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     ess Citizen Username: Ess Post Number: 1861 Registered: 11-2001  |
Driving up Park Road tonight, I saw a duck standing in the middle of the road looking down at something in the road. Turns out that something was another duck -- who'd been hit by a car. Can we try, just try, to be careful when we drive? This poor duck lost its mate because of someone in too big of a hurry to slow down. GRRRRRRRR!!! | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 767 Registered: 7-2005  |
Bunny on meadowbrook lane...deer and wild turkeys in th ebackyard of our house off of irvington avenue...weird stuff. happens regularly | ||
| Thenewguy Citizen Username: Thenewguy Post Number: 113 Registered: 4-2004 |
We saw the duck Thursday AM on the way to the train station. It was really hard to see. | ||
| las Citizen Username: Las Post Number: 1693 Registered: 10-2003 |
Oh, that's just heartbreaking, ess.  | ||
| cody Citizen Username: Cody Post Number: 998 Registered: 5-2001 |
Oh, that's too bad. I've seen that pair of ducks and enjoyed watching them. Since the duck in that picture is a male, I guess the female was hit. Unfortunately, they have drab colors to protect them as they sit on their nests. Makes them less noticeable. Sadly, it makes them harder for us to see. | ||
| las Citizen Username: Las Post Number: 1695 Registered: 10-2003 |
Oh, no, Cody - this guy was from Lenox Street last week. I just posted the pic because it seemed appropriate at the time. I'm sorry for the confusion. | ||
| Suzanne Ng Citizen Username: Suzanneng Post Number: 742 Registered: 3-2002 |
We have a pair of ducks that visit us each spring. They like to hang out on our covered swimming pool (swimming in the water accumulated on the pool cover) . Sometimes they bring their ducklings... now THAT is cute! | ||
| cody Citizen Username: Cody Post Number: 999 Registered: 5-2001 |
I live in this neighborhood, las, and after I posted I went for a walk and saw that the dead duck was a beautiful male. He is still on the side of the street. I'll call Animal Control tomorrow. He looked just like that picture. That blows my 'hard to see' theory, but I still feel so bad that such a beautiful creature was killed. | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 777 Registered: 7-2005 |
A beautiful creature that leaves a beautiful trail of poop | ||
| cody Citizen Username: Cody Post Number: 1001 Registered: 5-2001 |
It's a duck, Glock, not a Canada goose. | ||
| SO Ref Citizen Username: So_refugee Post Number: 1744 Registered: 2-2005  |
Explains all the duck sauce I drove through last night... | ||
| Mr. Big Poppa Citizen Username: Big_poppa Post Number: 603 Registered: 7-2004  |
SO Ref...  | ||
| Factvsfiction Citizen Username: Factvsfiction Post Number: 157 Registered: 4-2006 |
Some of the people who wouldn't run over a duck in this town would gun it if they saw George Bush. Sad Commentary. | ||
| Tom Reingold Supporter Username: Noglider Post Number: 13946 Registered: 1-2003  |
Strawman alert! | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 781 Registered: 7-2005 |
Strawman?? | ||
| Tom Reingold Supporter Username: Noglider Post Number: 13948 Registered: 1-2003 |
A strawman argument is one where you attribute an extreme position to your opponent in order to knock it down. When you knock down a strawman, you look very strong, but only until we realize how flimsy the strawman was. | ||
| Factvsfiction Citizen Username: Factvsfiction Post Number: 158 Registered: 4-2006 |
tom- Off-base on that one, I was just having some fun. Let's all " Be About the Ducks". Shall we? | ||
| Crazy Guggenheim Citizen Username: Crazyguggenheim Post Number: 887 Registered: 2-2002  |
Call me crazy, but I wanted to be a duck when I grew up!  | ||
| Crazy_quilter Citizen Username: Crazy_quilter Post Number: 277 Registered: 2-2005 |
call me crazy, but i wanted to be a hippie! (sorry Goog, i can't help but steal your tagline, it's so clever)! | ||
| Factvsfiction Citizen Username: Factvsfiction Post Number: 167 Registered: 4-2006 |
Do pigeons have any gravitas here? | ||
| Ima Perplecks Citizen Username: Victor Post Number: 7 Registered: 6-2005 |
The other duck got killed also. Many people think animals move when they see us coming. I didn't see the other duck myself, but I can't help but think he or she was going after his or her mate. Accidents are exactly that, but we should try to be more careful. | ||
| ess Citizen Username: Ess Post Number: 1871 Registered: 11-2001 |
The other duck also got killed? While standing over the dead mate? That is sooo sad. Yes, of course we should be more careful. We shouldn't be driving on these side streets at such a speed that an animal in the road isn't safe. | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 788 Registered: 7-2005 |
I'd gladly hit the animal over swerving and hitting a tree/person. | ||
| Tom Reingold Supporter Username: Noglider Post Number: 13986 Registered: 1-2003 |
Your car also has brakes. Swerving and hitting something or someone would be deemed to be your fault. Swerving implies that you should move at a constant speed. That assumption is incorrect. | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 789 Registered: 7-2005 |
Eh. It's a duck...it's not like most of us here haven't had one for dinner before. Frankly I think this thread is just silly. | ||
| Jane C. Citizen Username: Janegc Post Number: 14 Registered: 11-2004 |
When I saw them lying in the road this morning my first reaction was to wonder who could have been going that fast on a side road. Careless or cruel? Who knows. I appreciate the fact that if you actively mourn roadkill you'll have a very busy life, but I really love to see the ducks pair up in the spring and I'm suprised that people are not more careful of them. I wonder if there isn't a nest of little ones nearby. Sentimental, I know, but there you are. Jane | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 793 Registered: 7-2005 |
I also love how this thread assumes the person wasn't careful, the damn duck could've walked behind the car as a person was K-Turning...no way they woulda' seen it. | ||
| crabby Citizen Username: Crabbyappleton Post Number: 576 Registered: 1-2004 |
