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     themp Supporter Username: Themp Post Number: 3117 Registered: 12-2001  |
Told you so. In vino veritas. Apologists take note. http://www.geekzone.co.nz/juha/948 | ||
| eliz Supporter Username: Eliz Post Number: 1616 Registered: 5-2001 |
It's actually sickening but I'm glad his ridiculous rant is public and he's exposed for the anti semitic nut job that he is. How long before the audio tapes are public? | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 2594 Registered: 6-2003 |
The problem is , there are a lot of Jews in Hollywood and this human cockaroach named Gibson will have trouble making his drivel and will get more and more bitter, and start saying "THEY'RE" against him . Unfortunately, he has a much bigger audience for his lunatic ravings than his father and a lot of people who you wouldn't expect will start listening to this moron, some even on this board. | ||
| Nancy - LibraryLady Supporter Username: Librarylady Post Number: 3739 Registered: 5-2001  |
Should we bring the conversation over here?? http://www.southorangevillage.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi?tpc=10210&post=663802#POST663 802 | ||
| Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7624 Registered: 10-2001 |
Ukealalio writes: "The problem is , there are a lot of Jews in Hollywood." | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5379 Registered: 5-2001 |
I think implicit in his statement was, "The problem for Gibson is, ..." | ||
| Factvsfiction Citizen Username: Factvsfiction Post Number: 1235 Registered: 4-2006 |
It seems Gibson's major problem is that he was a very conservative religious nut, rather than a very progressive anti-war nut. In the former, no excuse. In the latter, all is forgiven.  | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5381 Registered: 5-2001 |
Slate has helpfully posted annoted copies of the police report. If you'd care to make a case for why Gibson's just-this-side-of-a-hate-crime rant is in some way comparable to being anti-war, maybe you're in the bag, too. | ||
| joel dranove Citizen Username: Jdranove Post Number: 778 Registered: 1-2006 |
should read: "anti-America nut," rather than "anti-war nut." | ||
| Nohero Supporter Username: Nohero Post Number: 5676 Registered: 10-1999  |
Mr. Gibson is not anti-America (didn't you see "The Patriot", fer cryin' out loud). He does have other issues, though. On the otherhand, he has been on record as being not thrilled about our adventures in Iraq. You folks on the conservative side of things, let us know how you work it out. His anti-semitic statments, though - not good, really not good. | ||
| Nancy - LibraryLady Supporter Username: Librarylady Post Number: 3740 Registered: 5-2001 |
Not good? that's the most you can say? It's gonna suck to be him cause now he can't hide his true feelings. | ||
| Nohero Supporter Username: Nohero Post Number: 5678 Registered: 10-1999 |
I tend to understate. "Really, really, bad. Bordering on hatefully psychotic" is how you should read the last line of my previous post. | ||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 1737 Registered: 10-2004  |
well I think he says what he feels deep inside. case closed Gibson has serious issues. It doesnt mean I wont watch Mad Max 17 or Die Hard 88. He is pretty funny and his action flicks are entertaining. I just have to set aside my personal feeling that he is an royal •••• head. | ||
| Wendy Supporter Username: Wendy Post Number: 2848 Registered: 5-2001 |
And if Adolph were still around, doesn't mean I wouldn't hire him to hang some wallpaper. I hear he was quite good at that. Please tell me Hoops that if Mel had said the same thing but about any other group, blacks, asians, etc. you'd feel the same way. | ||
| Nohero Supporter Username: Nohero Post Number: 5679 Registered: 10-1999 |
We must let Mel Brooks (from The Producers) end this part of the discussion: "Hitler was a better painter than Churchill: he could paint a whole apartment in one afternoon, two coats." | ||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 1740 Registered: 10-2004 |
yes. He is a complete •••• head. I didnt intentionally try to mislead you. But he is an actor, there are dozens maybe hundreds of morons in that profession. I dont think I have to check each of their biases and politics before I sit down and try to watch them perform. For you it makes a difference and you cant look at him without being upset, for me I can choose to see the character that he is playing without seeing Gibson the person. clear now? | ||
| tjohn Supporter Username: Tjohn Post Number: 4594 Registered: 12-2001  |
