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     ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 181 Registered: 2-2006  |
Just watch- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G7gq7GQ71c&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edailykos%2Eco m%2F | ||
| Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7705 Registered: 10-2001 |
holy stupidity..Please allow others to begin threads. You're not very good at it. | ||
| ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 183 Registered: 2-2006 |
This guy's a racist's racist. http://jeffrey-feldman.typepad.com/frameshop/2006/08/frameshop_macac.html#more Of course you love that. | ||
| Nohero Supporter Username: Nohero Post Number: 5735 Registered: 10-1999  |
Ae35unit should probably provide a little context, and/or background info, for folks who might not understand the significance of that Senator George Allen video. For example, there was some news coverage about the guy who was holding the camera, and who was being told "Welcome to America" by Senator Allen, and being addressed as "Macaca" - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/14/AR2006081400589.html This is what he looks like (no Mohawk haircut, by the way) -  The term "Macaca" is apparently an obscure racial slur, which Senator Allen was aware of due to his family background. Okay, carry on ... | ||
| ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 184 Registered: 2-2006 |
Obscure family background with the Klan. | ||
| Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7706 Registered: 10-2001 |
Oh you mean it's a term like Hymietown.. Got it.. Libs are morons. | ||
| sbenois Supporter Username: Sbenois Post Number: 15560 Registered: 10-2001  |
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| ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 185 Registered: 2-2006 |
I think it's clear where Strawberry's sentiments are on this subject. Shame. | ||
| Mr. Big Poppa Citizen Username: Big_poppa Post Number: 848 Registered: 7-2004  |
Sounds like an obvious racial slur. If you can't see that Strawberry, you're probably just confirming your a racist as well. Might as well just come out of the closet with it. | ||
| mwoodwalk Citizen Username: Mwoodwalk Post Number: 574 Registered: 9-2001 |
OK, I just don't get it? Perhaps I'm slow, but I watched the video and don't have any idea what's considered racist. Please explain. | ||
| Elgato Citizen Username: Elgato Post Number: 80 Registered: 2-2004 |
check out the third post | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5505 Registered: 5-2001 |
To paraphrase another web site, Dick Cheney is sitting naked on the White House Lawn throwing flaming dead kittens at homeless veterans, while hitting babies on the head with a ball-peen hammer. The first three words out of Strawberry's mouth are, "but the Democrats..." | ||
| ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 186 Registered: 2-2006 |
My friends, we're in the midst of a war on terror............. | ||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 1895 Registered: 10-2004  |
holy incredible self destruction. I had no idea what maccaca was until I read the 3rd post. Straw your true colors are showing. tom and ae | ||
| notehead Supporter Username: Notehead Post Number: 3714 Registered: 5-2001  |
I think it's time to pull this out again...  | ||
| mwoodwalk Citizen Username: Mwoodwalk Post Number: 576 Registered: 9-2001 |
Isn't the proper pronunciation of macaque something like (and I'm sure I'm butchering the phonetic spelling) maCACK----or at least that's how my college anthropology teacher pronounced it. It is therefore less than obvious to me that Senator Allen was referring to this apparent racist code speak when he referred to maKOCKa. Anyway, clearly I am not attuned to the racism amongst us. | ||
| Ily Citizen Username: Ily Post Number: 258 Registered: 7-2004  |
I'm not feeling the racism here either. However, this guy's running for President and he's going to act like this because some guy is following him around? Real Presidential. Not ready for prime time. | ||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 1916 Registered: 10-2004 |
Apparently neither mwoodwalk or Ily looked at the Jeffrey Feldman site where it stated this in conclusion
I suppose Allens fascination with the confederacy - wearing of a confederate lapel pin in High School, having a noose in his law offices, confederate flags etc is meaningless as well. I think we have much more here then just some minor put down. Allen knew exactly what he was talking about when he called that man macaca. | ||
| Bob K Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 12409 Registered: 5-2001 |
I have never been impressed with Allen. He always comes across as an oily snake oil salesman, in my opinion anyway. I doubt if he knew he was hurling a racist remark at Mr. Sidarth, who was probably choosed by Webb's handlers for the job of shadowing the Allen campaign because he was most likely to upset Allen and friends with his ethnic looks, not to mention the first known "mohawk mullet" haircut. Allen will probably win handily against the turncoat former GOPer Webb. However, I think the incident put the end to Allen's Presidential aspirations which makes me very happy. | ||
| Southerner Citizen Username: Southerner Post Number: 1454 Registered: 2-2004 |
BobK, Hold on before you make a Fojlike prediction. The fact that libs like Hoops are scared to death of this guy bodes well for his political future. I'm not saying he's going to seriously run in 2008, but their is plenty of time for future runs. Hillary is a perfect example of biding time. Regardless of who runs and wins in 2008 (Hillary, McCain, Gore, Rudy, etc, etc), I see Allen and Jeb as a future ticket. Probably 2016 if a Repub wins in '08, or 2012 if a Dem wins. Either way, this current minor episode will be long forgotten. I can already see Hoops screaming, but he wore a confederate lapel pin, you know what that means!! Ily, In case you haven't noticed, Presidential material is in the eye of the voter. Didn't my neo-con half man half monkey whip the proper and upstanding New Englander the other year? Who wasn't ready for prime time? | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5519 Registered: 5-2001 |
Well if you're OK with slinging around racial slurs, I guess you're in the right part of the country. As for whether it will be long-forgotten, ask Trent Lott. He may be able to squeak out a win in Virginia, but the majority of the country has no tolerance for this kind of thing anymore. And leaving aside the racial slur, "welcome to America" was quite a statement to be making to someone who was born and raised in this country. Allen's non-recognition that a non-white person might be an American will not go over well with Native-, Indian-, Korean-, Chinese-, Japanese-, Arab-, African-, Cuban- and any other not-as-white-as-Allen-hyphen-Americans. | ||
| ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 187 Registered: 2-2006 |
I've spent lots of time below the Mason Dixon Line and realize that having a confederate flag in the back window of your pickup truck could mean that you have an obsession with the civil war and that's about it. This guy Allen is a racist. Besides that, I for one have had enough of Presidents who don't know how to act in public. Seriously, would you want Allen giving a shoulder massage to some world leader? | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 2362 Registered: 8-2003  |
it's another divisive tactic of the GOP to state unequivocally that places like NJ or NYC or DC are not the "real America." Real America is, in their view, invariably, rural, Christian, conservative, and overwhelmingly white. If George Allen wants to see the "real America," let him go someplace where the faces are an array of colors in addition to white. | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave  Post Number: 10510 Registered: 4-1997  |
Words that George Allen could have used other than the racial epithet macaca: guy mr hollywood my opponent's cameraperson volunteer for my opponent S.R. Sidarth college guy | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5526 Registered: 5-2001 |
gentleman young man fellow | ||
| Lord Pabulum Citizen Username: Lord_pabulum Post Number: 39 Registered: 7-2006  |
He probably got mixed up with his pet macaw  | ||
| themp Supporter Username: Themp Post Number: 3191 Registered: 12-2001  |
He's too fat to be president. Always looks drunk. | ||
| Robert Livingston Citizen Username: Rob_livingston Post Number: 2027 Registered: 7-2004  |
Allen: "In no way was it meant to demean him, and I'm sorry if he was offended." How's that for a half-assed apology... But guess what? He's an effin liar, too? (Now there's a shocker). http://www.tnr.com/blog/theplank?pid=31575 "Not only is macaque apparently a French slur used to describe North Africans, Allen would have good reason to know it is. His mother is French Tunisian (yeah, that's in North Africa), and Allen speaks French." Another Republican whose true colors get shown as brightly as that bird above. | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 5803 Registered: 8-2003 |
After I finally learned what was offensive, I'm very disappointed. The insinuation that it's only in the South and not cities like NYC, Boston, Detroit, Chicago and the City of Brotherly Love that you get these types of utterances and attitudes that are widespread is hilarious. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5529 Registered: 5-2001 |
What else is hilarious is that there are conservatives on this board still flogging -- even as of this week on this very thread -- Jesse Jackson's notorious "hymietown" remark, which happened 22 years ago, but readily excuse this. Don't think we're excusing Jackson's ancient remark; we're just ignoring you. But you guys are actively defending Allen with "holy stupidity," then chuckling over yet another tired hymietown reference as though it were a clever comeback, a "minor incident" and the all-time favorite, "it happens everywhere." But you want to talk about "hymietown", "macaca" and their consequences? How's this: Jackson's political career was over. So if you want to put it up into that category, be my guest. | ||
| Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7717 Registered: 10-2001 |
Themp has a point. "He's too fat to be president. Always looks drunk." Same issue keeping Ted kennedy out of the White House. (well, that plus a murder) | ||
| themp Supporter Username: Themp Post Number: 3193 Registered: 12-2001 |
Neither should be president. Way to keep it fresh with the Kennedy stuff because I understand he's a strong contender. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5530 Registered: 5-2001 |
Next thing you know they'll be talking about Grover Cleveland's illegitimate child. | ||
| bettyd Citizen Username: Badjtdso Post Number: 271 Registered: 12-2005 |
It was not long ago that Howard Dean was chastised for making the comment that the Democratic party should direct its attention to young, white southern males who drive pick up trucks with confederate flags. He was immediately attacked for making an offensive and stereotypical comment about white southern males. Turns out that George Allen actually drove around in a pick up truck with a confederate flag in his younger years. If Dean should be chastised for making such an offensive and stereotypical comment, then Allen should be chastised for living up (or down) to the stereotype. "Welcome to America." What a jackass. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5531 Registered: 5-2001 |
The Republicans were angry with Dean because he was zeroing in on their target audience. | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 5804 Registered: 8-2003 |
bettyd -- Dean wasn't chastised for saying that Republicans are white and Christian. He said "They all behave the same. They all look the same." Also said they "don't make an honest living." You can hear the same statements right here in Maplewood uttered by Democrats, and they're not addressed to white people of the GOP. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5532 Registered: 5-2001 |
In context:
Which he later amended to "Republican leaders have never made...", which I think is probably quite fair. I understand that this got a lot of white, christian Republicans all riled up. Why don't you find out what the Black Republican House Caucus thinks, or ask a few Black Republican Senators. | ||
| Southerner Citizen Username: Southerner Post Number: 1460 Registered: 2-2004 |
I love this. You libs get so worked up over things you can't control or stop. If you guys are so bigoted towards white southern Christian males then you either don't care that they run everything or your actions don't live up to your words. Carter, Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43. As well as the committee chairmanships. You guys continue to make laughing stocks out of yourselves. While you try and belittle me you are only pointing out your own weakness. You had, less than 2 years ago, an opportunity to act not whine and you got blasted by a white southern christian male. When will you guys wake up! You should be begging Edwards to run! Instead Hillary or Gore? Are you serious? You could run a damn blue painted statue and get the same number of electoral votes as these two could. Continue to play the same stupid game and you will continue to lose in the same stupid way. And I will continue to laugh with my same stupid laugh. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5537 Registered: 5-2001 |
Gore? Since when is Tennessee a northern state? Bush the First was technically a Texas resident but everything else about him was New England. Other than that, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 10514 Registered: 4-1997 |
Language Log on 'macaca' http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003458.html |
