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     Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7149 Registered: 10-2001  |
I mean seriously folks, what's up with this family? How in the world can these people continue being voices in the Democratic party? Disgraceful. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 4858 Registered: 5-2001 |
a quick Google on "Bush twins drunk" returns some 1.1 million results. I don't think any Bush supporter is in a position to criticize an individual, let alone an entire family, for substance abuse problems. People are by their nature weak, and your boy is no exception. At least no one got killed as a result of this error in judgment. | ||
| Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7151 Registered: 10-2001 |
The Bush twins are not elected officials....While DUI is always unacceptable, being an elected official raises the level of concern to new heights. I mean these drunken Kennedy's are voting on policy everyday. My concern is that chances are they may be doing this while drinking. | ||
| GOP Man Citizen Username: Headsup Post Number: 364 Registered: 5-2005  |
once again strawberry is the only one of you smart enough to get it. only a political party made up of morons would allow itself to be represented by someone who has ever driven under the influence. | ||
| ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 48 Registered: 2-2006  |
Amazing how this is front page news. It was "breaking news" last night, even though it happened almost 24 hours earlier. Maybe it's newsworthy, maybe not. My feeling is how can a good American care about this fool when the mainstream, read that as right wing corporate media, won't tell you that: The Republican's in the Defense Appropriations Committee were running a prostitution service out of the Department of Homeland Security during a war for profit they started Gas prices are $3 per gallon under a government whose Vice President had secret talks with the oil companies, who was in those meetings and why? Valerie Plame was monitoring nuclear activity in Iran The Ohio 2004 election was probably stolen The Florida 2000 election was probably stolen Republican's K Street Project was by design an anti constitutional, anti American, enterprise to create one party rule and a defacto dictatorship Iraq was not only based on a lie but it's execution was botched to funnel money to Bush's buddies 9/11 happened on Bush's watch and he hasn't caught the perpetrator and by the way the Bin Ladens are closest of Bush family friends and Bush's dad was meeting with a Bin Laden as the planes hit the trade center Bush's egregious incompetence and lies caused the disaster that was Katrina to be exacerbated to an extreme I could type all day long, and most of this stuff I mentioned is clearly below the radar of the average American. I guess the right wing media needed to get Rumsfeld being called out by a CIA agent off the screen, and people like you, Strawberry, go right along with it. At what point do folks like you and the paid Republican blog typists simply become traitors to our country and constitution? Soon I'd say, if not now. | ||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 1281 Registered: 10-2004  |
Interesting point ae35. It is one thing to be a staunch supporter of the administration but quite another to ignore the facts in favor of the spin. I cant agree with the accusation of traitor, but certainly these people are doing harm to the country by not thinking clearly about what is right. | ||
| Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7153 Registered: 10-2001 |
The above post is idiotic b.s. (a.e.35 unit) Back to topic..Should Kennedy resign? I say yes. | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 2075 Registered: 8-2003  |
yes, he should resign. it's not like he did something trivial like have a few beers and shoot an old man in the face. | ||
| ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 49 Registered: 2-2006 |
Strawberry, I know idiotic, and that's not idiotic. How about Elizabeth Doles request to fellow Republican's for money: "If Democrats take control of the Senate in '06, they will cancel the Bush tax cuts, allow liberal activist judges to run our courts and undermine all Republican efforts to win the War on Terror. Even worse, they will call for endless congressional investigations and possibly call for the impeachment of President Bush! Please help the NRSC protect our President, our conservative agenda and our critical GOP Senate Majority by making an urgent online donation today." That's idiotic. | ||
| dave23 Citizen Username: Dave23 Post Number: 1730 Registered: 5-2001 |
The good Dr. wins with a third-round KO. | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 1513 Registered: 4-2004  |
