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S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1937 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 12:58 pm: |
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RL, fine 35mph, are you suggesting that it is safer than a car sitting still? -SLK |
   
Robert Livingston
Citizen Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 2046 Registered: 7-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 12:59 pm: |
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"The next time you pick up your {SELF ADMITTED) "kinky wife" from outside the front of my house.." Scrote: I don't get it. What are you implying, that you are cheating on your wife? Man, you are some prize... |
   
Wendyn
Supporter Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 3240 Registered: 9-2002

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 12:59 pm: |
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Frankly I am sometimes NOT a good judge of whether I've taken appropriate precautions when it comes to my children. Once I left my toddler and infant in a room together, infant on the floor. I was out of the room for less than a minute. When I walked back in I saw my toddler rolling my infant on the floor singing "roll o-ver, roll o-ver". Funny? You bet. Wouldn't have been as funny if toddler decided to give baby something to eat or drink. Or rolled her into a piece of furniture. I learned that they were too young to be left alone together. Once I let my toddler go into the fenced back yard while I went back to get my shoes. When I came out toddler was inspecting and about to taste the dog poop. Lesson, don't let her out in the back yard without constant supervision. Once I left the kids in the car in the garage while I ran back inside to grab something. Left the keys in the car (not running, even I'm not that stupid). Toddler managed to unbuckle her car seat (for the first time ever) and lock the car from the inside (accidentally). Lesson: D'OH! I'm a moron! What I'm saying is that if your situation happened to me, I wouldn't want to vent about it. I'd want to crawl away in the shame of realizing that harm could have come to my kids even though I thought I was being pretty careful. We all do stupid things that could potentially put our kids in harm's way. Some of us react differently when being told that our kids could be in a dangerous situation. |
   
Hoops
Citizen Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1989 Registered: 10-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 1:00 pm: |
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themp - slk went into the cleaners to do business. It means that he would be required to not keep an eye on them at least momentarily. The windows were closed and the car locked btw. The risk, stolen car, maybe the 2 1/2 year old gets scared of being alone or finds something in the carseat that might be harmful if swallowed or maybe cut himself. There are a number of things that could happen while away and I am sure that you could figure those out as well. The risk was not great but it was a risk.
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The Oracle of MOL
Supporter Username: Oracle_of_mol
Post Number: 249 Registered: 2-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 1:14 pm: |
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Soda is still suspended. --The Oracle of MOL |
   
Oldstone
Citizen Username: Rogers4317
Post Number: 923 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 1:16 pm: |
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wow slk, this is like the most popular thread on MOL...that must mean that you are one of the most popular people on MOL. how does it feel to be a star, can you stand it?  |
   
MeAndTheBoys
Citizen Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 4423 Registered: 12-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 1:17 pm: |
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Hey SLK, what say we meet at The Gate this afternoon for drinks and such. We'll leave all the kids locked up together in my truck so they can have their own private little party. And we'll leave them the keys and maybe the 8-year-old can take everyone for a drive if they get bored! Whaddya say? |
   
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1939 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 1:29 pm: |
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MATB- Only if my kids can bring the crack! -SLK |
   
MeAndTheBoys
Citizen Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 4424 Registered: 12-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 1:34 pm: |
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Sure thing. And my kids'll bring the heroine and they can share! After all, even Barney advocates sharing! |
   
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 2385 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 1:58 pm: |
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Quote:Sorry to say you are wrong once again. I started this thread to vent, pure and simple. I ended my post with such a comment because it was inevitable that someone was going to try and nail me. But judging by this thread, I am pretty much spot on, huh? The self-righteous did come out in droves.
I don't believe you. I think you enjoy seeing if you can get responses that confirm your belief that our town is filled with "self-righteous" lefty PC busybodies. And judging by this thread, you got at least as many people supporting you (if not more) than you got jumping on your case. so what does it prove? I don't know. Maybe just that you'll get two sides to respond to almost any issue. so you got some of what you call "self-righteous" responses. self-righteousness is, like so many other things, in the eye of the beholder. you know, some people might consider it self-righteous if a person gets in another's face over dropping a cigarette pack on the ground. To each his own. fwiw, I don't think it's bad parenting to leave the kids in the car for 2 minutes within your field of vision. but I think you're whining way too much because a person overreacted and called the cops because he thought there was a chance that your kids were in a bit of danger. |
   
