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Case
Citizen Username: Case
Post Number: 1818 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Sunday, July 2, 2006 - 10:53 pm: |
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My understanding is that anyone may enter one of those Pennsylvania 'fireworks supermarkets', but that you have to show an out-of-state ID in order to purchase anything besides sparklers. I have to say, I'm really impressed with this (assuming its true). It's like one big patriotic "bite me" to states neighboring Pennsylvania... and as a long-time cynic and basically horrible person, I have to applaud this kind of "mine's bigger" attitude. But anyway - does anyone have any fireworks they'll be shooting off soon? |
   
combustion
Citizen Username: Spontaneous
Post Number: 172 Registered: 4-2006

| Posted on Sunday, July 2, 2006 - 10:58 pm: |
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Yeah, like someone's going to post when/where on MOL and then act surprised when the police show up. Actually, if they do post that here, they deserve to get fined. |
   
Starletta8
Supporter Username: Starletta8
Post Number: 173 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 2, 2006 - 11:01 pm: |
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Just a funny anecdote: there's a fireworks vending tent set up across from the state police barracks in my hometown in Pennsylvania. The PA laws only changed a few years ago- I can remember people having to drive across the border to Ohio (where anything goes, seriously. I've seen fireworks sold at drive-through liquor stores there.) to get anything but sparklers when I was a kid. And no, I don't have fireworks. I've NEVER set them off in my life, and don't plan to. |
   
Mayor McCheese
Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1727 Registered: 7-2004

| Posted on Sunday, July 2, 2006 - 11:21 pm: |
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PA has some fine fireworks for sale if you live out of the state. I stopped by a fine establishment not too long ago. The 4th of July should be fun. |
   
K_soze
Citizen Username: K_soze
Post Number: 495 Registered: 11-2005

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 2:55 am: |
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tulip
Citizen Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3612 Registered: 3-2004

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 6:34 am: |
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Nasty, frightening things. Neighbors have them, and won't stop. We'll all go up in flames, that's for sure. |
   
Case
Citizen Username: Case
Post Number: 1821 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 9:17 am: |
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I just re-read my post, and I'm not quite sure where I asked people for their address and 'show schedule'... but I suppose it's implied, seeing as I'm an undercover agent for the NJ Anti-Fireworks Patrol. Oh well. |
   
Peter G. Magic
Citizen Username: Pmagic
Post Number: 156 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 9:31 am: |
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Well, Case, we get ours at South of the Border, when we drive back from Florida. My family is setting them off in back of South Mountain school at 9:30 tonight so we don't conflict with people's plans on July 4th. Everyone is welcome to attend.  |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1345 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 10:57 am: |
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Have fun endangering your children and blowing your hands off! |
   
Peter G. Magic
Citizen Username: Pmagic
Post Number: 158 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 11:11 am: |
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Thanks, Glock, we will. If Case or anyone tries to stop us we will be armed with bananas! |
   
Rastro
Citizen Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3469 Registered: 5-2004

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 11:15 am: |
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"Have fun endangering your children and blowing your hands off!" This from someone whose username is a gun. |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1346 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 11:18 am: |
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I knew someone would make a comment like that. Guns are much safer than low-quality, unstable explosives that could just as easily go off in your car as in your hand. |
   
C Bataille
Citizen Username: Nakaille
Post Number: 2696 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 11:44 am: |
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And you thought Peter was serious because.....? Myself, I love sparklers. Always have since my father (who was a firefighter) let me hold them lit when I was a kid. My kid was reporting that her friend's mother set off firecrackers with her own kid, donned in safety goggles, heavy gloves and closed-toed shoes. I'm glad my kid wasn't there. (I sure hope she wasn't, and maybe this is a 10 year-old tall tale, anyway. Or not.) |
   
Rastro
Citizen Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3473 Registered: 5-2004

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:04 pm: |
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I've never known anyone to have fireworks spontaneously go off in their car. Plus, If I had a choice, I'd rather my kids lost a finger to a firecracker than be killed by a gun. Both, if handled properly by adults, are reasonably safe. |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1348 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:27 pm: |
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Wouldn't it make more sense to go to the town fireworks in either Mapwood or SO instead of risking your childs health? You are OK with your child losing a finger? Guns and fireworks are apples and oranges. Get a decent comparison. |
   
Rastro
Citizen Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3474 Registered: 5-2004

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:35 pm: |
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I'd be just as willing to pull out gory photos of kids killed by guns. Neither of which changes the fact that "Both, if handled properly by adults, are reasonably safe." the people who give their kids fireworks without explaining to them how to use (or give them to kids too young to understand) them are the same kind people who keep loaded guns in the house. |
   
Rastro
Citizen Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3475 Registered: 5-2004

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:41 pm: |
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I see you changed you post... ok, Now I'll respond to this one. For many, the town fireworks are too late. 9-10 pm on a school night? I understand the desire to have them going when it's dark, but I don't want my kids staying up until 10:30 when they have to get up at 7am. And I never said I am OK with my child losing a finger. I thought you said you graduated from high school. You might need a refresher on reading comprehension. I said given the CHOICE, I'd rather they lost a finger than were killed by a gun. |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1349 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:46 pm: |
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It doesn't matter. Guns are fine-tuned, regulated pieces of machinery. They are built with many safety standards in mind. I guarantee you the fireworks you get are not. Any number of factors (static electricity, heat, friction, being jarred during transport) could set them off. Oh, and did I mention that many of these fireworks are so unstable that they have to be shipped wet and then dried to prevent accidental explosions? http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/07/03/fireworks.injuries.ap/index.html BTW, which schools do your kids go to? Every school I know of is out. So it's ok for your kids to play with explosives and possibly lose appendages...but it's not ok for them to be a little late to school? |
   
