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Case
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Username: Case

Post Number: 1818
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Sunday, July 2, 2006 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My understanding is that anyone may enter one of those Pennsylvania 'fireworks supermarkets', but that you have to show an out-of-state ID in order to purchase anything besides sparklers.

I have to say, I'm really impressed with this (assuming its true). It's like one big patriotic "bite me" to states neighboring Pennsylvania... and as a long-time cynic and basically horrible person, I have to applaud this kind of "mine's bigger" attitude.

But anyway - does anyone have any fireworks they'll be shooting off soon?
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combustion
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Username: Spontaneous

Post Number: 172
Registered: 4-2006


Posted on Sunday, July 2, 2006 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, like someone's going to post when/where on MOL and then act surprised when the police show up. Actually, if they do post that here, they deserve to get fined.
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Starletta8
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Username: Starletta8

Post Number: 173
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 2, 2006 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just a funny anecdote: there's a fireworks vending tent set up across from the state police barracks in my hometown in Pennsylvania.

The PA laws only changed a few years ago- I can remember people having to drive across the border to Ohio (where anything goes, seriously. I've seen fireworks sold at drive-through liquor stores there.) to get anything but sparklers when I was a kid.

And no, I don't have fireworks. I've NEVER set them off in my life, and don't plan to.
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Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese


Post Number: 1727
Registered: 7-2004


Posted on Sunday, July 2, 2006 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

PA has some fine fireworks for sale if you live out of the state.

I stopped by a fine establishment not too long ago. The 4th of July should be fun.
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K_soze
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Username: K_soze

Post Number: 495
Registered: 11-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 2:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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tulip
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Username: Braveheart

Post Number: 3612
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 6:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nasty, frightening things. Neighbors have them, and won't stop. We'll all go up in flames, that's for sure.
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Case
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Username: Case

Post Number: 1821
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 9:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just re-read my post, and I'm not quite sure where I asked people for their address and 'show schedule'... but I suppose it's implied, seeing as I'm an undercover agent for the NJ Anti-Fireworks Patrol.

Oh well.
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Peter G. Magic
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Username: Pmagic

Post Number: 156
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 9:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, Case, we get ours at South of the Border, when we drive back from Florida. My family is setting them off in back of South Mountain school at 9:30 tonight so we don't conflict with people's plans on July 4th. Everyone is welcome to attend.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1345
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have fun endangering your children and blowing your hands off!
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Peter G. Magic
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Username: Pmagic

Post Number: 158
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, Glock, we will. If Case or anyone tries to stop us we will be armed with bananas!
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro


Post Number: 3469
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Have fun endangering your children and blowing your hands off!"

This from someone whose username is a gun.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1346
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I knew someone would make a comment like that. Guns are much safer than low-quality, unstable explosives that could just as easily go off in your car as in your hand.
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C Bataille
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Username: Nakaille

Post Number: 2696
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And you thought Peter was serious because.....?

Myself, I love sparklers. Always have since my father (who was a firefighter) let me hold them lit when I was a kid.

My kid was reporting that her friend's mother set off firecrackers with her own kid, donned in safety goggles, heavy gloves and closed-toed shoes. I'm glad my kid wasn't there. (I sure hope she wasn't, and maybe this is a 10 year-old tall tale, anyway. Or not.)
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro


Post Number: 3473
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've never known anyone to have fireworks spontaneously go off in their car. Plus, If I had a choice, I'd rather my kids lost a finger to a firecracker than be killed by a gun.

Both, if handled properly by adults, are reasonably safe.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1348
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wouldn't it make more sense to go to the town fireworks in either Mapwood or SO instead of risking your childs health? You are OK with your child losing a finger?


Guns and fireworks are apples and oranges. Get a decent comparison.
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro


Post Number: 3474
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd be just as willing to pull out gory photos of kids killed by guns. Neither of which changes the fact that "Both, if handled properly by adults, are reasonably safe."

the people who give their kids fireworks without explaining to them how to use (or give them to kids too young to understand) them are the same kind people who keep loaded guns in the house.
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro


Post Number: 3475
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I see you changed you post...

ok, Now I'll respond to this one.

For many, the town fireworks are too late. 9-10 pm on a school night? I understand the desire to have them going when it's dark, but I don't want my kids staying up until 10:30 when they have to get up at 7am.

And I never said I am OK with my child losing a finger. I thought you said you graduated from high school. You might need a refresher on reading comprehension. I said given the CHOICE, I'd rather they lost a finger than were killed by a gun.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1349
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It doesn't matter. Guns are fine-tuned, regulated pieces of machinery. They are built with many safety standards in mind.

I guarantee you the fireworks you get are not. Any number of factors (static electricity, heat, friction, being jarred during transport) could set them off. Oh, and did I mention that many of these fireworks are so unstable that they have to be shipped wet and then dried to prevent accidental explosions?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/07/03/fireworks.injuries.ap/index.html

BTW, which schools do your kids go to? Every school I know of is out. So it's ok for your kids to play with explosives and possibly lose appendages...but it's not ok for them to be a little late to school?
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro


Post Number: 3476
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"It doesn't matter" What doesn't matter?