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1940 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:04 pm: |
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Dr- Oh, you don't believe me. That is a new concept. -SLK |
   
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 2386 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:09 pm: |
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why should anyone? why would a person start a thread to "vent" knowing full well he expects a "crucifixion" if on some level he wasn't trolling for the "self-righteous" responses? or should I say why would a logical person do that... |
   
Dave
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 10632 Registered: 4-1997

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:11 pm: |
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The guy in the van who wasted a police officer's time was a lefty pc busybody. He knew very well it was a quick stop and drop, but he couldn't put events into context and became overwhelmed with a sense of self-importance. He probably dislikes the police, as well, so it was a win-win for him.  |
   
Oldstone
Citizen Username: Rogers4317
Post Number: 930 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:12 pm: |
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doc, the person may also have just felt like being a dick (because his wife pissed him off or some other atrocity)...which wouldn't surprise me around here. the fact that he took the route of calling the police on a guy staring at his car full of babies 20 feet away but inside the cleaners could point to the fact that he had an ax to grind. slk whined once...in his initial post. just like he said he would. |
   
themp
Supporter Username: Themp
Post Number: 3226 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:17 pm: |
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Car stolen seems to be the only marginally meaningful danger. Now check theft rates of cars in Gleason's lot during business hours. I am not buying it. Friend just got back from a year in Berlin. He talked about the strollers lines up outside the cafes in the gently falling rain WITH THE KIDS STILL IN THEM while mom has coffe inside. In Italy, they put babies to sleep on the tummies. Over here we have a bunch of old hens. |
   
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1941 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:20 pm: |
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Dr. Please read the below to yourself one thousand times: "I can't help noticing that those who disagree with me about my politics have problems with me everywhere else. Coincidence? I think not. It is no secret that one's politics is the driving factor on MOL. How pathetic. " You know very well this is the primary reason why "you don't believe me." Do you realize how many times I heard this phrase from you on the political board? Admitting that you have a problem with politcal prejudice is winning half the battle. -slk
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 2387 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:21 pm: |
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Dave and oldstone, I agree. but slk's notion that he's being persecuted here is not borne out by the responses he's getting. |
   
Hoops
Citizen Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1991 Registered: 10-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:29 pm: |
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uh oh slk you are displaying some interesting symptoms - Paranoia A mode of thought, feeling, and behavior characterized centrally by false persecutory beliefs, more specifically referred to as paranoidness. Commonly associated with these core persecutory beliefs are properties of suspiciousness, fearfulness, hostility, hypersensitivity, rigidity of conviction, and an exaggerated sense of self-reference. These properties are evident with varying degrees of intensity and duration.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 2388 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:30 pm: |
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slk, if you're talking about RL, why do you need to generalize to everyone? I see lots of people who disagree with your politics who are on your side. (and if you read my responses, I'm on your side with regard to the guy calling the cops being way over the top). but I'm not with you in regard to your generalization that self-righteousness is rampant in response to you. what you'd term "self-righteousness" has been a minority. and you're focusing on that, which is why I say it looks a lot like that's what you were trolling for. |
   
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1942 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:32 pm: |
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Dr.- Where did I say I was being persecuted? Knowing our town, I was expecting a little persecution. Big difference. Again, Dr., I was venting someone called the cops on me for something trivial. Have you ever stopped to wonder what kind of trouble I would of been in if I did get ticketed and appear before a judge? The truth is just that, regardless of what one believes. Take that advice and stick it in your hat. -SLK |
   
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 2389 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:41 pm: |
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dude, you've been complaining constantly about "self-righteous" responses. and again, you say "Knowing our town, I was expecting a little persecution." that's what I'm talking about. most of the responses here are sympathetic to you. and instead of focusing on that, you choose to believe that the self-righteous minority reflects the town as a whole. why is that? |
   