Why would he resign? His father got away with a homicide while driving drunk, his cousin was accused of rape while drunk, his other cousin was killed while rough-housing drunk on the slopes of Aspen- it's the family hobby. Two wrongs don't make a right, but the Bushes will have a long way to go to match the Kennedy legacy of drunken boorishness and misbehavior. | ||
| LilLB Citizen Username: Lillb Post Number: 1651 Registered: 10-2002  |
Are you talking about Patrick kennedy? He wasn't drunk. Irresponsible maybe, but not drunk. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/05/washington/05kennedy.html WASHINGTON, May 4 — Representative Patrick J. Kennedy crashed his car into a traffic barrier on Capitol Hill in the early morning hours on Thursday. He said he was apparently disoriented because he had been taking Ambien, the sleeping pill, and another medication. Mr. Kennedy, a Rhode Island Democrat, said he drove to the Capitol at about 2:45 a.m. in the mistaken belief that he needed to vote. The House was not in session, having adjourned at 11:59 p.m. on Wednesday. Mr. Kennedy, the 38-year-old son of Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, issued a statement saying he had been involved in a traffic accident at First and C Streets S.E. near the Capitol. "I consumed no alcohol prior to the incident," Mr. Kennedy said. "I will fully cooperate with the Capitol police in whatever investigation they choose to undertake." Roll Call, a Capitol Hill newspaper, said a police union official had written a letter to the Capitol police chief asserting that Mr. Kennedy appeared to be staggering when he left his car. But, it said, police officers at the scene were not allowed by their supervisors to perform a sobriety test. Roll Call quoted the letter as saying Capitol police officials gave Mr. Kennedy a ride home. Capitol police officers said the handling of the case created at least an appearance that Mr. Kennedy had received special treatment. He denied the suggestion. "At the time of the accident, I was instructed to park my car and was driven home by the United States Capitol police," Mr. Kennedy said. "At no time did I ask for any special consideration." Mr. Kennedy was the only person in the car and was not injured, his press secretary, Robin Costello, said. The congressman said he had also been taking Phenergan, an anti-nausea medication, as well as Ambien. Phenergan is sometimes used as an antihistamine, a sedative or a sleep aid. Mr. Kennedy said both drugs had been prescribed by the attending physician of the Capitol, who cares for lawmakers and their aides. He said he received the Phenergan this week as treatment for a gastrointestinal disorder. He said the Ambien had been "prescribed by the attending physician some time ago" as a sleep aid. "Following the last series of votes on Wednesday evening," Mr. Kenendy said, "I returned to my home on Capitol Hill and took the prescribed amount" of the two drugs. "Some time around 2:45 a.m. I drove the few blocks to the Capitol complex believing I needed to vote. Apparently, I was disoriented from the medication." Sgt. Kimberly Schneider, a spokeswoman for the Capitol police, said the agency was investigating the case as "a traffic accident." Police officers said that when they approached Mr. Kennedy after the accident, he identified himself as a congressman who was late for a vote. | ||
| Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7155 Registered: 10-2001 |
Excellent point Brett. I'm just happy no one was killed the other night. He's now saying he was on Ambien. He was "sleep driving".. How'd you like to get a call at 3 in the morning from Police telling you Kennedy ran over someone you loved but he wasn't drunk. Instead he was simply on sleeping medicine.. Kennedy should resign. Another dangerous DUMBOCRAT. | ||
| dave23 Citizen Username: Dave23 Post Number: 1731 Registered: 5-2001 |
Brett's right, but the Kennedeys have been at it longer. Give the Bushes (and Clintons) some time. Laura's already knocked one person off. It's not Kennedy-level, but it's a start. | ||
| Scully Citizen Username: Scully Post Number: 412 Registered: 8-2005 |
Yeah. Her ex-boyfriend at that... | ||
| tjohn Supporter Username: Tjohn Post Number: 4302 Registered: 12-2001  |
The only story here is the possibility that police gave Kennedy special treatment and did not check for intoxication at the time of the accident. Politicians are entitled to the full range of human failings as long as they don't receive preferential treatment. | ||
| Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7157 Registered: 10-2001 |
good point, Tjohn. However, as we all know the Kennedy's have been getting away with murder for years..  | ||
| tjohn Supporter Username: Tjohn Post Number: 4303 Registered: 12-2001 |
No, the rich and politicians, of which the Kennedys are both. | ||
