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AlleyGater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 1153
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 7:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I love it. You can't debate for cr*p resorting to calling people names (you called me ignorant and Hitler) and lame pictures because you don't have a point. Troll. You are merely a caricature of an intelligent Republican. Nothing more. Now run away and pretend you have friends.
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
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Haight-Strawbury
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 6714
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 8:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't want to debate you. I want you to get help. Plus, not to mention your talking points are amateurish.

For instance, what's the difference between where Republicans and John Kerry stand on gay marriage?

Good luck answering that one.
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maplewood fan
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Username: Mplwfan

Post Number: 278
Registered: 4-2003


Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 8:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Constitutional Amendment - DUH!
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Grrrrrrrrrrr
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Username: Oldsctls67

Post Number: 227
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Straw, I love you man, keep fighting the good fight, but I didn't care much for the Hitler comparison either...No place here for anyone, left or right to invoke that name. AG does seriously need to talk to someone about her issues though...There is something very wrong with her.
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Haight-Strawbury
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 6715
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 10:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is nothing on the books indicating a plan to push for a constitutional amendment. Sorry, your answer is incorrect.

Grr.. Disagree. Allygater is exactly the type of person the Hitler's of the world look to attract.
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tom
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Username: Tom

Post Number: 4291
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 10:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Except for this White House press release: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/02/20040224-2.html

Or this one from the Senate Republican Policy Committee: http://rpc.senate.gov/releases/2003/jd072903.pdf

But other than that, thanks for playing.
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Haight-Strawbury
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 6716
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 10:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nope, still not offering a difference. Saying you believe there should be a constitutional amendment but doing nothing to pursue one doesn't work. Again, the answer is incorrect.

The Republican party and John Kerry do not differ. If up to both, there will never be legalized gay marriage. Sorry Tom, you tried, you fell way short. (as usual)
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AlleyGater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 1154
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 11:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

At least I HAVE talking points. You are just a broken record tossing out red-herrings, and baiting people with half thought out drivel. I can't remember the last time you actually took the time to put together two complete sentences to form a worthwhile thought. Why are you the most loathed individual on MOL, not because of your politics but for your lack of courtesy to others, and your trollish sensibilities. You are a waste of everyone's time. Do me a favor and shut up already.

What is the difference between Bush and a turd? Who the heck cares. I couldn't care less about what Kerry's opinion is about gay marriage. Just because Kerry refused to be pro gay marriage doesn't mean that the Republicans aren't ANTI-GAY. And please, just because Kerry's religious beliefs might have made him side one way or another on a topic doesn't mean that he has to CRAM HIS RELIGIOUS BELIEFS DOWN OUR THROATS. That would be ANTI-AMERICAN, and yet that is what the Republicans are doing.


Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
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algebra2
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Username: Algebra2

Post Number: 3960
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 11:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alley -- you've put a lot of thought into these posts? You state that you hate anyone who doesn't have the same political beliefs as yourself and go on to accuse others of being trolls? You sound like the troll and you also come off as a closed minded bigot.
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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 573
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 8:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

AlleyGater-

I am going to cut you some slack and actually give you some credit. While I don't agree with most of what you say, it is refreshing to finally witness a member of left admit to their own bigotry and prejudices instead of pretending they don't have any.

Now only if the rest of the liberal community begin to be honest about themselves....or at leats publicly and outside thier normal circles....
Start a Revolution or shut the hell up...
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AlleyGater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 1155
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 10:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Coming to your husbands rescue? Does he need your help? Did little ole strawberry need the protection of his mommy? Awwww how sweet.

I'm so glad all of my neighbors came out to play. I knew you would all show up eventually.
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 582
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 10:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alleygater-

That is the best response you can come up with? You sound like someone lashing out after getting run over by the truth...

Alleygater, believe it or not, you cannot pigeonhole ALL Republicans into one neat little package like you have a tendency of doing. If you ever bother to pay attention, there is diverse thought over the other side of the aisle. I know many "Republicans" that can't stand George Bush and the party is split over abortion (many pro-choice Republicans) and the Iraq War.

Another thing I find funny how everyone makes out Bush to be this arch-conservative. NEWSFLASH: he is not....

Although I have a tendency of agreeing with Strawberry on many things, sometimes I think his deliver can be over the top-a little agressive and blunt...but to view all Republicans as "evil" is just plain childish. I bet your Uncle is thankful for you being civil to him. Gee, thanks....

But hey, it is your bigotry you have to deal with...

You wouldn't have to walk on water if you just swam like the rest of us....
Start a Revolution or shut the hell up...
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algebra2
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Username: Algebra2

Post Number: 3961
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 10:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



Alleygater -- you stated you dislike those with a different set of beliefs than your own. I don't think Strawberry needs me, or anyone else, coming to his defense in this debate. Are we neighbors? Funny that I don't judge my neighbors on their political beliefs.
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Haight-Strawbury
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 6717
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 11:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

algebra,

Ignore the troll. She's not well.
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evm
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Username: Evm

Post Number: 312
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 5:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alley-
Your post is disgusting. Get the hell out of this country. Thanks. Bye.
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AlleyGater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 1156
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 6:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

EVM, thanks for the advice. I think I'll just sell my house, pick up my life, run away from the problems because you would like me too. Thanks for the advice. See my comment above about a-holes and opinions, would ya!?!