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1943 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 3:13 pm: |
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Dr. little is the key word in my last post, as in "little persecution." Please find definition below: Little–adjective 1. small in size; not big; not large; tiny: a little desk in the corner of the room. 2. short in duration; not extensive; short; brief: a little while. 3. small in number: a little group of scientists. 4. small in amount or degree; not much: little hope. 5. of a certain amount; appreciable (usually prec. by a): We're having a little difficulty. 6. being such on a small scale: little farmers. 7. younger or youngest: He's my little brother. 8. not strong, forceful, or loud; weak: a little voice. 9. small in consideration, importance, position, affluence, etc.: little discomforts; tax reductions to help the little fellow. 10. mean, narrow, or illiberal: a little mind. 11. endearingly small or considered as such: Bless your little heart! 12. amusingly small or so considered: a funny little way of laughing. 13. contemptibly small, petty, mean, etc., or so considered: filthy little political tricks. –adverb 14. not at all (used before a verb): He little knows what awaits him. 15. in only a small amount or degree; not much; slightly: a little known work of art; little better than a previous effort. 16. seldom; rarely; infrequently: We see each other very little. –noun 17. a small amount, quantity, or degree: They did little to make him comfortable. If you want some ice cream, there's a little in the refrigerator. 18. a short distance: It's down the road a little. 19. a short time: Stay here for a little. —Idioms20. in little, on a small scale; in miniature: a replica in little of Independence Hall. 21. little by little, by small degrees; gradually: The water level rose little by little. 22. make little of, a. belittle: to make little of one's troubles. b. to understand or interpret only slightly: Scholars made little of the newly discovered text. 23. not a little, to a great extent; very much; considerably: It tired me not a little to stand for three hours. 24. think little of, to treat casually; regard as trivial: They think little of driving 50 miles to see a movie. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: bef. 900; ME, OE lȳtel (lȳt few, small + -el dim. suffix), c. D luttel, OHG luzzil, ON lītill] —Related forms lit‧tlish /ˈlɪtlɪʃ, ˈlɪtlɪʃ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lit-l-ish, lit-lish] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation, adjective lit‧tle‧ness, noun —Synonyms 1–4. tiny, teeny, wee. Little, diminutive, minute, small refer to that which is not large or significant. Little (the opposite of big) is very general, covering size, extent, number, quantity, amount, duration, or degree: a little boy; a little time. Small (the opposite of large and of great) can many times be used interchangeably with little, but is especially applied to what is limited or below the average in size: small oranges. Diminutive denotes (usually physical) size that is much less than the average or ordinary; it may suggest delicacy: the baby's diminutive fingers; diminutive in size but autocratic in manner. Minute suggests that which is so tiny it is difficult to discern, or that which implies attentiveness to the smallest details: a minute quantity; a minute exam. Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 2390 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 3:18 pm: |
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so you're saying you don't think self-righteousness is typical of our town's residents? fair enough. |
   
combustion
Citizen Username: Spontaneous
Post Number: 474 Registered: 4-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 4:40 pm: |
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thread drift. Many, many years ago, back in the third grade, a bully was making fun of another little boy. The bully was taunting the other boy, saying he saw him walking to school with his mother, and that his mother made him hold her hand to cross the street. Mrs. Z stepped in and said to the bully "Well, she held his hand because she loves him and doesn't want to see anything bad happen to him. Maybe your mother doesn't love you enough to hold you hand while you cross the street." 'Nuff said. |
   
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1944 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 4:41 pm: |
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Dr. not typically, yet again we can all be self-righteous about something(including myself), don't you think? -SLK |
   
MeAndTheBoys
Citizen Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 4428 Registered: 12-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 4:49 pm: |
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And your point would be what, combustion? That Mrs. Z was a cruel and thoughtless adult who would belittle a child who already, clearly, had his own issues to deal with? Guess I'm not quite getting it. |
   
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 2392 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 5:00 pm: |
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one person's self-righteousness is another person's righteous indignation |
   
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1945 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 5:03 pm: |
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Me neither...I thought this thread a dwindling to a much needed halt until combustion jumped on top of the pile. I think I know what he/she is driving at. The implication is that those parents that don't leave their children in the car (or hold their child's hand) love their children more than those parents that do (not hold their child's hand). As a consolation, I DO hold my older child's hand whenever crossing the street. Yes, sometimes he does get way ahead of me in which case i scream bloody murder until he stops. Quite frankly, I never understood parents that put their children in lockdown in their strollers. Let the child walk already...geez.... -SLK -Hey MATBs, is your 8 year old finished cooking that crack up yet? Time is a wasting...  |
   