| Bob K Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 11418 Registered: 5-2001 |
Anybody remember GWB's DWI in Maine?  | ||
| crossroads Citizen Username: Crossroads Post Number: 143 Registered: 12-2001  |
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| themp Supporter Username: Themp Post Number: 2854 Registered: 12-2001  |
I think he drove drunk. When will these guys learn that the coverup is what kills you? | ||
| Phenixrising Citizen Username: Phenixrising Post Number: 1606 Registered: 9-2004  |
However, as we all know the Kennedy's have been getting away with murder for years.. Guess Bush has gottten away with the death of 2400 American soldiers eh? Let's include how he ignored the warning signs of 9/11 which caused the death of 2500 innocent American citizens. | ||
| themp Supporter Username: Themp Post Number: 2855 Registered: 12-2001 |
Although I will say this - I haven't seen the phrase "smelled of alcohol" anywhere in the reporting. That is something cops note. But this is a more interesting scandal: http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000551.php | ||
| Phenixrising Citizen Username: Phenixrising Post Number: 1607 Registered: 9-2004 |
George W. Bush and Dick Cheney D.U.I./D.W.I by Alex Hamilton Most people are aware of George W. Bush’s “youthful” indiscretions such as his D.U.I received in Kennebunkport Maine. It is important to realize here that George W. was 30 years old at the time this happened. By the time most people are 30, they are no longer allowed to claim “youth” as an excuse for misjudgment and illegal behavior. In addition, Dick Cheney was picked up twice in Wyoming for driving under the influence of alcohol. Mr. Cheney picked up his badges of honor at the ages of 21, and 22. Bush DUI http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushdui1.html Cheney DUIs http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheney_doc.html | ||
| ffof Citizen Username: Ffof Post Number: 4694 Registered: 5-2001  |
As always, GOPMan is spot on!  | ||
| ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 50 Registered: 2-2006 |
Yeah Themp, it's a much more interesting story, and much more important, but Kennedy's on the front page. I wonder how many of our soldiers and Iraqi women and children are lying in cold graves right now because of the media's lame ••• inability to get their collective tongues unstuck from the bottom of Bush's boots. It's just fine with Straw though. Kennedy kills somebody at Chappaquiddick, Laura bush kills somebody while driving in Texas, W. kills scores of thousands in your name for no good reason. That's good old Republican Christian values. | ||
| LilLB Citizen Username: Lillb Post Number: 1655 Registered: 10-2002 |
I just find it odd that Ted Kennedy named his dog "Splash"....I mean....don't you think he should have found a different name... | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 1515 Registered: 4-2004 |
There's plenty to go around on both sides of the aisle. But the Kennedy compendium is unmatched, IMO. Patrick Kennedy contends he wasn't drunk but using medication; that still means he was driving under the influence. He further stated that he was responding for an emergency vote in Congress, yet the final vote of the day had been completed six hours earlier. Two investigating officers were ordered off the scene by a superior who then had Kennedy chauffered home; there should have been some police statement that he was checked and found unimpaired rather than simply excused. And the one officer who is speaking implicates that the actions were ordered from high up in the dept. It seems like a great deal of police involvement and CYA for a simple ride home. | ||
| dave23 Citizen Username: Dave23 Post Number: 1732 Registered: 5-2001 |
Best headline so far (from TPM Muckraker): "Kennedy: I Wasn't Drinking. I Was High." | ||
| ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 51 Registered: 2-2006 |
 "Kennedy: I Wasn't Drinking. I Was High." pic from Muckraker | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 2076 Registered: 8-2003 |
Brett, there is no defense for some of the things members of the Kennedy family have done. so this isn't to absolve any of them of anything, but just google "Bush family arrest" and see what you come up with. as tjohn points out, these incidents have a tendency to happen among the rich and powerful, regardless of political affiliation. niehter party has a monopoly on bad behavior. | ||
| Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7160 Registered: 10-2001 |
This has nothing to do with President Bush or his family. How ignorant of you to think differently. | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 5588 Registered: 8-2003 |