My dog killed a duckling in the park once. Well, you would have too if you were a dog and the duckling walked right in front of you! He really just wanted to play with it. He lunged for it and then started tossing it about in the air with glee. Poor broken-necked duckling. The mother squacked for a while. Oh well, that's life in the jungle for ya. | ||
| Ima Perplecks Citizen Username: Victor Post Number: 8 Registered: 6-2005 |
That's the end of this thread for me. | ||
| ess Citizen Username: Ess Post Number: 1873 Registered: 11-2001 |
You'll be sorely missed. Glock, do you think every thread has to have some extreme import? This is about being careful -- which, actually, I do think is important. The implication of this thread, originally, was that people seem to drive too fast and too carelessly on side streets around here. Seeing a dead duck (yeah, ha ha) with a mournful duck near it was sad and just a poignant reminder of carelessness. If cars were going at reasonable, constant speeds, there would be no need to swerve to avoid anything. A simple stop would do. | ||
| Tom Reingold Supporter Username: Noglider Post Number: 13994 Registered: 1-2003 |
And even when travelling at unreasonable speeds, your first reflex should be to stop, not to swerve. I had to hit my brakes hard this morning because I came upon a horse in front of me. This was in Watchung. That was a surprise. | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 795 Registered: 7-2005 |
I didn't say that anyones first reflex was to swerve. I just said that I'd rather hit the thing than swerve out of the way. And in addition to that I'd probably still rather hit the duck than hit the brakes and have the car behind me hit me. | ||
| Tom Reingold Supporter Username: Noglider Post Number: 13996 Registered: 1-2003 |
You have a few things to learn about driving, Glock. There is no reason to fear being hit from behind, unless you are aware that the person behind you is tailgating. And if he is, you should work to get him out from behind you. Hitting the brakes is the normal proper response to any obstacle. Do other maneuvers only after checking to see if it is safe. You do not need to look in the rear view mirrow before you brake. | ||
| The Libertarian Citizen Username: Local_1_crew Post Number: 2010 Registered: 3-2004  |
Hitting the brakes is the normal proper response to any obstacle you couldnt be more wrong. as per usual, you have mistaken your assumed beliefs for fact. this is from the U.S. army driving manual, " If a small animal is in the road, you are better off hitting a small animal than swerving or braking hard and possibly losing control of your vehicle. " from another site: "Do not swerve or brake suddenly to miss small animals crossing the road as this can cause you to lose control, especially on gravel and dirt, but also at high speed on sealed roads. Remember there could be someone travelling very quickly behind you." from the a government safety driving manual: "They can move into the path of a vehicle so quickly that it’s impossible to slow down enough to safely avoid hitting the animal. In this case, you must consider running over it as the safest alternative, even though the crash may damage your vehicle and will likely kill the animal. Concentrate on keeping control of the vehicle before, during, and after the collision. " | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 799 Registered: 7-2005 |
Exactly, what Dad always taught me. Especially since getting hit from behind means I don't have a car for the entire summer | ||
| Tom Reingold Supporter Username: Noglider Post Number: 14014 Registered: 1-2003 |
What does it say to do when a child runs in front of your car in the same way a squirrel tends to do? | ||
| The Libertarian Citizen Username: Local_1_crew Post Number: 2013 Registered: 3-2004 |
Glock,you will quickly learn that many people here think that a shared belief or personal opinion is actually fact. TR being one of the most egregious commiters of this sin. | ||
| The Libertarian Citizen Username: Local_1_crew Post Number: 2014 Registered: 3-2004 |
What does it say to do when a child runs in front of your car in the same way a squirrel tends to do? we are talking about small animals, tom, not children. man up, admit you were wrong, and move on. | ||
| Tom Reingold Supporter Username: Noglider Post Number: 14015 Registered: 1-2003 |
I believe the manual says that. I'm pondering it and will consider it. But I'm trying to process it, so help me out, and see if you can manage to do it without insulting me. Note I haven't provoked you. OK, so I should hit the animal because stopping and swerving would kill or injure someone, or it could cause a collision. OK. Now, is stopping for a child easier to do? If so, then I accept what you're saying. If stopping for a child is just as hard, then are you saying it's OK to cause a collision in order to stop for the child? Actually, my view -- and the law backs me up here -- is that if I stop suddenly and someone hits me from behind, it's his fault, not mine. And stopping suddenly can be for any reason whatsoever. The guy behind me is not supposed to judge my reasoning. He's supposed to be ready for it and stay back. This is different on limited access highways, where stopping is not allowed. | ||
| The Libertarian Citizen Username: Local_1_crew Post Number: 2016 Registered: 3-2004 |
OK, so I should hit the animal because stopping and swerving would kill or injure someone, or it could cause a collision. OK. Now, is stopping for a child easier to do? If so, then I accept what you're saying. If stopping for a child is just as hard, then are you saying it's OK to cause a collision in order to stop for the child? tom, we are talking about small animals, not children. i know you are trying to wriggle out of admitting that the statement you presented to glock as being an empirical truth was actually just your opinion and wrong. this talk of children is just a silly digression and way off the original point. now i have presented documented proof from government sources that you were wrong. stop being silly and either admit you were wrong and move on, or leave the thread in disgrace so that we can laugh at you behind your back. |
