Woman of MASS achusetts Democrat
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Dave
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Post Number: 6381
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 10:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

KERRY ON IMUS: 'THERE'S NOTHING TO REPORT, NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT . . . NO'
from Drudge


I'd like to see Edwards beat Kerry, but not this way.
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cjc
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Post Number: 911
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 12:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not true, tjohn. Liberals would service a pile of rocks if they knew a snake was underneath. Morals have never mattered to liberals, so long as your public moralilty is appropriate. Sign legislation where the defendant's sexual history is fair game in a harrassment case, then balk and lie when it's brought up in like a Paula Jones case, and float the nuts and sluts rumor against Lewinsky while at the same time collecting the N.O.W. endorsement.

And if N.O.W. doesn't like it, as was said to Juanita Brodderick -- "put some ice on it." NOW has been emasculated over that ever since.

Libs have never tossed anyone over the side. Conservatives eat their own all the time.
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tjohn
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Post Number: 2276
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 1:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To the extent that N.O.W. stood by Clinton, it was because any alternative was far worse.

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