| Author | Message | ||
     tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 1185 Registered: 3-2004 |
If you are telling the truth, and you will try to assist, I will repent (?!) | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12022 Registered: 10-2001  |
You must start a new thread saying "I Repent, by Tulip" with a few paragraphs explaining why facts really ARE important and you've been misrepresenting them. You must apologize for the vile language and actions of many of the protesers who spat at the good all white people from Arizona and New Mexico and others, you must apologize to my homey Duncan for he simply wanted to get a bathroom in place for his son and you turned that one somehow into a personal attack on his ethics, you must apologize to Jennifer, and Dave and all the rest of the MOLers who have watched you take what is normally our funnnnnest time of the year and turn it into your own online therapy session, and most of all, you must apologize to Anon who is the sweetest, brightest poster in the whole town. What did you do wrong there? I don't know, but if you apologize to him, then, what could the rest of us possibly complain about any longer? If you do these things, perhaps we'll get down to business. | ||
| Ed May Citizen Username: Edmay Post Number: 2124 Registered: 9-2001  |
Based on spending one week at the convention as an Honorary Delegate from New Jersey, attending the Monday Night Session when the 9/11 ladies and John McCain and Rudy spoke, working as a transportation volunteer loading delegates on and off busses, chatting with protesters all week long starting with the protest parade on Sunday, wandering the Farley Post Office media center, and talking candidly with the print, radio, and TV media, I sensed the large shift towards Bush and predicted in the "New York Times" (see my Personal Journey - Convention Thread on MOL and the MOL thread that was referenced the article) that Bush will defeat Kerry 60:40 on November 2nd. I also think that, with a serious effort (lacking heretofore) that Bush could win New Jersey. I will be working to do so. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12024 Registered: 10-2001 |
Welcome back Eduardo. How was the flight? Did you have a chance to ask Bush where the money for NCLB is? | ||
| jonnyt Citizen Username: Jonnyt Post Number: 87 Registered: 6-2001 |
Such insight. Of course you'd sense a shift to Bush at the REPUBLICAN convention. | ||
| Ed May Citizen Username: Edmay Post Number: 2129 Registered: 9-2001 |
Sbenois - it is great to be back in the greatest two towns in the world! Unfortunately, I did not get a chance to chat with "W" in NYC. I hope to ask him when he campaigns in New Jersey, for I surely will be there working to make his visit(s) a great success. As to the fight, you can read my convention journal on my "Personal Journey" thread here on MOL. My happiest moment was holding my own press conference (Global Vision et al) in the Media Center just after one of Michael Moore's impromptu press conference in the hall. I rebutted Michael Moron's points (hey - that is what much of the media call him!) point by point. One point is why the hell are the media interviewing each other when - hello! - there is a convention going on and actually in session at that moment! | ||
| Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 160 Registered: 12-2003 |
Sbenois, I enjoy your MOL posts by and large, but in this thread, you've been every bit as annoying as Tulip. If you all can't stand her so much, why keep picking fights? Personally, I find the results quite tiresome to wade through...if Tulip is such a ninny, please stop the constant baiting. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12031 Registered: 10-2001 |
Because you are a loyal Devils fan, I will respect your wishes. But if she starts just one more time... | ||
| Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 162 Registered: 12-2003 |
Thanks, sbenois...please stick to the high road. It's not how you win elections, but it is how you maintain an interesting message board. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12032 Registered: 10-2001 |
You know what the real problem is for me? I have no clue as to how to vote in this election. | ||
| Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 163 Registered: 12-2003 |
You know what the real problem is for me? I have no clue as to how to vote in this election. Well, it's no secret whose side I'm on. But you might look at your dilemna this way...the choice isn't simple black and white. You're a fairly well-informed and intelligent person, but there are legitimate positives and negatives to both sides. After some careful thought and consideration, you'll be able to make the best possible decision for your point of view, even if the choices presented aren't all you'd hoped for. One candidate embraces that kind of thought process. The other mocks it. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12033 Registered: 10-2001 |
Fairly? | ||
| singlemalt Citizen Username: Singlemalt Post Number: 312 Registered: 12-2001 |
More bad news for Kerry.... Newsweek has Bush with a 13pt bounce. http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/09-04-200 4/0002244238&EDATE= By the way - I think Sbenois is dead on in most of his commentary. | ||
| tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 1191 Registered: 3-2004 |
Singlemalt: These magazines are not primarily pollsters. They have a bias. Because of that, Newsweek, like Time Mag, may be comparing numbers of "definites" before the convention with numbers of "leaners" after the election. Anyone who took my Survey Research Methods course for senior sociology majors at Seton Hall in the mid 1980's (no lie, singlemalt) would know that it's possible to skew a poll as well as a survey with the slightest change in wording. Read Babbie's Social Research Methods for this background. Maybe you have read it already. Did you take my course? | ||
| Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 164 Registered: 12-2003 |
Nothing wrong with fairly. I mean, if you were wholly well-informed, you'd be voting for Kerry.  | ||
| anon Citizen Username: Anon Post Number: 1353 Registered: 6-2002 |
Siglemalt says: "By the way - I think Sbenois is dead on in most of his commentary." But especially when he posted: "Anon who is the sweetest, brightest poster in the whole town." Boy, my friend, that's going to be hard to live up to. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12034 Registered: 10-2001 |
Kerry is a flawed candidate. He has not distinquished himself in 20 years of Senate service. Edwards is a nothing. The Democratic party has been hijacked by people that Lyndon Johnson would have sneered at for exactly the same reasons that now get Zell Miller ridiculed by most in his party. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12035 Registered: 10-2001 |
I know how to grease the skids... | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12036 Registered: 10-2001 |
Tulip, They lean both ways don't they? Stop trying to find a silver lining where one does not exist. I'm trying Madden. | ||
| tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 1192 Registered: 3-2004 |
Yes, but during a convention, the news of the hour is about Bush. It's fresh in the minds of the respondents, so it's more the front of their minds, and they will be swayed to say they are "leaning" toward Bush. As the "aura" of the convention winds down, you will get a more accurate picture of how the general electorate really thinks. I would advise that no one bank on the percentages right now, as Madden and Maple Man have been saying. Also, pollsters have to be consistent. If they count the "leaners" during a convention, they should count the "leaners" before a convention. As the whole week was about Bush, of course there will appear to be a big jump. |
