| Author | Message | ||
     Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7058 Registered: 10-2001  |
good news for Americans/bad news for libs.. Anyone else make a small fortune yesterday?  libs. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 4767 Registered: 5-2001 |
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| Duncan Supporter Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 6221 Registered: 12-2001  |
touche! | ||
| Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7061 Registered: 10-2001 |
commie b.s. | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 5551 Registered: 8-2003 |
If the country is well run and the economy blistering and I'm poor, I would be ashamed of myself. However if the country is mired in Carter like recessions and I managed to acquire wealth, I'd be rather proud of that. | ||
| The Notorious S.L.K. Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 1297 Registered: 10-2005 |
tom- I guess you better give your wealth away to wash away your shame... -SLK | ||
| GOP Man Citizen Username: Headsup Post Number: 318 Registered: 5-2005  |
for shame SLK. I thought you were a good Republican, but your last post means you agree with tom that the country is being governed badly. I guess you've thrown in the towel with the libs. Not me. I still believe in my president, and how inspriationally he is governing my country. GOD BLESS GEORGE BUSH, AND GOD BLESS THE DOW! | ||
| Southerner Citizen Username: Southerner Post Number: 914 Registered: 2-2004 |
I love poor people. | ||
| The Libertarian Citizen Username: Local_1_crew Post Number: 1968 Registered: 3-2004  |
without poor people i would have to make my own martinis. | ||
| llama Citizen Username: Llama Post Number: 759 Registered: 5-2001  |
Rich, ignorant morons are the poorest of the poor. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 4769 Registered: 5-2001 |
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| Innisowen Citizen Username: Innisowen Post Number: 1992 Registered: 3-2004 |
Anybody else buy a tank of gasoline yesterday or today? $3.05 per gallon outside of Albany, NY today. $2.85 per gallon in Bennington, VT yesterday. Anyone taking bets on $3.25? Nice accompaniment to a great market. You'll need the market pull to pay for the petrol. | ||
| Gregor Samsa Citizen Username: Oldsctls67 Post Number: 500 Registered: 11-2002  |
Paid $2.97 on rt 67 in Schaticoke, NY on Monday.. | ||
| Innisowen Citizen Username: Innisowen Post Number: 1994 Registered: 3-2004 |
Whoa! Took my morning bike ride past the Exxon gas station in Bennington a while ago. This morning's price for regular: $2.89 per gallon. Go, equities! Doncha just love the economic decisiveness of this administration? | ||
| tjohn Supporter Username: Tjohn Post Number: 4242 Registered: 12-2001  |
I would expect that environmentalists would be happy about these prices. Unfortunately, the inner socialist in many environmentalists is driving them to attack the oil companies for profiteering. | ||
| Innisowen Citizen Username: Innisowen Post Number: 1996 Registered: 3-2004 |
Wouldn't you be displeased? There is a legal and ethical difference between profiting and profiteering. Same difference applies to Ken Lay, Andy Fastow, and Jeff Skilling, along with Michael Milken (boy, there's one from the past) on the one hand, and Bill Gates, and Larry Ellison, and Larry Page and Sergey Brin as examples, on the other. | ||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 1133 Registered: 10-2004  |
then theres the 400 Million dollar retirement package to Exxons outgoing CEO. talk about gouging. If I owned Exxon Mobile stock I would be totally upset. | ||
| tjohn Supporter Username: Tjohn Post Number: 4245 Registered: 12-2001 |
Oil company profits are a side show that allows us to believe that rising oil prices are temporary rather than portent of worse to come. Oil prices, like the stock market, may be a bit irrational in the short term, but long-term, they will rise as demand increases and oil becomes more expensive to extract from the remaining oil fields in the world. Oil company profits are just a populist issue, an opiate for the masses, not unlike SOMA in Brave New World. | ||
| dougw Citizen Username: Dougw Post Number: 826 Registered: 3-2005 |
Hoops you don't own any Exxon stock? You have no money in an S&P 500 mutual fund? | ||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 1134 Registered: 10-2004 |
dougw - your right damn it! Now I am mad. | ||
| Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7062 Registered: 10-2001 |
Don't be so mad.. Exxon/mobil corp. Day's Range: 63.79 - 64.10 52wk Range: 52.78 - 65.96 Not a bad stock to own over last year.. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 4771 Registered: 5-2001 |
Nice if you want to buy ... what if you want to invest? The outgoing CEO's package is worth something like $144,000 for every day he worked. Those are, just so you remember, days he already was paid quite handsomely for. Shouldn't stockholders or (heavens!) employees of Exxon be entitled to some of that lucre? | ||
| Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7063 Registered: 10-2001 |