And again, you seem to be unable to read basic sentences. "So it's ok for your kids to play with explosives and possibly lose appendages" Um, no. I'm wondering where you rad this in my post? Perhaps you need to learn the meaning of a strawman argument.
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro


Post Number: 3477
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah, I see you have again changed your post. I give up... you're right.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1350
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I didn't change either of my posts.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1351
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 1:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"the people who give their kids fireworks without explaining to them how to use (or give them to kids too young to understand) them are the same kind people who keep loaded guns in the house."

So a person without kids and a loaded gun in the house is the same as someone with kids who gives them fireworks...that makes no sense.
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro


Post Number: 3478
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 1:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, you did. I get them emailed to me when you hit "submit". Nice try, though. I still have the emails, if you would like copies. Care to correct that post as well?

You first one was originally this:
Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1348
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:27 pm:
lost a finger? Need I break out the link to the gory photos of hands nearly burned off and partially blown off?



Your second one was originally this:
Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1349
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:46 pm:
It doesn't matter. Guns are fine-tuned, regulated pieces of machinery. They are built with many safety standards in mind.

I guarantee you the fireworks you get are not. Any number of factors (static electricity, heat, friction, being jarred during transport) could set them off. Oh, and did I mention that many of these fireworks are so unstable that they have to be shipped wet and then dried to prevent accidental explosions?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/07/03/fireworks.injuries.ap/index.html
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro


Post Number: 3479
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 1:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

See, now you're being intentionally (god, I hope it's intentional for your sake) obtuse. Obivously I meant people who keep loaded guns in the house with kids.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1352
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 1:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I'm off to run some errands. Have fune being arrested when your child gets injured. I'm sure you'll love the endangering the welfare of a minor charge.
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SO Ref
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Username: So_refugee

Post Number: 1946
Registered: 2-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 1:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Open mouth, insert gun foot
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Case
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Username: Case

Post Number: 1823
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 2:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It doesn't matter. Guns are fine-tuned, regulated pieces of machinery. They are built with many safety standards in mind.


What about "guns don't kill people, people kill people"?

LOL - Glock is endlessly entertaining... though I suspect he doesn't mean to be.
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro


Post Number: 3481
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I still love his lie about not changing his posts. No comment from him on that, I see.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1354
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As I said in a post you obviously chose not to read, I had errands to run. I ignored your posting what are supposedly my posts because anyone can do that.

Rastro
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Username: Rastro

Post Number: 3479
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 1:03 pm:
You are an ***, Glock. People who are smarter than me make me mad.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1355
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's not the point of this thread, anyway. The point is that people on this board LOOOVE to pick and choose which laws they want to obey. It's not OK for someone to mow their lawn at 5AM but it is ok for you to set off pyrotechnics in your backyard, which threaten motorists, pedestrians, and neighboring buildings.
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Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese


Post Number: 1729
Registered: 7-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess that is true. But I believe Rastro's. I guess that is the difference.


I'm going to play with some fireworks tonight. It should be a lot of fun. And for anyone worried, there is a better chance of me getting hurt in the car on my way to blow up my fireworks than there is of me getting hurt because of misuse of fireworks.
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Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese


Post Number: 1730
Registered: 7-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was it OK for you to drive down your street one day at 60MPH to prove a point? Talk about picking and choosing laws.

No, it is not OK to wake people up at 5. As you said apples and oranges.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1356
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The difference is that I will acknowledge that it was not OK.
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro


Post Number: 3483
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Glock, you and I both know you posted those. I have the emails for anyone else who is interested. If it really came down to it, I would bet Dave could verify it (though I'm sure he has more important things to do, like pick his toes). Do you really think I (or anyone) would spend the time to:

a) make up post from you?
b) respond to said made up posts?

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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1358
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do I really care? I don't even care enough to think up an answer to my own question.

































Oh, no. It changed?! Boo hoo. Cry about it.
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Case
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Username: Case

Post Number: 1824
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hell Glock, usually you don't care enough to think, period.
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SO Ref
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Username: So_refugee

Post Number: 1952
Registered: 2-2005


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A stunning display of intellect and extemporaneous debating prowess.
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Case
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Username: Case

Post Number: 1825
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

give it 10 minutes, he'll probably change his post again!

In that spirit, here's the post:


Do I really care? I don't even care enough to think up an answer to my own question.
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fabulouswalls
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Username: Fabulouswalls

Post Number: 108
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What was this thread about?
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Mayor McCheese
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Username: Mayor_mccheese


Post Number: 1731
Registered: 7-2004


Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 4:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Everyone was smiling and speaking of times past and times to come. Of times when fireworks were presents from God, not devices of the devil. But the Glock stormed in here like the wicked witch of the west and ruined any fun that was to be had.

That is my story and I'm sticking to it.

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