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     Ender Citizen Username: Enderw Post Number: 122 Registered: 4-2006 |
I think the letter is evidence that the moveon.org members have exhibited anti-semitism. I think that the ADL pointed to evidence, specifically saying what I said was referenced - Jew Lieberman. That the moveon.org people apologized for it and removed it (think about their alternatives - yes, we know our readers are inherently anti-Jewish and we are going to allow them to express their views). I was being challenged that "Jew Lieberman" was not being found on moveon.org. The letter accuses them of it and they ADMIT it. There is no question of fact here. The interpretational issue is whether moveon.org's apology was sincere and I guess I could give the ADL the benefit of the doubt, but if you read enough that comes out from Daily Kos and other left-leaning blogs, there is a genuine hatred of Israel. Is anybody out there saying that it was the Republicans who were supporting Ned Lamont and the Democrats who were supporting Lieberman? I think the Moveon.org members, the Daily Kos'ers, the Howard Deaniacs were all full fledged supporters of Ned Lamont, because of his foreign policy stance and opposed to Senator Lieberman because of his. As for believing moveon.org's claim that there were only a few postings out of thousands and that they were mostly non-members, if you believe that then I guess you might believe anything. Spinal tap, if you think the anti-Joe Lieberman sentiment exhibited by many, many members of the Democratic Party is a vast-right wing conspiracy, I think you have been watching too much Michael Moore. | ||
| anon Supporter Username: Anon Post Number: 3061 Registered: 6-2002 |
As for believing moveon.org's claim that there were only a few postings out of thousands and that they were mostly non-members, if you believe that then I guess you might believe anything. Where's your evidence to the contrary? Why does Lieberman remain a Democrat? Do you know that Dean's wife is Jewish and they raised their kids Jewish? Why do most Jews continue to be Democrats? Why are over 90% of the Jews in Congress Democrats? | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5814 Registered: 5-2001 |
moveon.org has shut down the forum entirely because of the difficulty in policing it. But anonymous comments, swiftly removed, hardly qualify the site as a "bastion." The only thing that has been proved is your craven eagerness to believe anything you hear that reflects badly on Democrats. | ||
| ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 211 Registered: 2-2006  |
"The only thing that has been proved is your craven eagerness to believe anything you hear that reflects badly on Democrats." perfect, or at least, real good | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5815 Registered: 5-2001 |
But moreso, if as you would have us believe the comments of anonymous posters on moveon's web site indeed reflects badly on liberalism in general, then what of the tremendous amount of hatred spewed at liberals by the very public and very non-anonymous opinion leaders of the right? Surely if John Doe posting on moveon.org reflects badly on liberalism, doesn't Hannity, Malkin, Coulter, Savage, Limbaugh and the others openly and under their own names proudly advocating the physical intimidation, imprisonment and even murder of liberals reflect a hundred times worse on conservatism? And if, when moveon discovers hateful messages on their board and shuts down the whole board, but hateful messages in conservative media are published and purchased by the cartonful from bookstores, how can you possibly come to any conclusion but that the conservatives are the real problem? | ||
| anon Supporter Username: Anon Post Number: 3064 Registered: 6-2002 |
tom: You don't understand. Hating Jews is bad. Hating liberals is good. | ||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 2123 Registered: 10-2004  |
...that does not compute... ...that does not compute... ...that does not compute... ...that does not compute... [Ender slowly has his memory cells burn to cinders] | ||
| notehead Supporter Username: Notehead Post Number: 3828 Registered: 5-2001  |
Ender: You lose. Completely. If you're going to post that sort of trash, do it elsewhere. | ||
| anon Supporter Username: Anon Post Number: 3067 Registered: 6-2002 |
He/she can post here. We should just ignore him/her. | ||
| S.L.K. 2.0 Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 2069 Registered: 10-2005  |
Tom said: "The only thing that has been proved is your craven eagerness to believe anything you hear that reflects badly on Democrats." Careful Tom, you know all I have to do is switch "Democrats" to "Republicans" or "Conservatives" and your own statement fits you to a T. Also, can you please provide examples of these "cartonful of hate" in bookstores? And it appears you and notey and anon want to do some policing of MOL with your reaction to Ender's post. I don't hate liberals and would be pretty lonely if I started. But I do tend to find them annoying from time to time with their condescending, self-righteous whining. Yeah, I know I know, it has been proven in laboratories across the country that it is impossible for liberals to be hateful or racist, etc... yeah right...keep believing that... -slk | ||