No. It's his deal and his money. I guess we can conclude Yankee fans are entitled to some of AROD's money as well based on your logic. | ||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 1135 Registered: 10-2004 |
Straw - the issue as a stockholder is not that the employees of the company are not making enough money. I think they most likely are. The issue that this CEO is not worth 400,000,000.00 dollars as a retiree. What kind of giveaway is that? That money should be funneled back into the business so that it stays profitable and new technologies can be invested into. 400M as a retirement package is ridiculous. | ||
| Innisowen Citizen Username: Innisowen Post Number: 1999 Registered: 3-2004 |
Strawberry is right. It's a great stock and creates a lot of shareholder value. And the shareholders will need that value to pay their heating oil and gasoline costs. Rumours by nitwits that xom will surpass goog in price are of course wild exaggerations. Goog is new tech and prepped to jump S-curves. Xom is old industry positioned to crawl slightly further up its current S-curve. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 4773 Registered: 5-2001 |
I understand that, present-tense, it is his deal and his money. Previously, though, it was the stockholders money. Why should he have gotten it? Your a-rod analogy doesn't hold up. The Yankees are not owned by their fans. The Yankees are privately held, and a-rod was given a contract by the owner. The fans have no financial stake in the matter. Profits do not accrue to them. Exxon is owned by its stockholders. If that money were not to go to excessive executive compensation it could have been distributed to them as dividends or banked -- which would apply further upward pressure to the stock price. | ||
| Bob K Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 11265 Registered: 5-2001 |
A-Rods deal was negotiated before he signed with the Rangers, who unloaded him and his contract to George and the boys. The owners knew the cost at the get go. I am pretty sure that the retirement package wasn't part of the Exxon/Mobile CEOs original employment contract, although I may be wrong about that. If this is the case there is no basis for a comparison. | ||
| Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7064 Registered: 10-2001 |
Stockholders should feel free to dump the stock if they're unhappy with the compensation..Not a very hard thing to do. Obviously, Exxon isn't to worried about this and neither should you. | ||
| themp Supporter Username: Themp Post Number: 2800 Registered: 12-2001  |
If a strong stock market is bad for the liberal cause, I guess the Clinton years were devastating. I'm surprised there are any left. | ||
| Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7065 Registered: 10-2001 |
Sadly, he screwed that up as well. | ||
| Innisowen Citizen Username: Innisowen Post Number: 2001 Registered: 3-2004 |
If you really knew how the market cycles work, you would realize what a dumb observation you just made. | ||
| Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7066 Registered: 10-2001 |
I see...So the Clinton recession wasn't Clinton's fault? If you knew anything about the market you'd be ashamed of the observation you just made. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 4775 Registered: 5-2001 |
I find it terribly funny that Straw wants us to believe he's after any kind of truth about market mechanisms. All he wants to do is blame Clinton, boost Bush. "Our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is over..." | ||
| Innisowen Citizen Username: Innisowen Post Number: 2002 Registered: 3-2004 |
Shame on you, Straw, for being so naive and short-sighted. No more than you would blame the fall-out of 1987's market moves on Reagan and Bush. | ||
| Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7067 Registered: 10-2001 |
Reagan saved an economy destroyed by Carter/Bush saves an economy beaten down by Clinton.. This is nothing new....The GOP is constantly correcting the liberal economic agenda of destroying the wealth. | ||
| GOP Man Citizen Username: Headsup Post Number: 319 Registered: 5-2005 |
you said it, my friend. the moron libs don't know this simple rule: Republicans mean prosperity, Democrats mean recession. the stock market soars under Republicans and falls under Dems. it's a fact, just look it up. anyone who tells you otherwise is a moron. | ||
| John Davies Citizen Username: 07079 Post Number: 4 Registered: 3-2006 |
How is presiding over a record budget deficit "saving" the economy? | ||
| Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7068 Registered: 10-2001 |
oh geez...Here we go again. Funny how the libs refuse to admit the economy is humming, Americans are working, the markets are booming, the housing market remains strong, inflation remains low. Instead all they want to do is focus on the deficit. If you want talk deficit, you have to admit the economy is currently working for Americans.. If you can't admit that, you can't bitch about the deficit.. That's just the way it is. | ||
| John Davies Citizen Username: 07079 Post Number: 5 Registered: 3-2006 |
Why do you assume I'm a "lib", plenty of "cons" are concerned about the economy. | ||
| themp Supporter Username: Themp Post Number: 2801 Registered: 12-2001 |
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_08/b3871044.htm |
