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John Caffrey
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Username: Jerseyjack

Post Number: 25
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 1:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A new "switchback" with paving stones has been constructed from Locust Grove to the lookout.

Does anyone know its purpose? If it is to accommodate bike riders, it is a disaster waiting to happen when the first biker going downhill encounters the first hiker.
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Jersey Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy

Post Number: 30
Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 3:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I doubt it's to accommodate bike riders. Isn't it illegal to mountain bike in the reservation? Maybe it's to accommodate the cops chasing the bikers in their cars.
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maplewood fan
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Username: Mplwfan

Post Number: 271
Registered: 4-2003


Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 4:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think I heard it was an easier way to find all the chopped up bodies dumped in the reservation.
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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 1390
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 5:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i hope not!
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Case
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Username: Case

Post Number: 1035
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 7:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Incidentally, is it THAT hard to buy 50 pounds of lime?
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Joe R.
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Username: Ragnatela

Post Number: 260
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 7:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John, where is Locust Grove?
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John Caffrey
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Username: Jerseyjack

Post Number: 27
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 8:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Locust Grove is 1/2 block from the Millburn train station. Glen Ave, Millburn.

Yes, it is illegal to ride bikes in the So Mtn. res. but I still see riders. It is unlikely that cops could/would catch them.
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John Caffrey
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Username: Jerseyjack

Post Number: 28
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 8:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Because of the switchback, it is now relatively easy to get to the lookout from the bottom of the quarry area. Try it , its a good, fun 10 minute hike that would be ruined by bikes.
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Tom N
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Username: Tjn

Post Number: 50
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 11:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not familiar with the particular trail but do know that the the most common reason for creating a switchback trail, besides the already mentioned easement of travel, is to prevent erosion.
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optimyst
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Username: Optimyst

Post Number: 141
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 12:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe bike riding is only banned on the trails through the woods, but is allowed on the blacktopped road area.
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Copperfield
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Username: Copperfield

Post Number: 247
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 11:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Get there early on a weekend morning and you'll find lots of mountain bikers crashing through the trails in the woods.

Did they close off the other paths or is the switchback just a new one?
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John Beltsos
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Username: Belts_boy

Post Number: 173
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who cares about bikers. They don't pose a threat as much as the dozens of unleashed dogs. Yesterday a huge black Giant Schnauzer tried to snatch a sandwich out of my 4 year-old son's hand! He was scared to death but of course no apologies from the dog owner bitch.
Another one was strolling with a huge Greyhound and a little bastard. No leashes of course but big smiles of dog owner pride. One even called herself "Mami" when talking to the dogs. "Come to Mami! Stay with Mami." PATHETIC.
There should be huge fines. Rant Rant!

I don't mid the bikers as they are normally quite respectful.
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akb
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Username: Akb

Post Number: 376
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 11:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't mind the bikers or the dogs. I really dislike the open cruising. Our older kids are old enough to get what is going on and it really pisses me off that such a wonderful reserve is being spoiled.

FTR I don't care about gender or orientation. I'd be just as bothered if it was a hangout for hookers.

I don't understand why the cops don't patrol more.
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Crazy_quilter
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Username: Crazy_quilter

Post Number: 133
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 12:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

a female dog is a bitch, but i'm not quite sure if bastard is a term used with dogs.
or are you referring to the dog owner???
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dave23
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Username: Dave23

Post Number: 1266
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 12:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

akb, I'm with you. The NR recently reported that cops are trying to do more. I don't know what that entails or how successful it is, but I hope it yields some results.

If these were women doing the exact same things in exchange for money, people would be a lot more outraged.
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CFA
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Username: Cfa

Post Number: 1550
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 2:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the reservation would be a lot more busy for all the horny married men.
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dave23
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Username: Dave23

Post Number: 1269
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 2:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's true. But I think there are already a lot of horny married men up there.
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Valley_girl
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Username: Valley_girl

Post Number: 106
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 4:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ha ha ha!
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Case
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Username: Case

Post Number: 1038
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 5:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"... no one was stopping to help this poor old woman with a flat tire, so I changed it for her and that's how I got so much mud on both knees of my pants. As to this stuff on my ear - I keep telling you its hair gel!"
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Jay060
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Username: Jay060

Post Number: 136
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 6:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

where can you find a decent map of the reservation?
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James
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Username: Mcgregorj

Post Number: 87
Registered: 7-2003


Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 9:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can get a good map by asking at the Milburn library.
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Dave
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 8483
Registered: 4-1997


Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 9:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

map
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dave23
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Username: Dave23

Post Number: 1271
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There's a good one here. I don't know how well the PDF prints, though.

http://www.somocon.org/Map%20of%20SMR.htm

On another note, someone was kind enough to update Wikipedia's SMR page to include the recent discovery.
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6yearrez
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Username: 6yearrez

Post Number: 129
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 10:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Case, that's the funniest thing I have read in a long time...
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johnny
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Username: Johnny

Post Number: 1567
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 12:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Went from Locust Grove up to lookout recently and there was no trail with paving stones. Not sure what you are talking about? All trails were dirt/leaves/rocky etc.