| S.L.K. 2.0 Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 2070 Registered: 10-2005 |
ae35unit- it is ok to lie to the whole world, especially when getting blown in the Oval Office. -SLK | ||
| Spinal Tap Citizen Username: Spinaltap11 Post Number: 199 Registered: 5-2006  |
Ender - It was a joke. | ||
| ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 212 Registered: 2-2006 |
Honestly, SLK, in my humble opinion, and I read the Starr report, Bill Clinton's affair was his own damn business. An unelected liar who apparently has great contempt for the constitution, which is a proxy for all things American, who lies to take the country to war with a nation that was obviously no threat, and puts the country in greater danger every day, a propagandist, well, there just isn't the moral equivalence there that you would like to have us believe. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5818 Registered: 5-2001 |
NewsMax gives away free copies of Ann Coulter's book with a subscription. WorldNetDaily is selling it at a 32% discount. | ||
| westside Citizen Username: Westside Post Number: 22 Registered: 7-2006 |
Well Tom, Mr Scaife has to get rid of his warehouses full of Regnery books somehow! | ||
| S.L.K. 2.0 Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 2071 Registered: 10-2005 |
ae35unit- but bubba lying to the world is our business. No one forced him to go on TV to lie. Wow, you condem one president for allegedly lying while overlooking another who did? Hypocrisy at its best. -SLK and please save me the "it only was a blowjob" canard. If you think this way then the point goes right over your head.... | ||
| ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 214 Registered: 2-2006 |
Man, SLK, you're right, your logic does go right over my head. You're comparing someone who didn't pay a parking meter with a murderer, and saying it's the same thing. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5820 Registered: 5-2001 |
Still image from "PT911":  $40 million dollars and they couldn't hire a proofreader? It's "Madeleine" for cryin' out loud. To quote Kos
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| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5822 Registered: 5-2001 |
This is how it works: http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/9/10/133729/391 | ||
| westside Citizen Username: Westside Post Number: 24 Registered: 7-2006 |
Too bad we don't have a Christian Identity group to raise $40 million for our movie project, eh Tom? | ||
| jamie Citizen Username: Jamie  Post Number: 600 Registered: 6-2001  |
THE FOLLOWING MOVIE IS A DRAMATIZATION THAT IS DRAWN FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES INCLUDING THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT AND OTHER PUBLISHED MATERIALS, AND FROM PERSONAL INTERVIEWS. THE MOVIE IS NOT A DOCUMENTARY. FOR DRAMATIC AND NARRATIVE PURPOSES, THE MOVIE CONTAINS FICTIONALIZED SCENES, COMPOSITE AND REPRESENTATIVE CHARACTERS AND DIALOGUE, AS WELL AS TIME COMPRESSION. | ||
| Jersey_Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 1847 Registered: 1-2006  |
Co-authored by James Frey.  J.B. | ||
| S.L.K. 2.0 Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 2072 Registered: 10-2005 |
i am watching it as I type. Glad to see it made it on the air...so much for Bubba having any leverage.... Let the liberal whi....whoops, I mean "outrage" begin...or should I say continue... -slk | ||
| S.L.K. 2.0 Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 2073 Registered: 10-2005 |
ae35unit- this is the first time I ever heard of some failing to pay a parking meter to almost be impeached and disbarred. -slk | ||
| Kramer Citizen Username: Kramer Post Number: 162 Registered: 9-2002 |
slk - what good does it do for anyone to fictionize events that make up the "Path to 9/11"? You don't feel it's necessary to have all facts? I guess if people accept as a movie and fiction then it's fine. | ||
| S.L.K. 2.0 Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 2075 Registered: 10-2005 |
kramer- ask the producers of the Reagan movie a few years back, "facts" didn't stop them.... yosef is one obssessed dude... -slk | ||
| tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 3933 Registered: 3-2004  |
Is it credible that, when captured in Singapore or wherever that was, that Al Qaeda guy would scream about the two satans, the Pope and America? These guys couldn't have gotten as far as they did by screaming their beliefs and strategies when caught by police. Really. Even I know that!! | ||
| ae35unit Citizen Username: Ae35unit Post Number: 215 Registered: 2-2006 |
