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     sbenois Supporter Username: Sbenois Post Number: 15373 Registered: 10-2001  |
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| anon Supporter Username: Anon Post Number: 2870 Registered: 6-2002 |
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| Southerner Citizen Username: Southerner Post Number: 1328 Registered: 2-2004 |
seb, I've made the same statement several times and then everyone tells me how guys like me won't vote for him. My perfect ticket would be Rudy/McCain in that order. Then after Rudy completes his 2 terms McCain can have his. | ||
| sbenois Supporter Username: Sbenois Post Number: 15376 Registered: 10-2001 |
Sounds perfect to me. Either way. | ||
| anon Supporter Username: Anon Post Number: 2872 Registered: 6-2002 |
Then after Rudy completes his 2 terms McCain can have his. By then McCain will be 100 years old! | ||
| anon Supporter Username: Anon Post Number: 2873 Registered: 6-2002 |
Actually, I couldn't tell who was in the picture. Anything is possible. In 2004, the GOP candidate won the Presidency by carrying Ohio by telling "Christians" that if the Dems won their kids would be recruited by Gays into the "Gay Lifestyle". In 2008, they will run a candidate who called a press conference to tell his wife he was leaving her, moved into an apartment with a gay couple and paraded around the City with his mistress. I want to be listening when the first coservative Evangelical Christian expains to a reporter how she is holding her nose and doing everything she can to avoid barfing as she casts her vote for Hillary Clinton!  | ||
| Southerner Citizen Username: Southerner Post Number: 1330 Registered: 2-2004 |
Anon, You should attend an evangelical church sometime. | ||
| anon Supporter Username: Anon Post Number: 2874 Registered: 6-2002 |
Why? | ||
| Mr. Big Poppa Citizen Username: Big_poppa Post Number: 790 Registered: 7-2004  |
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| Southerner Citizen Username: Southerner Post Number: 1333 Registered: 2-2004 |
Thank you Poppa. I really only have two topics I could actually give a sermon on - 1)How to aggravate libs on MOL, and 2)College Football. Anon, because you might learn something you didn't know which would help you realize Christians don't fit into your little box. But I'd prefer you wake up as shocked as you did in Nov. 2000 and Nov. 2004. I'll add Nov. 2006 in Nov. 2006. | ||
| Joe Citizen Username: Gonets Post Number: 1291 Registered: 2-2004 |
It seems that the Bush campaign was pretty effective in damaging McCain by floating a rumor that McCain's adopted child was the result of an extramarital affair with a black woman w. I imagine if a significan body of the population got up in arms about something like that (in spite of the fact that it was easily disproven) that same group of bumpkins would get out the pitch forks and torches when they learn the facts about Rudy's marital problems. That being said, I could live with Rudy as president, though I'd much prefer McCain. This country would have been so much better off if Republicans weren't so beholding to Bible-thumping bigots and presented McCain as the their candidate in 2000. I probably would have voted for him over Gore. | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 1489 Registered: 7-2005  |
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| Hank Zona Supporter Username: Hankzona Post Number: 5972 Registered: 3-2002  |
Thank you Poppa. I really only have two topics I could actually give a sermon on - 1)How to aggravate libs on MOL, and 2)College Football. if a tree falls in the woods, does it make any noise? if someone tries to "aggravate libs on MOL" and folks skip his posts at this point, does he make any noise? | ||
| Hank Zona Supporter Username: Hankzona Post Number: 5973 Registered: 3-2002 |
by the way, I still wonder if Rudy's first marriage, to his first cousin, will be made an issue of if he runs for President....and if to folks in some parts of the country, that marriage would be seen as a positive thing. | ||
| Eats Shoots & Leaves Citizen Username: Mfpark Post Number: 3534 Registered: 9-2001  |
"This country would have been so much better off if Republicans weren't so beholding to Bible-thumping bigots and presented McCain as the their candidate in 2000." Except that McCain has been totally sucking up to the fundamentalist religious right, both in person (he took a road trip genuflect at Falwell's feet at Liberty Baptist recently) and in policy stands. Before you all anoint him as the next moderate Republican, take a closer look at what he says he now believes and see if it still squares with your more moderate notions. http://www.newsadvance.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=LNA/MGArticle/LNA_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1137834984968&path http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=1779141&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312 http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/3/28/121748/577  | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro  Post Number: 3591 Registered: 5-2004  |
Probably not positive, per se, but definitely acceptable and even convenient for family gatherings! | ||
| Shevya Birdov Citizen Username: Howardt Post Number: 2233 Registered: 11-2004  |
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| Phenixrising Citizen Username: Phenixrising Post Number: 1797 Registered: 9-2004  |
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| Parkbench87 Citizen Username: Parkbench87 Post Number: 4782 Registered: 7-2001  |
Rudy for President?  | ||
| Shevya Birdov Citizen Username: Howardt Post Number: 2234 Registered: 11-2004 |
Rudy? Rudy Giulliani? For President? Speaking as a Democrat, I hope he runs. Maybe he can have Bernie Kerik as his running mate. | ||
| Phenixrising Citizen Username: Phenixrising Post Number: 1798 Registered: 9-2004 |
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| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 10182 Registered: 4-1997  |
At least we can be a more proper police state then. | ||
| Eats Shoots & Leaves Citizen Username: Mfpark Post Number: 3536 Registered: 9-2001 |
What's that deafening silence from all the McCain fans out there in moderate Republican-land? | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 10183 Registered: 4-1997 |