I would dispute that because Google highlights one story over another (stories written by left-leaning reporters at that) that the number of hits on Bush's run-ins somehow compare with those of the Kennedys. And I also don't believe that the rich and powerful are on the wrong side of the law any more than the general population. LilLB -- Boston Globe has the Capitol Police Union official saying the officers smelled alcohol and weren't allowed to administer a test. "But Lou Cannon, president of the Fraternal Order of Police union that represents the Capitol Police, said last night that officers ''noted an odor of alcohol and that [Kennedy] appeared to be intoxicated." Cannon was not on the scene, but received verbal reports from Capitol Police officers who had talked to the officers who were at the accident site." http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/05/05/rep_kennedy_in_ 3_am_crash_near_capitol/ | ||
| Chris Prenovost Citizen Username: Chris_prenovost Post Number: 862 Registered: 7-2003 |
It's the Hillary Clinton defense: When confronted with overwhelming evidence of illegal and criminal activity, throw mud. Throw lots of mud in every direction, and some of it will stick. Leave it to the media morons to breathlessly and thoughtlessly parrot every innuendo you trot out. So when your boy gets caught driving drunk, er, high, start pointing the finger at the Bush's or the Cheney's. Do not defend your drunk/stoned congressman, point the finger everywhere else. And throw mud. "A rumor is halfway around the world while the truth is still putting it's shoes on." -Twain | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 2077 Registered: 8-2003 |
maybe my point is too subtle for some of you to get. but in many rich and powerful families, the offspring get themselves into trouble. and cjc, the Bush arrests are public record, not the product of some left-leaning minds. Noelle, Jeb Jr, Jeb's wife, George P have all found themsleves in trouble with the law, as has W himself. for some people, if the world is handed to you, it's hard to keep your head on straight. and politiical affiliation doesn't enter into it. if Kennedy is guilty of something he should be prosecuted. but I find it laughable that people who excuse the VP shooting a man are all over Kennedy when the circumstances are almost identical - alleged alcohol use, nearly one day of stonewalling, special treatment from cops, etc. | ||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 1283 Registered: 10-2004 |
Why bother defending this idiot. Theres no reason to pull Bush or any other person into this besides Pat Kennedy. He made an error of judgement and he is paying a political price for it right now. Of course Dr O, I think it would be perfectly appropriate given the number of posts on this topic, to open a new thread for every congressman, senator and of course current president that has had a similar event occur within the past say year. We can do a statistical analysis and see if this is a happenstance that occurs to a) rich b) powerful c) democrats d) republicans e) other That might be interesting. | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 2078 Registered: 8-2003 |
I'm not defending him at all. I'm just pointing out that some other people seem to have different rules depending on party affiliation. I believe this should be investigated and if there's evidence, prosecuted. but calls for Kennedy's resignation should probably hold off until there's a full accounting. | ||
| Darryl Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7161 Registered: 10-2001 |
"maybe my point is too subtle for some of you to get." nope, more like too idiotic.. | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 2079 Registered: 8-2003 |
your overuse of the word "idiotic" has you in serious danger of becoming, as you are fond of saying, "boring." So I took the liberty of looking up some alternatives for you:
I give enough thought to my posts that the least you could do is call them inane or fatuous. | ||
| ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 52 Registered: 2-2006 |
As I was saying but in a quote from TPM: "And, while the Kennedy story is 'newsy' it doesn't really have any greater policy implications. And the public trust implications are minor. Wilkes-Watergate-Hooker story, on the other hand, is both. It's salacious, which the press loves. And it's also directly tied to crooks ripping off taxpayers, probably allowing our service members abroad to have shoddy equipment or defense dollars going to worthless projects. So, we're on the Kennedy case. But why the silence on the much bigger scandal bubbling up out of the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee?" Yeah, why Straw? Must be that lefty media. Maybe Bill Clinton is responsible. Maybe the lawyers are going to use the Hillary defense. Whatever the f#%!k that is. |
