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     The SLK Effect Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 960 Registered: 10-2005 |
...and hip leather jacket at the maplewood train station as I was dropping my wife off this morning who I made sh*t his pants by telling him to throw his empty cigarette pack in the garbage and not on the ground when exiting the train.... Well I said it to him once and he ignored me. I said it to him again and he swore at me. I got out of the car and said it to him again and that is when he sh*t his pants.... How's that for environmental activism folks? Silence kills....Revolt!  -SLK | ||
| Case Citizen Username: Case Post Number: 1210 Registered: 2-2005 |
Actually, that is a great story. I suppose there are reasons for the immense sense of entitlement I see lately, but I'll be damned if I can identify them. Maybe a few public beatings will convince some other folks to 'behave' a little better? | ||
| The SLK Effect Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 963 Registered: 10-2005 |
Case- I am not condoning public beatings ("use your head not your fist unless you are pushed" is my philosopy)even if some do in fact deserve it, just taking a stand when you think something is f**ked up. One of my biggest pet peeves is people not taking proper care of their trash. Throwing it on the ground is telling me to f**k off," which I don't appreciate. I understand your concerns over "entitlement" attitudes and agree. But one thing I am positive about is true "rebellion" is dead. Everyone is a wannabe these days.... Besides everyone gets on this board and vents after a situation like this occurs...Screw that, I took care of it right then and there.... As I said, silence kills.... -SLK | ||
| marie Citizen Username: Marie Post Number: 1404 Registered: 6-2001 |
I believe there is a new and improved littering law in the works for NJ that will carry a heavy fine for "random" littering offenses like the one perpetrated by the leather panted cigarette fiend mentioned above. Not sure when it goes into effect.. | ||
| BGS Citizen Username: Bgs Post Number: 682 Registered: 10-2003 |
SLK- good for you- | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 8808 Registered: 4-1997  |
Trash lines the street like flaws litter my character. Trash trucks come and collect these flaws, take them out of view, so it doesn't look dirty. But although this takes it out of public concern, the trash has to be taken somewhere. You can't just will the trash out of existence, it has to be allowed to fester and decompose. Kerouac | ||
| Buzzsaw Citizen Username: Buzzsaw Post Number: 4056 Registered: 5-2001  |
"I'd rather be thin than famous" kerouac | ||
| Grrrrrrrrrrr Citizen Username: Oldsctls67 Post Number: 331 Registered: 11-2002  |
On more than one occasion my 4 year old son and I have picked up all the trash downtown on the corner where the Bank of America is. He asked me why people didn't put their garbage in the garbage can that's RIGHT THERE, and I couldn't really think of a good way to explain a 4-year old about the sense of entitlement that pervades Maplewood,and how he'll be raised differently. | ||
| Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 3553 Registered: 5-2001  |
 You must be speaking about my cousin Phil (above), whom I picked up this morning at the station. You need to understand about Phil. He has this chronic problem with his pockets: Some years ago, he was arrested at a mall in King of Prussia, PA. He was waiting in a long line to check out a few vintage Spoken Word albums (Ferlinghetti, Burroughs, Corso, the usual suspects...) at Peaches (you know, the music store), and he started jingling the change in his pants pocket. Well, in case you didn't know, King of Prussia is pretty conservative town, and there was this woman with two young kids standing in another long line twenty feet or so away, and she sees (but doesn't hear) Phil jingling those coins, immediately tries to cover her kids' eyes, and calls hysterically for one of the store's rent-a-cops to arrest my cousin for public perversion and liscentious behavior in the prescence of minors. Well, needless to say, Phil was suddenly jumped upon and wrestled to the ground by a burly security guy, and he was so shocked that -- you guessed it -- he soiled his pants. Anyhow, after he and the whole situation were sorted out, he was released with an apology from Peaches. But to this day, anytime he goes anyplace, he makes sure that his pockets are kept empty, and if by chance he somehow forgets, he makes sure to immediately toss whatever is in there, to avoid yet another traumatic episode. In fact, he's become so jumpy that soiling his pants has become a fairly common thing for the poor guy. We in the family, of course, make great hay with his little "issue", and have nicknamed him "Fill 'em up Phil". But that's just a family thing. Hope this helps... -s. | ||
| CFA Citizen Username: Cfa Post Number: 1591 Registered: 5-2001  |
I don't like when people litter, but I don't think it's your place to tell someone. Too bad he didn't beat the •••• out of you for getting into his face. | ||
| Debby Citizen Username: Debby Post Number: 2216 Registered: 5-2001 |
soda  | ||