Ahhh, such a principled era we live in. In days gone by, someone like Mel Gibson would be ruined by his behavior, but now we separate the man from his career. Yessirreee Mel, I'm a gonna criticize you real bad for what you said, but don't you worry about the profits from your next movie because I go see it anyway. | ||
| Factvsfiction Citizen Username: Factvsfiction Post Number: 1238 Registered: 4-2006 |
Now he is going to be stuck doing movies like "Love Bug IV" with Lindsey Lohan. "Braveheart" my a@#. | ||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 1742 Registered: 10-2004 |
tjohn  - I have been exposed. A pure unprinicipled mess. - actually I would watch the films on HBO or when they get to network tv but basically you're right. not because of any principal, just because I dont see many movies and his recent movies would probably not appeal to me | ||
| Jersey_Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 1564 Registered: 1-2006  |
And this is to say nothing of his refering to the police woman as "sugar tits." I mean, who says, "sugar tits?" J.B. | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 2595 Registered: 6-2003 |
Straw-I know you have problems with reading comprehension but try a little harder and read my whole post before taking things wildly out of context. I gather you are trying to paint me as an Anti-Semite, better ask my Rabbi about that, I don't think he'd agree with you. You really have this talent for making people laugh when you had no intention of humor. Your accidental wit is made dim by your ignorance. And by the way, I don't believe continuosly ignorant and mean spirited comments count as Mitzvah's, boychik. | ||
| Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7626 Registered: 10-2001 |
Ukealalio writes: "The problem is , there are a lot of Jews in Hollywood." "I gather you are trying to paint me as an Anti-Semite, better ask my Rabbi about that, I don't think he'd agree with you." I still don't see why you believe there's a problem with Jews in Hollywood. | ||
| Eric Wertheim Citizen Username: Bub Post Number: 230 Registered: 1-2005 |
Note to self - "tits" is not screened by the MOL auto-censor Gibson needs to join Cowards Anonymous, where he can learn to speak his mind while sober. Poor baby, he might not hit a $billion before his early retirement from Hymiewood. | ||
| themp Supporter Username: Themp Post Number: 3119 Registered: 12-2001 |
Incredible - some folks who posted here did so without condemning Gibson, but instead tried to criticize others on transparently spurious grounds. Shameful. Insane. | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 2596 Registered: 6-2003 |
OK we'll take this nice and slow. Fact-There are a lot of Jews in Hollywood (I have no problem with that, my cousin was one of them). Fact-They are probably mighty peeved at Gibson right now (understandably), and will avoid dealing with the putz as much as possible. Hinting that he was anti-semetic through a movie is one thing, coming out and spewing his vitriol is another. I don't think he can just explain this kind of behaviour as entirely alcohol induced and when people start shunning him he's gonna get more out of control and lash out at the Jew's again (I can almost guarantee it). I don't have a problem with Jew's in Hollywood but Gibson will and I personally hope they give him hell. Kinda like asking a bunch of Liberal Democrats to be hospitable to a person whose own personal mantra is, "Libs are Morons"  . | ||
| themp Supporter Username: Themp Post Number: 3121 Registered: 12-2001 |
He must have gone into stealth mode when he did his big press blitz for POTC. | ||
| Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7627 Registered: 10-2001 |
Calm down Ukealalio, I was just picking on you. Saying there are alot of "Jews in Hollywood" is kind of like saying there are alot of "African Americans in the NBA." Just pulling your Jewish leg..  For the record, my Rabbi approves of the above post. | ||
| tjohn Supporter Username: Tjohn Post Number: 4604 Registered: 12-2001 |
Uke, The problem I have is the implication that if there were not Jews in Hollywood then Gibson would not be held accountable for his comments. You could well be correct. I think Gibson could well have been speaking from the heart. Alcohol and anger can sometimes remove the filter separating somebody's real feelings from what they actually say. | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave  Post Number: 10278 Registered: 4-1997  |
I guess he drank while directing, too. | ||
| Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7628 Registered: 10-2001 |
Alcohol is an excuse. If he said what he said, there can be no doubt he's a bigot. | ||
| Factvsfiction Citizen Username: Factvsfiction Post Number: 1243 Registered: 4-2006 |
