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The Notorious S.L.K.
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1402 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 8:31 pm: |
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Duncan- You are right, I mistyped about "PC killing" Archie Bunker and apologize. There is no reason to get nasty about it. What I meant to type was I that actually I saw a TV special on Caroll O'Connor shortly after his death and the narrator ended the entire show by stating along the lines that "a show like "All in the Family" couldn't exist in this PC World we live in today..." How sad. How true. How right they are. -SLK |
   
Nohero
Supporter Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5388 Registered: 10-1999

| Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 8:58 pm: |
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Quote:... and the narrator ended the entire show by stating along the lines that "a show like "All in the Family" couldn't exist in this PC World we live in today..." How sad. How true. How right they are.
Yeah, like "South Park" can't get away with anything these days ...
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The Notorious S.L.K.
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1404 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 10:18 pm: |
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Nohero- not if Tom Cruise has a say.... ;) -SLK |
   
Just The Aunt
Supporter Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5045 Registered: 1-2004

| Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 11:14 pm: |
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Baj He's talking about James Brown... |
   
Just The Aunt
Supporter Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5046 Registered: 1-2004

| Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 11:15 pm: |
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Pjen George was just as bad! I use to LOVE the Jeffersons! Every so often they're on TVLand... |
   
Mr. Poopa Meathead
Citizen Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 686 Registered: 7-2004

| Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 9:43 am: |
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JBJBJBJBJBJBJBJBJBJBJB!!!!! I just love how you PL'd me on Sunday to advise me a spelling mistake I made last week!!!! Hilarious! I'm in JB's head!!! Wow! So spacious in here.... |
   
james brown
Citizen Username: James_brown
Post Number: 10 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 10:27 am: |
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Well at least you spelled your name right. |
   
Tom Reingold
Supporter Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14262 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 10:39 am: |
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I suspect political correctness would not prevent a show like All In The Family from existing. It was clear enough that Archie Bunker was a model of how NOT to be, just as Bart Simpson is. I think it's sad that parents don't want their kids watching the Simpsons. I'm sure everyone understands that Bart is their role-anti-model.
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Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 332 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 12:25 pm: |
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Dear James Brown: This was your private message to me: Must take alot of balls to call people names,criticize,and put poeple down and do it without ever using your real name.You don't know me, you don't know . Seems to me I may be the only one on maplewoodonline who is willing to do something, take a risk, instead of just filling the net with mindless babble.Stick with the big pooba's, stay with what you know! JB And I am happy to say it again: Stop flattering yourself. My name is Claudia Mattheiss, I volunteer about 20 hours a week in different organisations and South Orange named me Villager of the Month in March 2006 for my effort during "Hurricane Katrina". Get over yourself and "damned right I have balls".
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james brown
Citizen Username: James_brown
Post Number: 11 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 12:48 pm: |
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Wow, you are one tough babe- Let's see some more names of people who are only brave enough to attack people annonamously!how about you BIG POOBA? And don't you undies bunch a little Claudia? |
   
Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 347 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 12:51 pm: |
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Don't you worry about my undies ... and from the sound of your posts you obviously don't have to worry much either... |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 903 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 1:34 pm: |
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Congrats to all of you who made this massive thread drift possible. |
   
james brown
Citizen Username: James_brown
Post Number: 12 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 1:40 pm: |
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Bajou, my balls are fine. But thank you for your concern! You seem like such a nice girl! |
   
james brown
Citizen Username: James_brown
Post Number: 13 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 1:48 pm: |
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Glock, this drift is what they do because a real disscussion of the topic scares them. I came to Maplewoodonline because my wife, who I love a great deal gad been abused and threatened by the gangstas on my block. I told what happened and was immediately goofed on by the resident goof- BIG POOBA. I came looking for understanding, and maybe some compassion and found the Maplewood version of the gong show. Bayjou may be right about one thing, most on this site are only interested in self amusement. I'll bet big pooba could find another way!
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Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 350 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 1:55 pm: |
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James: Continously patting once back is not only unattracked but also weakens the spine.
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Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 351 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 1:57 pm: |
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OOps "unattractive" |
   
james brown
Citizen Username: James_brown
Post Number: 14 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 2:12 pm: |
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Why don' t you try to say something useful, anything. All you do is throw lame insults at me. You seem to be one step up from big pooba. Say something about racism. Thats why I'm being attacked. I had the nerve to say there is as much or more Black racism in this town as White. How about it - got anything REAL to say or more gong show?Cmon you can do it ! |
   
Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 353 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 2:25 pm: |
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Dear James: Please review my recent post on the "16 yr old kid shot in Newark" thread. You accuse me of not posting intelligently but frankly I am just posting in your style. You throw lame insults around all the time.. |
   
Albatross
Citizen Username: Albatross
Post Number: 840 Registered: 9-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 3:01 pm: |
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Well, it's been a lovely drift, but I think I'll take a moment to address Mr. Brown's initial post:
Quote:Before her appointment as principal, the school was a tinder box ready to explode. The racial tension was palpable, menacing and the threat of violence were the rule of the day.
As a 2004 graduate of Columbia High School, I'd like to know what justification you have for that statement. Racial tension remained largely unchanged when Ms. Pollack assumed her position, and at no time before or after her appointment did that tension approach 'tinder box' levels. I was never afraid to go to school; there was no everpresent threat of violence.
Quote:Ms. Pollack has insisted students treat each other and the school with respect, and enforced the rules fairly and without prejudice. Only those who believe themselves to be above the rules struggle. The rest go with the flow.
Rules were not enforced equitably at Columbia. One of the most visible examples is the ID policy, roundly ignored by students, in which familiarity with the administration was worth a lot, and upper level students could get away with complete disregard for the policy.
Quote:From what I have seen in town, Maplewood could use her expertise both at the main library where uncivilized rude behavior is deemed acceptable and at the Maplewood Com. Pool, where chaos rules, while management stands and watches!
May I suggest that you would get a more positive response if you did not malign other township institutions where it is not relevant to your point? |
   
Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 356 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 3:09 pm: |
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Thank you Albatross, my kids don't feel like this either and they are still in school. |
   
james brown
Citizen Username: James_brown
Post Number: 15 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 4:05 pm: |
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It is relevant to the point. Our institutions in maplewood have allowed the inmates to run them. The main library is a zoo Mon - Thurs 3pm. to 5pm. It is being used to warehouse students who don't want to be there.They yell,scream, play their cell phones,and dissrespect the library in every way. The behavior is out of control, and the librarians cannot hope to deal, so they stand by and let it happen. It is not their fault.Many library patrons tell me they will not go or bring their chidren during these hours. That is a fact. I have been told the same by MS.Kennedy. For those who don't know, she runs both libraries in town. As for the pool, lifeguards do not want to be cops -nor should they! Management knows there is a behavior problem, but doesn't seem to be able to deal with it. In a month you can see for yourself. Go look! Both of these situations are real. Ask people who go about the library, they will tell you the truth, go see for yourself. The hilton library had been having security problems but has now solved them. I am told thousands of dollars of notebook computers were stolen from the the main library as well. Towns don't fix themselves. They need help. |
   
Albatross
Citizen Username: Albatross
Post Number: 841 Registered: 9-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 4:45 pm: |
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You were writing to support Ms. Pollack. The management of the library and township pool are not relevant to her performance at Columbia High School. RE: the Maplewood Community Pool. Don't try to dictate to me the conditions at the pool: I am a veteran lifeguard at the MCP. Management and the lifeguards work closely, as co-workers and friends, to make the pool operate smoothly. Lifeguards don't *want* to discipline children, but as MCP staff it is part of our job description. As far as inability to enforce rules: give me a break. You should speak to the people that leave the premises screaming about zealous enforcement of the rules, or the dozens of kids thrown out each year. As a side note, if you find that there are behavior problems that you would like to see addressed, I suggest you contact the management during the pool season instead of maligning them on a public message board. * * * None of this has anything to do with the points I made in response to your post above. You wanted to talk about Columbia High School and Ms. Pollack; I have, but you have not replied. |
   