| Jersey Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 286 Registered: 1-2006  |
SLK, that's almost eco-terrorism. Try this public message solution: Grrrrr and his four year old pick it up in front of him, with the child asking, "Daddy, why don't people put their garbage in the can?" Grrrrr, in Native American headdress, looks at the litterer, "I don't know, son," while a tear rolls down his cheek. "I don't know." -Fade to black- J.B. | ||
| The SLK Effect Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 969 Registered: 10-2005 |
CFA- Always one in the crowd...guess your it.... Live and let live I always say, until your actions negatively affects EVERYONE else. I have a lot of street smarts CFA. I was not worried about this wannabe poseur.... And I didn't get in his face. He was about 15 yards away. My sixth sense told me he would change his tough guy tune as soon as I stepped out of the car. I was right..... And I was also polite about it and until he began using vulgar language.... Don't blame me your too weak in the knees to stand up for what is right. I guess it is much easier just to bitch about it later on the MOL board... -SLK | ||
| The Soulful Mr T Citizen Username: Howardt Post Number: 1570 Registered: 11-2004  |
oh, you mean he REALLY sh*t in his pants? !! It wasn't a figure of speech? | ||
| ajc Citizen Username: Ajc Post Number: 4818 Registered: 9-2001  |
...SLK, a man after my own heart! By chance was it on the Rickelton Square side of the station? That's where I do my best work... | ||
| Case Citizen Username: Case Post Number: 1215 Registered: 2-2005 |
Great job, SLK. If enough people were willing to step up, lots of these 'quality of life' issues would soon fade away. Though I have to admit I'm surprised by CFA's comments. It doesn't seem very tolerant or accepting of SLK's life-choice to protect the environment. | ||
| Scully Citizen Username: Scully Post Number: 192 Registered: 8-2005 |
Way to go SLK! There's absolutely No reason for littering there with a garbage can right there! | ||
| Maplewoody Citizen Username: Maplewoody Post Number: 1146 Registered: 5-2001  |
I hope the Sh*t stayed in his pants, wouldn't want anyone stepping into a pile of human crap on their way to their car. | ||
| Montagnard Citizen Username: Montagnard Post Number: 1897 Registered: 6-2003  |
You did the right thing. | ||
| CFA Citizen Username: Cfa Post Number: 1593 Registered: 5-2001 |
SLK, I am probably the biggest advocate of keeping my neighborhood clean but I go about it the right way. I guess that's one good thing about living in a gated community, we have a Homeowner's Associations to deal the this crap. I don't have to get in anyone's face. | ||
| Scully Citizen Username: Scully Post Number: 195 Registered: 8-2005 |
Are you saying that living in a gated community is going about it the 'right way'? Not a solution for everyone. SLK got his point accross. It's a quality of life thing. | ||
| Case Citizen Username: Case Post Number: 1218 Registered: 2-2005 |
I'm not sure how the gated community would help in this particular situation (keeping a public area clean). | ||
| John Caffrey Citizen Username: Jerseyjack Post Number: 85 Registered: 11-2005 |
I figure we should elect a town council that will legally take care of the problem the way Singapore did a couple of years ago: cane the violators. | ||
| Case Citizen Username: Case Post Number: 1219 Registered: 2-2005 |
How great would that be? | ||
| Joe Citizen Username: Gonets Post Number: 1171 Registered: 2-2004 |
Oh boy a gated community. How can we make our town one? I was hoping for more restrictions and power-drunk, petty bureaucrats in my life. | ||
| Carla Citizen Username: Elbowroom Post Number: 51 Registered: 9-2005  |
From here: http://old.hartfordadvocate.com/articles/litter.html "...the cost of picking up litter, nationwide, has risen to $500 million" This makes it everybody's business. Nice work SLK. If I was there I would have joined you. Can you imagine the guy's reaction if somebody else chimed in "yeah, pick it up buddy!"?? | ||
| Chris Prenovost Citizen Username: Chris_prenovost Post Number: 797 Registered: 7-2003 |
Hear, Hear. | ||
| red Citizen Username: Redy67 Post Number: 5036 Registered: 2-2003  |
what? | ||
| Mayor McCheese Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese Post Number: 949 Registered: 7-2004  |
I actually sort of agree with CFA on this one. I try not to litter, but if I did throw something on the ground and some guy got out of car yelling at me I would proably claim self defense as the reason for taking him out. | ||
| mickey Citizen Username: Mickey Post Number: 410 Registered: 10-2001 |
Why would you throw something on the ground in the first place? | ||
| The SLK Effect Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 972 Registered: 10-2005 |
CFA- a gated community? I rest my case.... -SLK | ||
| GOP Man Citizen Username: Headsup Post Number: 290 Registered: 5-2005  |
SLK sounds like a tough guy, and no pansy litterer is going to stand up to him. Like me, he's a macho guy. Kudos SLK. | ||
| The SLK Effect Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 977 Registered: 10-2005 |
Mayor- Trust me on this one. This guy was not about to "take me out..." And that is not because I am macho.... -SLK | ||