Was Mel drinking Manischewitz? Then he could say it was the Jewish alcohol. | ||
| themp Supporter Username: Themp Post Number: 3124 Registered: 12-2001 |
I always disliked his movies. But the first part of Mad Max, with Goose and the the Nightrider and the camp trailer and Johnny Boy and the Toecutter and the Kawasakis is highly excellent. | ||
| themp Supporter Username: Themp Post Number: 3125 Registered: 12-2001 |
BTW - he only blew .012, right? He wasn't THAT drunk. He's just a XXXhole. "I own Malibu. I will make you regret this." I mean, come on. | ||
| Josh Holtz Citizen Username: Jholtz Post Number: 558 Registered: 4-2004 |
After Passion was released and there were hints of Gibson's anti-semitic views, a reporter asked a Jewish Hollywood executive if it would affect Gibson's future - the executive, who wished to remain nameless, said something like, "if he (Gibson) has a hit on his hands we wouldn't think about refusing him." Jewish or not - Hollywood has no ethics. | ||
| joel dranove Citizen Username: Jdranove Post Number: 785 Registered: 1-2006 |
Wait until South Park does a sequel to its Mel Gibson episode - a classic and accurate understanding. jd | ||
| Factvsfiction Citizen Username: Factvsfiction Post Number: 1247 Registered: 4-2006 |
The truth is that the cops were lying about what Mel said when he was stopped. He was actually speaking aramaic. Bet Mel gets a "Jewish" lawyer and p.r. firm too. | ||
| dave23 Citizen Username: Dave23 Post Number: 1937 Registered: 5-2001 |
Only Christian-hating leftists criticize Mel Gibson and question his beliefs. (Remember those days? They seem so long ago...) | ||
| eliz Supporter Username: Eliz Post Number: 1622 Registered: 5-2001 |
From defamer.com - there's an even better recap but it's so full of expletives the fun would be ruined by the MOL censor. Go to http://www.defamer.com Mel Gibson has had Better Weekends: We're willing to bet that when news of Mel Gibson's DUI bust in Malibu early Friday became public later that day, the still-hungover actor probably had no idea that he would soon remember that initial report of his arrest as one of the happier, more carefree moments of his recent life. Since then, the simple story of "celebrity ingests too much alcohol, drives automobile too fast, and gets semi-embarrassing slap on the wrist from law enforcement officials of rich beach community" has become one of "celebrity ingests too much alcohol, drives automobile too fast, tries to run away from law enforcement officials attempting to give him semi-embarrassing slap on the wrist, is easily recaptured by law enforcement officials, threatens to commit act of sexual aggression against law enforcement officials, claims to own the rich beach community which employs law enforcement officials, promises to use vast financial resources to gain revenge upon law enforcement officials [Ed.note--Deep breath, here come the good parts], expresses belief that people of the Jewish faith are responsible for entirety of armed global conflict, tries to ascertain if law enforcement officials are members of the Jewish faith, notices presence of female law enforcement official, refers to female law enforcement official by epithet suggesting that her mammaries are made of sugar, pantomimes intention to urinate on floor of holding cell, and attempts to destroy malfunctioning phone when it fails to provide a dial tone for his legally mandated post-arrest call." If by now you're wondering what the hell we're talking about, TMZ.com narrates the above events in more straightforward fashion: | ||
| themp Supporter Username: Themp Post Number: 3127 Registered: 12-2001 |
This makes Jon Stewart mandatory tonight (sorry, GOP, check out Dennis Miller instead). | ||
| kathleen Citizen Username: Symbolic Post Number: 608 Registered: 3-2005 |
Did people here really not know Gibson was a bigot and misogynist? Do people believe there was a time in Hollywood when anti-Semites were blacklisted? I think you've got the history a bit backwards here. It's liberal Jews they blacklisted. Has anybody seen Birth of a Nation? To me the thing about Gibson is not that he hurls bigoted insults at LA cops (who probably hear it all the time when they're not talking that way themselves) but that he directs bigoted movies. If I were Gibson's agent, I'd get on the horn to Silvio Berlusconi to ask the former Prime Minister of Italy how he managed to snag the Anti-Defamation League's "Distinguised Statesman Award" a few weeks after saying (while perfectly sober): "Mussolini never killed anyone. Mussolini sent people away on vacation, in internal exile.” (Mussolini introduced "racial" laws in Italy in 1938, which were used to deport some 8,000 Jews to Nazi concentration camps.) I expect Mel to stage a resurrection. |