james brown
Citizen Username: James_brown
Post Number: 17 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 6:03 pm: |
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Hey AL blah blah blah blah blah I'm very happy you have a nice summer job . Glad you think all is well. Let's see what people who don't get paid to put up with the crap think OK? |
   
mjc
Citizen Username: Mjc
Post Number: 1131 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 6:16 pm: |
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jb said: Ms. Pollack has insisted students treat each other and the school with respect, and enforced the rules fairly and without prejudice. Only those who believe themselves to be above the rules struggle. The rest go with the flow. Alb replied: Rules were not enforced equitably at Columbia. One of the most visible examples is the ID policy, roundly ignored by students, in which familiarity with the administration was worth a lot, and upper level students could get away with complete disregard for the policy. I'll second Albatross's description of ID policy enforcement, based on the experience of my 2005 grad son. An "upper level" student, he was never questioned or disciplined for not wearing ID (which he repeatedly lost/misplaced). Also, "treat each other...with respect" IMO does not include daily yelling at the students as they enter the building, about hats, ID, etc. IF these policies have value, surely they can be enforced by taking the offending students aside and administering actual consequences, instead of every student starting every day being treated like suspects, or stray cattle, by staff. (and before anybody comments, I am a mom who always expected my kids to obey school rules or take the consequences, and assumed teachers and staff were in the right until proven otherwise, not someone who sides with my kids no matter what) |
   
Albatross
Citizen Username: Albatross
Post Number: 842 Registered: 9-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 6:31 pm: |
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If you don't like the enviroment at the pool, then don't come. I offered you a way to help with the problems that you see. I'll offer you a couple more: talk to the Pool Advisory Committee. PL me and I'll see that it gets to the right people. I hope you take advantage of these ways that you could help. * * * I repeat: None of this has anything to do with the points I made in response to your post. You wanted to talk about Columbia High School and Ms. Pollack; I have, but you have not replied. What is your justification for the statements you made in your first post? |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 920 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 9:57 pm: |
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I'm gonna' have to agree with the ID policy issue. Grad '05 |
   
Mr. Big Poppa
Citizen Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 688 Registered: 7-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 10:40 pm: |
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JBJBJBJBJBJBJBJBJBJBJB!!! So much attention from you....I feel honored! Albatross, don't bother trying to have a discussion with JB in which you provide some solutions. He won't listen....and then he will try to shout you down. That's his M.O. JB...Grumpy Smurf!!! |
   
Phenixrising
Citizen Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1661 Registered: 9-2004

| Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 8:27 am: |
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You were writing to support Ms. Pollack. The management of the library and township pool are not relevant to her performance at Columbia High School. Albatross, It's called distracting from the truth. Thus, the reference to the library & pool. DITTO to your above comments. My teen is a senior and in his 4 years at CHS, in no way did he feel unsafe at CHS. And yes, the ID program was problematic. JB, Pollack’s brand of administrating polarized and divided the CHS. You have the lower level student feeling that they are being treated differently the the upper level students (ID policy). She exacerbated racial tensions by banning an AA students film, which from my kid and others on this board saw nothing THREATENING in this film. Her statements about AA Fatherless homes go beyond. Her condescending manner and interpretation of providing discipline were more like "BULLYING tactics that was used on the staff & students. and…NO ONE LIKES A BULLY JB!!!
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Just The Aunt
Supporter Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5066 Registered: 1-2004

| Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 10:12 am: |
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You go Claudia!!! Please stick to Maplweood and leave Claudia alone. I have to tell you she has more going for her then you ever will... true you try to make changes, but while you do so in a way that tends to divide people, Claudia brings people together! |
   
james brown
Citizen Username: James_brown
Post Number: 18 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 12:33 pm: |
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Boy o Boy, you babes are really mean, call me names, tell me what I can and cannot say. What am I in RUSSIA? The pool and the library are not distractions from the truth, they are bona fide problems the town has not been able to fix. Have you even gone to check? Or is this just some estrogen RIOT? I was at CHS every day for 3 years to pick up my kid. Were you? I have seen the main library totally out of control- Have you, do you even go? I have stopped going to the pool because I dont like the zoo behavior, and not only have I spoken to pool management but I took a tour around the pool with the manager who acknowledged what was plain to see. The lifeguards are supposed to be ready to save a life- and they do a good job , not act as pool cops. Now that makes sense doesn't it? Which job do you want them to do? Our town has tried to fix what is broken, and be pollitically correct doing it .THAT DOESN'T WORK. The connection between the pool the library, and CHS is just that. CHS is now better because Ms. Pollack did what needed to be done instead of what was deemed pollitically correct. The pool and main library have not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now, you may insult me as you wish, I could care less. I'll take a cue from you and get my head in the sand. |
   