| aquaman Supporter Username: Aquaman Post Number: 764 Registered: 8-2001 |
SLK - Was it really about the litter? Or was it more about you looking for a fight and finding one? Someone throws an empty whatever, so pick it up and toss it in the trash. if you're feeling waggish, you may remark "hey, you forget something! (wink wink)" Here's a suggestion to make a differnce: Pick up a piece of litter every day on the way to the train and toss it in the trash. Not only will you make our town prettier, you're an alchemist! You turn litter into trash! Bravo! Dr. A. Curry | ||
| Joe Citizen Username: Gonets Post Number: 1172 Registered: 2-2004 |
Generally, I think it's a good thing when people confront, in a civil manner, thoughtless acts such as littering. It's best to make people who litter, make blatantly racist statements, fart loudly (take your pick) in public feel uncomfortable about their actions, rather than letting them get away with it. However this can be pretty risky too. I once gave a twenty-something kid a hard time about letting his dog take a crap in the middle of park where kids play LAX and soccer every day. Well, it was evening, there was barely anyone in the park and it turned out that the kid's poor posture obscured the fact that he was pretty damn big. His cute, shaggy dog belied the fact that he was pretty psychotic. Anyway, he turns around, starts walking towards me, asks me who I am, tells me I'm rude and begins a rant that increases in intensity with each step he takes towards me. Meanwhile, the cute dog is beginning to look less cute, and surprisingly menacing as a result of the fact that his master has been whipped into a frenzy, because of something I did. I'm backing up at this point attempting to be concilliatory, lamely with, "It's just that kid's play here." His point was that I should mind my own business. To hammer this point home he asked, "Have you ever been maced?!" And, he began reaching into his jacket pocket. Discretion being the better part of valor, I decided on the course of action that served me so well in my formative years in Brooklyn and ran. As I ran he yelled after me , "You f---in {homophobic expression}. Despite the fact I had put a pretty good distance between him and me (and that I'm also pretty fast), I continued in my cowardice and did not admonish him for his homophobic comment. He no longer struck me as a good audience for constructive criticism. All of this brings me back to the matter of SLK getting out of his car. SLK, What if the kid didn't relent? Had you thought about the possibilities? The one that you seem to think is less likely, that he's capable of defending himself well, could turn out to be the case, and goading people into fights is his way of enjoying a Saturday afternoon. I've known quite a few people like this in my life. Many were scrawny looking, but had wiry strength and the advantage of being masters at the science of inflicting pain. Sure, the Jack wannabe probably wasn't that kind of guy, but what if he doesn't relent anyway? Are you going to beat him up? Believe me, if you did and I heard about it, I certainly wouldn't lose much sleep over it. However you might find yourself in the kind of legal trouble that could adversely affect your ability to pay to live in a community like this. Now that you have responsibilities to people other than yourself, you need to consider those consequences. Not saying you didn't. And I'm not saying I wouldn't have done the same thing, but since that experience in a park a few years back, I'm a little less bold than I used to be. Plus, now I own a home. | ||
| The SLK Effect Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 978 Registered: 10-2005 |
Joe- Thanks for the concern but in 37 years my "street smarts" haven't failed me yet. My grandfather always told me "to always know what is up that tree before you begin barking up it." I live by such words. As I said before, something told me if I got out of my car he would shut up. I was right. If it escalated-who knows, but something told me it wouldn't. Like most, he was all bark. But dude, common sense should tell you to never take on anyone with a dog. You were more macho then I ever could be... -SLK aquaman-wasn't looking for a fight. Call it coutnless times of NOT saying anything boiling over. | ||
| Matt Foley Citizen Username: Mattfoley Post Number: 567 Registered: 6-2004  |
kick his ••• seabass! | ||
| Joe Citizen Username: Gonets Post Number: 1173 Registered: 2-2004 |
But it seemed like such a cute fluffy dog. Anyway, the dog wasn't the real problem. | ||
| CFA Citizen Username: Cfa Post Number: 1596 Registered: 5-2001 |
Aquaman is on the money. | ||
| The SLK Effect Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 985 Registered: 10-2005 |
CFA- I have tried aquaman's passive agressive approach numerous times and have already picked up my share of other's trash over the years. The point of me making this post is not to prove how macho I am (even though I am ). My point is that so many people vent on these boards about similar situations AFTER they happened as if they have regret not doing anything about it when they occured. Stand up, take a stand. Silence kills. -SLK |