I'm sorry but you Republicans think that you will be verbally abusive and suddenly people will cower from your displays of greater intelligence. Our country is going down the sh*tter and the Republicans are driving the boat. I realize that my feelings are misplaced I've admitted so, but if I am creating a fun post in the Soapbox I can choose to be creative with how I do that. And here's an F-ing NEWS Flash for you simpletons, there is no specific person who is my Republican neighbor and by that I mean, YOU ARE THE NEIGHBOR I've been talking about all this time. Everyone of you misguided Republicans who live in my community who voted for Bush and continue to support Bush. All of you who still think that the Republicans are steering us in the correct direction. You are all the problem. And while it disgusts and disappoints you all that there are such horrible biggoted people as me living in your community. I AM EQUALLY DISGUSTED WITH YOU LOT.
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
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AlleyGater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 1157
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 6:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Straw, calling me a troll is SO, "the pot calling the kettle black". There you go again with the Projection thing again.

How many people here on this site do you think have been sickened by you over the years? Has anyone ever called you a troll before? I wonder.
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
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evm
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Username: Evm

Post Number: 313
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 4:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

YES I AM YOUR NEIGHBOR AND GET THE F>::-OUT Ignorant fool
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MBJ
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Username: Mbj

Post Number: 113
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 4:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think this Alley clown has received enough attention.

Time for "ignore".
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AlleyGater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 1159
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 9:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I should be so lucky that the unrepentent Republicans would all shut up.
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
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Haight-Strawbury
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 6723
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 11:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Poor Alley.
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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 608
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 7:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How rich, AlleyGayer writes an open scathing letter to all the "evil" Republicans and now she wants them all to shutup...

Mor proof the left wing truly doesn't understand the true notion of "free speech..."
Start a Revolution or shut the hell up...
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Haight-Strawbury
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 6726
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 8:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hard to start a revolution while in therapy.
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cjc
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Username: Cjc

Post Number: 5125
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 2:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

First there's shock, then denial, anger and acceptance.

Alley only has one more level to go.
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Eats Shoots & Leaves
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Username: Mfpark

Post Number: 2979
Registered: 9-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 2:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cjc:

Quick, get the radical right Kook-Aid ready, she is almost prepared to drink it down!
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Shawna
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Username: Lucies_mom

Post Number: 87
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 11:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

alley-

I'm curious- most of the world isn't run by republicans.
Please name countries which you prefer the current governing politicians to ours.
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Dave
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 8531
Registered: 4-1997


Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 11:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

[insert list of nations that don't go to war without good intelligence and, when they do, actually listen to military commanders and send enough troops to get the job done]
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Shawna
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Username: Lucies_mom

Post Number: 90
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 12:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave-

HA!

I don't see the list. Your command supplied a blank list?

Maybe its the "good intelligence" part of the command that confused the computer. Its subjective.


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AlleyGater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 1160
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 7:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do I really need to leave the country in order to find one human being that cares about the poor and needy, other people in general, not doing more harm than good, that isn't greedy and who doesn't want to force their religious beliefs down everyone elses throats? I think there are tons of people who fit that bill right here in our country and are every single one of them is a whole lot smarter than the dim-witted one driving the bus right now.
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tulip
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Username: Braveheart

Post Number: 3142
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 7:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alley: If you replaced your name with mine, this conversation, including the offensive opposition, happened almost to the word a couple of years ago, and to this day.
These people are trivial, superficial, interested in their own bottom line.
Don't get sucked in.
I do admire your direct and articulate attack, however.

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Haight-Strawbury
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 6742
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Saturday, February 4, 2006 - 12:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

when loons collide.
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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 636
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 4, 2006 - 10:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

AlleyGater and tulip sitting in a tree...
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Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen

Post Number: 1459
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 4, 2006 - 10:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ideologies aside, this country appears to have lost whatever social conscience and concepts of social justice it strove to develop, lost them in a morass of "me first" thinking, corporate corruption, and so-called "free market enterprise" spirit.

So the minor-minded free market free-basers get the upper hand, and we watch the intentions not only of the constitution but also of the declaration of independence get gutted by the rapaciousness and sewer-level stupidity of our elected officials, regardless of party.
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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 638
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 4, 2006 - 2:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Innisowen-

I am all for free markets but it appears your last paragraph is the first time I have ever agreed with you on anything!!!!

Scary...

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Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen

Post Number: 1464
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 4, 2006 - 4:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scrotey:

we'll just have to stop meeting like this...
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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 642
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 4, 2006 - 4:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Inny-

I did offer a public discourse over coffee or Guinness a while back didn't I? :-)
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Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen

Post Number: 1468
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 4, 2006 - 4:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, you did.

And in fact when I am finished trying to do my skiing in Vt and come back to "civilization" and work in the office for a while, the "jar" is on me.

And the second one can be on you. And the third one on me, and so forth, until they send us home in a taxi.
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Shawna
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Username: Lucies_mom

Post Number: 91
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 4, 2006 - 4:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do I really need to leave the country in order to find one human being that cares about the poor and needy, other people in general, not doing more harm than good, that isn't greedy and who doesn't want to force their religious beliefs down everyone elses throats?

I don't think so. But you come off like a real whiner when you put it that way. Just do your part and you will find that others will do their part. Lead by example.

I would just like to hear what you think is right about the world rather than what is wrong with it. You sound like a horrible pessimist. I find that working on the good things and expanding good is more effective than trying to fight bad things.

Of course, we all have our positions, it's how you use your energy that makes a difference. Are you going to use energy thinking about the bad things or working on the good things? It's your life, so it's up to you and no one else how you chose to use your energy.
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Scrotis Lo Knows
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 645
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 4, 2006 - 4:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shawna,

I agree but use caution with your advice or Alleygater (and maybe even tulip) will have two eyes of a double shotgun on her "evil Republican neighbors" house!!!!! :-)

Pessimism is ugly isn't it? Especially when people find the silliest ways to justify it.
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Shawna
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Username: Lucies_mom

Post Number: 93
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 4, 2006 - 8:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gee, I hope not! That really wasn't my intention!

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