MeAndTheBoys
Citizen Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 4429 Registered: 12-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 5:20 pm: |
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SLK, he's been busy playing unsupervised in the middle of Valley Street. And I've been busy, yakking on the phone while the younger two played with sharp knives in the kitchen. If I remember correctly, your kids were supplying the crack and mine were bringing the heroin. I'll send the 8-year-old out to score once he's done lighting matches near the open valve on the gas grill. |
   
greenetree
Supporter Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 9264 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 5:23 pm: |
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Thanks for making arrangements so that the kids aren't taking up bar stools at the Gate. |
   
Gregor Samsa
Citizen Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 598 Registered: 11-2002

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 5:54 pm: |
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Maplewood IS populated by lefty pc busybodies...I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't see how. |
   
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1946 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 6:03 pm: |
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oh yeah!!!! Gregor, great to hear from you again....you are right about that....what gave it away, all the diversity flags (which ironically don't incorporate the likes of you and me)? -SLK |
   
Gregor Samsa
Citizen Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 599 Registered: 11-2002

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 6:10 pm: |
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This thread is so typical of (2 cliche's coming) people sitting high up in their ivory towers showering down judgement, and people in glass houses throwing stones. DR, Hoops, KenScout, RL... I'm sure you are all perfect parents who have NEVER done anything that could remotely be construed as a parental mistake. How dare you. Oh wait, none of you even has kids. And no, RL that collection of kiddie porn on your hard drive does not count... |
   
MeAndTheBoys
Citizen Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 4430 Registered: 12-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 6:17 pm: |
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Your welcome, Greenetree, at least for today. Saturday we have plans to take the little ones to The Gate for Jello shots. But since they'll be paying, drinking customers, I can't see why anyone would object to their taking up precious bar stool space. |
   
Hoops
Citizen Username: Hoops
Post Number: 2000 Registered: 10-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 6:40 pm: |
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Gregor, yes I am a perfect parent and you are a flawed reader. If you read what I posted you would see that I am actually sympathetic to SLK. But I think you have an itch that you just cant scratch. The fact of the matter you are trolling for trouble with your little "lefty pc busybody" quote. As if the right are not the ones that want to look through everybodies dirty laundry to make sure we are all so moral and well-behaved. Take your tripe to the Political soapbox, this thread is about slk and now MATBs transgressions. Either get your kids to the tattoo parlor with slk or get on the pulpit with Dr. O but leave your ridiculous politics out. |
   
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 2393 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 6:46 pm: |
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ditto Gregor. go back and read what I wrote and see if I criticized slk's parenting. or I can save you the time - I DIDN'T. |
   
combustion
Citizen Username: Spontaneous
Post Number: 477 Registered: 4-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 7:01 pm: |
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MATB, first of all, Mrs. Z, being a MRS, was female. Secondly, she was probably the best, kindest, most wonderful teacher I ever had. Period. I just felt that she made a valid point. If you love your children, you take care of them. Thinking along those lines, you don't leave a 4 month old alone in a car. Oh, wait, the 4 month old wasn't alone, the infant was in the care of a 2 1/2 year old. I guess everything is okay then. Carry on. |
   
Alleygater
Citizen Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 2548 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 7:16 pm: |
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Quote:Maplewood IS populated by lefty pc busybodies...I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't see how.
OK, now that post is exactly what I would call "SO TYPICAL". |
   
Robert Livingston
Citizen Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 2047 Registered: 7-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 8:13 pm: |
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"And no, RL that collection of kiddie porn on your hard drive does not count..." Wow. That's shockingly libelous of you. But if does show where your mind is. I mean, seriously, you jump right from talking about children to kiddie porn?? Really??!! Maybe in your world. As we know, most of the right-leaning whack jobs are the pervs, pederasts, and sodomites. That's no secret. I'm just surprised you'd come right out and admit it here on this forum. I'm very disappointed in you, Gregor. You should really keep your id to yourself, bro. It's sick and disturbing. |
   
Elizabeth
Citizen Username: Momof4peepers
Post Number: 181 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 8:23 pm: |
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My question is why do people feel the need to call the police? What do you care if another parent chooses to emphasize different aspects of their child's safety than you do? (and SLK - I deleted my own post from earlier because I felt my post was inappropriate.) |