Phenixrising
Citizen Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1667 Registered: 9-2004

| Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 12:44 pm: |
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JB, Did I call you a name? CHS is now better because Ms. Pollack did what needed to be done And what was that? If you call being divisive, using bullying tactics, abrupt and having no respect for your staff & students as better, then I have a cheap bridge I can sell you. Right now CHS is BETTER with her leave of absence.
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Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 361 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 1:31 pm: |
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Hey James: I don't know...maybe I am wrong but you seem to run into alot of problems in life (your street, CHS, the Library, the Pool, let me guess probably Pathmark)...maybe, just maybe...I mean think about it...could there be the slightest chance that it's because of YOU?? However you did bring up soemthing which I think you should consider. MOVINF TO RUSSIA. With my best and kindest regards, Claudia Mattheiss |
   
james brown
Citizen Username: James_brown
Post Number: 20 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 1:32 pm: |
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She responded to the bully tactics already in place. I was there I saw them , and later had to deal with them on my block. Honestly, I'm surprised you don't get it. This town has the most amazing ability to pretend all is well, even when all is ROTTING! Ask the cops, ask the teachers, ask the librarians, for CHRI** sakes why would anyone make this stuff up? All I want is to live in Maplewood in peace. Evidently that's way too much to ask! |
   
mamatamu
Citizen Username: Mamatamu
Post Number: 162 Registered: 7-2002

| Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 1:38 pm: |
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Right now CHS is BETTER with her leave of absence. I second that |
   
mamatamu
Citizen Username: Mamatamu
Post Number: 163 Registered: 7-2002

| Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 1:58 pm: |
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Seems to me that many posters on MOL are preoccupied with race. In fact, the threads that are most popular are all about race. Some how the inadequacies of Renee Pollack are all about race. Some one moves off a street and it's a racial issue. Test scores are all about race. Meanwhile, kids of all races, sit together, ride bikes with one another, curse out loud and litter.. I would not deny that race or color has a lot to do with the perceptions we have of ourselves and of others, but in and of itself..it is not all. The racial issues in this town stem from the adults, not the kids.. I think the great experiment that is SO-M is corrupted by the parents and adults that see color and don't allow their children to judge others by their character. Generally the put-down is about black students, and it comes from both both black and white adults. Sure, the library is an issue, let's figure it out.. I remember when Mr. Bennett was the Library Director, I saw him shooing kids off the steps..very parental like. I have no witness to the activity after school in the library this year, but I do know that middle schoolers of any race are obnoxious. Find some one who can yell at them like their parents... (bell's about to ring..gotta go) ML |
   
Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 363 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 1:59 pm: |
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How do you make a statement "I was there I saw them"?? Are you in CHS?? |
   
Phenixrising
Citizen Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1670 Registered: 9-2004

| Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 3:31 pm: |
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She responded to the bully tactics already in place. I was there I saw them , Bajou, I guess JB must be God. He seems to be EVERYWHERE!!!
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Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 372 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 4:26 pm: |
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Oh god....I mean James! Funny Phoenix
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james brown
Citizen Username: James_brown
Post Number: 21 Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 6:44 pm: |
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DOMINI DOMINI DOMINI- Your'e all catholics now. Bless you my child |
   
Just The Aunt
Supporter Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5072 Registered: 1-2004

| Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 6:55 pm: |
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JB A suggestion for you. Since you don't seem to be getting anywhere with making changes in the behavior of the people around you, have you ever considered moving? How much do you think you can get for your house? You could use what you make on a down payment for a house in another neighborhood or town. |