Rastro
Citizen Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3476 Registered: 5-2004

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:53 pm: |
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"It doesn't matter" What doesn't matter? And again, you seem to be unable to read basic sentences. "So it's ok for your kids to play with explosives and possibly lose appendages" Um, no. I'm wondering where you rad this in my post? Perhaps you need to learn the meaning of a strawman argument. |
   
Rastro
Citizen Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3477 Registered: 5-2004

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:53 pm: |
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Ah, I see you have again changed your post. I give up... you're right. |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1350 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:56 pm: |
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I didn't change either of my posts. |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1351 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 1:00 pm: |
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"the people who give their kids fireworks without explaining to them how to use (or give them to kids too young to understand) them are the same kind people who keep loaded guns in the house." So a person without kids and a loaded gun in the house is the same as someone with kids who gives them fireworks...that makes no sense.
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Rastro
Citizen Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3478 Registered: 5-2004

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 1:02 pm: |
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Yes, you did. I get them emailed to me when you hit "submit". Nice try, though. I still have the emails, if you would like copies. Care to correct that post as well? You first one was originally this: Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 1348 Registered: 7-2005 Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:27 pm: lost a finger? Need I break out the link to the gory photos of hands nearly burned off and partially blown off? Your second one was originally this: Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 1349 Registered: 7-2005 Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 12:46 pm: It doesn't matter. Guns are fine-tuned, regulated pieces of machinery. They are built with many safety standards in mind. I guarantee you the fireworks you get are not. Any number of factors (static electricity, heat, friction, being jarred during transport) could set them off. Oh, and did I mention that many of these fireworks are so unstable that they have to be shipped wet and then dried to prevent accidental explosions? http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/07/03/fireworks.injuries.ap/index.html |
   
Rastro
Citizen Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3479 Registered: 5-2004

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 1:03 pm: |
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See, now you're being intentionally (god, I hope it's intentional for your sake) obtuse. Obivously I meant people who keep loaded guns in the house with kids. |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1352 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 1:17 pm: |
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Well, I'm off to run some errands. Have fune being arrested when your child gets injured. I'm sure you'll love the endangering the welfare of a minor charge. |
   
SO Ref
Citizen Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 1946 Registered: 2-2005

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 1:45 pm: |
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Open mouth, insert gun foot |
   
Case
Citizen Username: Case
Post Number: 1823 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 2:20 pm: |
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It doesn't matter. Guns are fine-tuned, regulated pieces of machinery. They are built with many safety standards in mind. What about "guns don't kill people, people kill people"? LOL - Glock is endlessly entertaining... though I suspect he doesn't mean to be. |
   
Rastro
Citizen Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3481 Registered: 5-2004

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:03 pm: |
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I still love his lie about not changing his posts. No comment from him on that, I see. |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1354 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:13 pm: |
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As I said in a post you obviously chose not to read, I had errands to run. I ignored your posting what are supposedly my posts because anyone can do that. Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 3479 Registered: 5-2004 Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 1:03 pm: You are an ***, Glock. People who are smarter than me make me mad. |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1355 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:17 pm: |
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That's not the point of this thread, anyway. The point is that people on this board LOOOVE to pick and choose which laws they want to obey. It's not OK for someone to mow their lawn at 5AM but it is ok for you to set off pyrotechnics in your backyard, which threaten motorists, pedestrians, and neighboring buildings. |
   
Mayor McCheese
Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1729 Registered: 7-2004

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:19 pm: |
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I guess that is true. But I believe Rastro's. I guess that is the difference. I'm going to play with some fireworks tonight. It should be a lot of fun. And for anyone worried, there is a better chance of me getting hurt in the car on my way to blow up my fireworks than there is of me getting hurt because of misuse of fireworks. |
   
Mayor McCheese
Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1730 Registered: 7-2004

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:21 pm: |
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Was it OK for you to drive down your street one day at 60MPH to prove a point? Talk about picking and choosing laws. No, it is not OK to wake people up at 5. As you said apples and oranges. |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1356 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:26 pm: |
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The difference is that I will acknowledge that it was not OK. |
   
Rastro
Citizen Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3483 Registered: 5-2004

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:28 pm: |
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Glock, you and I both know you posted those. I have the emails for anyone else who is interested. If it really came down to it, I would bet Dave could verify it (though I'm sure he has more important things to do, like pick his toes). Do you really think I (or anyone) would spend the time to: a) make up post from you? b) respond to said made up posts?
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Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1358 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:45 pm: |
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Do I really care? I don't even care enough to think up an answer to my own question. Oh, no. It changed?! Boo hoo. Cry about it. |
   
Case
Citizen Username: Case
Post Number: 1824 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:49 pm: |
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Hell Glock, usually you don't care enough to think, period. |
   
SO Ref
Citizen Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 1952 Registered: 2-2005

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:50 pm: |
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A stunning display of intellect and extemporaneous debating prowess. |
   
Case
Citizen Username: Case
Post Number: 1825 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:54 pm: |
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give it 10 minutes, he'll probably change his post again! In that spirit, here's the post: Do I really care? I don't even care enough to think up an answer to my own question. |
   
fabulouswalls
Citizen Username: Fabulouswalls
Post Number: 108 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 3:59 pm: |
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What was this thread about? |
   
Mayor McCheese
Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1731 Registered: 7-2004

| Posted on Monday, July 3, 2006 - 4:41 pm: |
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Everyone was smiling and speaking of times past and times to come. Of times when fireworks were presents from God, not devices of the devil. But the Glock stormed in here like the wicked witch of the west and ruined any fun that was to be had. That is my story and I'm sticking to it. |