They did repave walkway from the road up on top to the lookout but that's about it.
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shoshannah
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Username: Shoshannah

Post Number: 1188
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 3:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know the South Mountain Conservancy is doing a lot of work to maintain the trails and prevent erosion. I read that they got a grant.
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johnny
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Username: Johnny

Post Number: 1569
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 1:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I stand corrected. Shoshannah is right that the Conservancy/Reservation was awarded significant grant money, which I think may have been matched by Essex County.

Work on the trails is definitely due to grant $$.
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John Caffrey
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Username: Jerseyjack

Post Number: 55
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 12:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Johnny,

If you can't find the referenced area from Locust Grove, go to the lookout and walk approximately 1/8 mile in a southwesterly direction, going past the old quarry.

There you will find the construction work that has taken place. You may then walk down the terraced pathway to Locust Grove.
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johnny
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Username: Johnny

Post Number: 1572
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 2:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will check it out.
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John Caffrey
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Username: Jerseyjack

Post Number: 60
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 8:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have fun, its stll a great walk.
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mem
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Username: Mem

Post Number: 5772
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 11:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi John Beltsos:

My name is Claudia and I am using my friend mem's account since I don't have one of my own. I am the pathetic bitch with the bastard little dog and the greyhound (who actually belongs to mem). First of all I tried to teach my dog the "heel" command but she didn't get it. I guess the "little bastard" was smart enough to figure out that "stay with mami" (which I told my two kids when they were little (they are now 17 and 15)) meant the same. My dogs do not interfere with anybody's walking pleasure and they do not chase any wildlife.

I cannot believe that you would have that much anger and hate spewing out of you towards somebody you don't even know. Why don't you get a life and figure out what makes you so miserable cause that, my friend, is really what is pathetic. By the way here is a tip from an experienced "Mami". A 4 year old shouldn't eat a sandwich while in a stoller or walking, they can choke. By the way did you notice the 50,000 used condoms that are laying around up there....

So why don't you get a life and enjoy the walk with your child instead of cursing your head of over nothing.


Claudia Mattheiss
South Orange, NJ
cmattheiss@aol.com
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mem
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Username: Mem

Post Number: 5773
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The "mami bitch" has also been a featured guest on Oprah for her work with Katrina and prisons and has won the Villager of the Year Award in S.O. this year.

Thanks Claudia!
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Oldstone
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 551
Registered: 6-2004


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

YGG

mine goes off-leash up there, too. i know he looks menacing.
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mem
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Username: Mem

Post Number: 5775
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 1:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi mem:

Love ya too but it's "Villager of the Month".

Claudia
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mem
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Username: Mem

Post Number: 5777
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 1:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Claudia - Get an account already or you'll be Loser of the Month in my book!

(Edited to add "I'm totally kidding!")

:-)
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Eats Shoots & Leaves
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Username: Mfpark

Post Number: 3050
Registered: 9-2001


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 1:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John Beltsos's flaming language aside (I will forgive him because his son was threatened by a dog--that would make me unreasonable, too), he raises an important issue around here for those of us who own dogs and want a place to take them "off leash" in a space that is safe for them and for others.

We really need somewhere to run dogs off leash in the area where you don't have to be afraid of the dog bolting, or jumping on a kid, or eating a kid's sandwich.
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Oldstone
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 555
Registered: 6-2004


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 1:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i go very early in the morning to minimize encounters with others. otherwise, eats, there is a fenced in dog run at echo lake. too many dogs for me though.
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mem
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Username: Mem

Post Number: 5779
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 1:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Totally agree. A dog park has been promised for ages. However I walk my dogs off leash only on the wooded path and should I go on the tarred path they are leashed. One do has to understand that not everybody is fond of animals and any owner has to be responsible no matter how big or small "the bastard" is. However most of the time I am asked to stop so kids as well as adults can pet the dogs. It is health for a child to learn to interact with an animal and to know how to behave properly. I have seen kids who are scarred to death at 12 and end up screaming and running and should they really be dealing with a loose and aggressive dog this could be serious trouble. Please teach your kids to ask permission to pet an animal and if they are faced with a stray teach them to look to the side or to the ground and walk away slowly. Do not stare at the dog even if they walk away. A direct stare is a sign of aggression between dogs.

Should anybody be interested in doing a little course to teach your kids how to interact I'd be happy to meet you in the park one day and I'll bring the "bastards" and your kids can practise.

I swear this is the last time I'll use your account mem. I am just waiting to get approved.

Best
Claudia
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Stevef
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Username: Stevef

Post Number: 171
Registered: 5-2005


Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 2:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm getting confused.
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 2162
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 2:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mem is just talking to herself.

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