"this is the first time I ever heard of some failing to pay a parking meter to almost be impeached" SLK, Clinton was impeached. | ||
| Kramer Citizen Username: Kramer Post Number: 163 Registered: 9-2002 |
SLK - How is the Reagan's movie even comparable to this one? EEESH | ||
| ajc Citizen Username: Ajc Post Number: 5456 Registered: 9-2001  |
...if the next presidents of the United States by chance become Mrs. and Mr. Hillary Clinton... ...we can expect that soon after, by default and their proven failure to act, the next leader of the no longer free world will be none other than OBL and his gang of thugs and murders... What a bunch of bungling fools we had in government during the Clinton Administration. I can see why Clinton, the left, and the rest of these wimps want to kill "The Path to 911"... I suspect there are many more millions of Americans now wishing Clinton paid this much attention on his watch to OBL as he's now paying to this film... What can the rest of the world be thinking of our government to see such a lack of resolve and determination to avenge all the attacks against us...? What message is the left and the peace groups sending by their anti-Bush, anti-war protests? What a disgrace and embarrassment... Our nation is in grave danger if we don’t get serious about taking out these terrorist and the nations that support them. When we see people anywhere on the planet who burn our flag and threaten death to America, we better destroy them before they kill us. Hats off to all the folks at ABC, and God Bless President Bush for taking the fight to them… | ||
| westside Citizen Username: Westside Post Number: 25 Registered: 7-2006 |
By the way ajc, where is OBL? | ||
| Project 37 Citizen Username: Project37 Post Number: 422 Registered: 3-2006  |
Clearly, ajc was the target audience. | ||
| Twokitties Citizen Username: Twokitties Post Number: 517 Registered: 8-2004 |
ajc: Knowingly or not, you are frickin hilarious. | ||
| S.L.K. 2.0 Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 2076 Registered: 10-2005 |
westside- nice post and nice try. Do you think the WOT will come to end if we caught OBL? ae35unit- he was successfully impeached by the House but acquitted by the Senate, so technically he wasn't fully impeached. The movie wasn't despicable but it was boring. I will not continue to watch it tonight. I don't need a movie to tell me that Clinton handled terrorism the same as he handled his extra-marital affairs. Poorly... -SLK I just wish we can come to a consensus that for 30 years up till 9/11 AMERICA has handled terrorism poorly. To try and place the blame on one person, administration, etc. is childishly disengenious. | ||
| Bob K Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 12631 Registered: 5-2001 |
First off, Clinton was impeached. However, he wasn't convicted of the articles of impeachment. I think Clinton was well aware of the problems with terrorism, which is more than can be said about the Bush administration prior to 9/11. The Bushies had their eyes set on Iraq. If Clinton had ordered Bin Laden killed, he would have been impeached again by the highly partisan House. If he had activated, as I have said before, the Afghanistan invasion plan after the Cole bombing, he would have been accused of playing politics. | ||
| Hoops Citizen Username: Hoops Post Number: 2127 Registered: 10-2004 |
Anyone who watched this movie while the Giants were playing the Colts missed a great game for a pile of trash. P37 - I agree, ajc was typical of the target audience and today there are a few hundred thousand ajc's out there thinking what they watched yesterday was truth. | ||
| Straw Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7886 Registered: 10-2001 |
A film about the events leading to 9/11 and the libs say the target audience is Republicans. In other words, the Dems aren't interested in the topic. Libs. | ||
| S.L.K. 2.0 Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 2079 Registered: 10-2005 |
Bob K- I really don't feel like arguing this "much beated dead horse" since all you offer is pure speculation. The truth is Reagan should of done more, Bush 1 should of done more, Clinton should of done more, Dubya should of done more. Being "overly concerned" about terrorism as Clinton was doesn't amount to much if you do little about it. And for the life of me, I will never understand why you Clinton supporters will defend him to no end. He is as culpable as Bush is. And it is because of this stubborness I am skeptical. -SLK | ||
| crabby Citizen Username: Crabbyappleton Post Number: 792 Registered: 1-2004 |
last I checked you defend Bush to no end. | ||
| Project 37 Citizen Username: Project37 Post Number: 425 Registered: 3-2006 |
A film about 9/11 that relies on fictional characters and events in order to suggest that the current administration be absolved of any and all responsibility for the incident (all while hiding beneath the label of "dramatic effect"). In other words, this is right up the target audience's alley. Fibs. |