Bush has so lowered the bar, anyone looks good. | ||
| Duncan Supporter Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 6740 Registered: 12-2001  |
Dave...that about sums it up. | ||
| Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7569 Registered: 10-2001 |
Actually, the bar had already hit the floor.  | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 5762 Registered: 8-2003 |
Joe -- if you think that rumor about an extramarital affair is what did in McCain, you're deluding yourself. Opposition to broad based tax cuts (which he now won't rescind), curbing the 1st Amendment via Campaign Finance Reform (which he has to 'fix' again) and his environmental stands are what did him in during the primaries. That, plus his attack on religious conservatives. | ||
| Nuff Sayid Citizen Username: Parkingsux Post Number: 444 Registered: 6-2005  |
marital bliss, and a cigar....  The Clinton Legacy Two Stains I Will Have The Most Ethical Administration Ever. The First Elected President To Be Impeached The First President To Have To Cut A Deal Days Before He Left Office To Avoid Being Indicted This Is What "The People" Want What Is The Meaning Of "Is" The Era Of Big Government Is Over!! I Must Get Back To The People's Work First President to be disbarred (for 5 years) while in office | ||
| Shevya Birdov Citizen Username: Howardt Post Number: 2235 Registered: 11-2004 |
Nuff, I think you're right, Bill Clinton shouldn't be "The Next Presdident of the United States." By George, he CAN'T be the next president of the United States! So move on, please. | ||
| Nuff Sayid Citizen Username: Parkingsux Post Number: 445 Registered: 6-2005 |
Southerner finds this thread funny, too. It's obvious the next president and control of congress will remain with the republicans. You guys just can't agree on anything.... | ||
| themp Supporter Username: Themp Post Number: 3100 Registered: 12-2001  |
We are passing out of the phase of "Liberal" (in the broad sense of that word) Democracy. Rudy is the perfect next president. His contempt for open government and the press makes Bush look like Thomas Jefferson. This is a hugely transformative period. Some will be thrilled, no doubt. We are heading towards a security-based one party state with a very powerful executive branch, where only those limits on the executive's power that can be enforced through some arduous struggle will be acknowledged. Everything else - all the conventions that have become part of our system, are being dumped. Hence the recent signals that Bush will ignore the Supreme Court on Hamden. And "Signing Statement" that basically anounce that the president isn't bound by legislation in any way unless he feels like it. And ignoring the FISA rules. The bluff has been called, and there's nothing Congress can do. So, yes, Rudy will be next prez, and McCain would not (I think) serve under him (Maybe Condi?). And he will be a strongman like Berlesconi or Putin. And afterwards, everything having to do with Congress will just be quant traditions and graft to raise money. We are screwed. If the Dems win Congress, it will not make a difference. | ||
| Shevya Birdov Citizen Username: Howardt Post Number: 2236 Registered: 11-2004 |
themp, THAT'S A HORRIBLE THOUGHT! (But you may be right.) | ||
| mjh Supporter Username: Mjh Post Number: 705 Registered: 5-2001 |
Themp; I have to go take a Prozac now. | ||
| Gregor Samsa Citizen Username: Oldsctls67 Post Number: 560 Registered: 11-2002  |
Will you guys get real please...That is a FIRST Baptist church, the inferior red-headed step child to the SOUTHERN Baptist. | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 2272 Registered: 8-2003  |
Rudy as prez. a scary thought for those who think Bush and Cheney are already trying to consolidate too much power within the executive branch. Rudy was certainly the kind of guy who showed calm and resolve during crises, and people admire his reactions and actions on 9/11 and thereafter. but his last few months in office make people forget the rest of what comes with the Giuliani package. he's also a bully, and a guy who prefers confrontation over other means of engagement. he's also got a paranoid and vindictive streak. he's also not afraid of engaging in some race-baiting if he thinks it will give him an advantage. at best he's a mixed bag - great in a crisis, but all too willing to create a crisis if one doesn't exist. but as Dave says, the bar is now so low post-Bush that Rudy would be a huge improvement. at least he won't be trying to give neck rubs to any foreign leaders at a summit meeting.  | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5306 Registered: 5-2001 |
Pre-9/11 Giuliani's second term was a train wreck. His first term was great, as he capitalized on the national decline in crime with particularly local efforts in the vein of eliminating the squeegee guys. Quality of life definitely picked up during that time. But as the good Doctor notes, he wasn't getting anything done the second term except picking needless fights with anyone who looked crosseyed at him. Plus, a lot of the city was going into lockdown mode even then. If the President of the United States was going to be responsible for getting the snowplows out after a blizzard, or making sure DC zoning regulations were strictly enforced, Giuliani would definitely be your guy. But I wouldn't count on him to successfully negotiate with the leader of another country. Amended: And don't forget his ham-handed attempt to cancel the election so as to stay in office past his elected term. He will have to answer for that, and it won't be pretty. | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 10187 Registered: 4-1997 |
http://www.movingimage.us/cg96/end1031.htm | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5308 Registered: 5-2001 |
from Time magazine's hagiographical "man of the year" story: Emphasis added, of course. If anyone is hoping for all the toughness of Bush but without the incompetence and buffoonery, I wouldn't bet the store on it. | ||
| ML Supporter Username: Ml1 Post Number: 3070 Registered: 5-2002  |
Every time I'm walking near Rockefeller Center I take note of Rudy's endurng legacy -- the annoying and time-wasting Giuliani Barriers that block pedestrians from crossing at certain corners. | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 10188 Registered: 4-1997 |
Remember this one?
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