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     Charles "Chuck" Howley Citizen Username: Cowboy Post Number: 204 Registered: 9-2003 |
Intelligence experts say that Al Qaeda may have agents who are fully trained airline pilots now working for foreign airlines. What if one of these pilots on their way to the U.S. intended to fly their aircraft into, let's say, the U.S. Capitol. Those reinforced cockpit doors would keep anyone from getting on the flight deck to stop him. Result? One shot-down airliner. You know those men and women sitting in front of those monitors at the airport security station. Do you have any idea what are they looking for? Do you think you could catch a weapon in someone's bags? This NBC story says that Al Qaeda may have some fully trained airline pilots ready to roll in another attack. About halfway down the page, on the right, you'll see a little box labeled "interactive" where you can pretend to be an airport security screener. http://msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?ID=3775771&p1=0 | ||
| bobk Citizen Username: Bobk Post Number: 4122 Registered: 5-2001 |
Chuckyboy, please don't make assumptions about who I am going to vote for or who I voted for in the past. My problems With King George II are that he is not a true fiscal conservative or even moderate, but into a sort of bread and circus mode, and I am very uncomfortable, as at least a semi-libertarian, with his social agenda. Part of his job is leadership and remaining in Washington would make quite a few people more comfortable with the Orange alert. Everything I have read indicates that the Air Guard, that small portion of it that remains in the US and not in Iraq, isn't flying CAP missions in response to the current alert and this, to be honest, scares the shit out of me. 911 proved that the best cruise missles are not produced in defense plants, but by Boeing and Airbus. OBL and company are too directed and well organized to give up this approach. | ||
| lumpyhead Citizen Username: Lumpyhead Post Number: 584 Registered: 3-2002 |
Come on Chuck. Obviouly the good doctor knows more than Tom Ridge and the CIA/FBI. | ||
| Duncan Real Name Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 1363 Registered: 12-2001  |
lumpy you have got to be kidding. The good doctor isnt saying he knows more.. HE IS QUESTIONING. Why does that frighten you guys??? Blind adherence to any doctrine beit social, political, or spiritual is kind of scary. Keep asking questions and keep holding people accountable and there can be improvement. Or do you think the whole of US policy as currently in place is flawless? Cause if you do... well you are in for one hell of a disappointment. "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" Wayne Gretzky | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 400 Registered: 8-2003  |
no LH -- I'm saying precisely THE OPPOSITE. The FBI/CIA/law enforcement know way more than regular folks about stopping attacks. Why the need to send out vague and dire warnings to everyone else? | ||
| The Final Straw Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1615 Registered: 10-2001 |
I shall have this entire topic printed, framed and placed above my fireplace to remind myself of the failure of our educational system. "We won't always have the strongest military" --Howard Dean "Most competent and qualified kindergarden teachers can tell you who the 5 kids are in his or her class likely to wind up in prison 15 - 20 years from now." --Howard Dean | ||
| 1-2many Citizen Username: Wbg69 Post Number: 767 Registered: 6-2002 |
blind adherence to sloppy, biased, hypocritical US foreign policy is what bought us an invitation to the terrorist party. the American people need to get their arms around the Israel-Palestine conflict, and send our voices to Washington, because it is that conflict - and the US' questionable support of Israel in it - that has directly invited the ire of many. it is that conflict, and other US foreign policy decisions, that have placed us square in the middle of what we naively believe is far far away: the Middle East and its very intense and very non-Western religious, political, social, and economic components. I, too, bought the gov't and media line for a time, that 911 was just the work of crazed madmen. but what all the hype ignored is that we do a lot business with those folks. WE TAKE SIDES. we provide economic relief and sanctions. and that, my friends, is what brought terrorism to our soil, NOT just the action of a few zealots. | ||
| Kenney Citizen Username: Kenney Post Number: 211 Registered: 11-2003 |
What's important for Tom Ridge is getting the word out to local law enforcement. Television is one way they do this--and at the same time it serves to keep the public informed. The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today..FDR.. Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth...G.W. Everyone wants a voice in human freedom. There's a fire burning inside of all us...L.W. | ||
| The Final Straw Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1616 Registered: 10-2001 |
1-2 many, You sure are ignorant. In other words, ignore our allies if someone else hates them. Get lost turkey, you're all wet. "We won't always have the strongest military" --Howard Dean "Most competent and qualified kindergarden teachers can tell you who the 5 kids are in his or her class likely to wind up in prison 15 - 20 years from now." --Howard Dean | ||
| Kenney Citizen Username: Kenney Post Number: 212 Registered: 11-2003 |
1-2 is right...nothing is more important than Israel/Palenstine. take this away and the terrorist have nothing to convince others to join their cause. We are in the process of liberating 2 countries in the middle east while pressuring other governments to give their citizens more rights--allowing Israel to build a fence to further oppress Palenstine is a contradiction. The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today..FDR.. Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth...G.W. Everyone wants a voice in human freedom. There's a fire burning inside of all us...L.W. | ||
| 1-2many Citizen Username: Wbg69 Post Number: 768 Registered: 6-2002 |
straw, you're the biggest and blindest Israel supporter of them all. your opinion on this issue is entirely predictable and closed-minded, and should be ignored. supporting our allies does not mean ignoring their wrongdoing and their own terrorist actions. but we HAVE done this. and as long as the fight continues to rage on, and Israel continues its unlawful actions vis a vis Palestine, we should expect retaliation. | ||
| Charles "Chuck" Howley Citizen Username: Cowboy Post Number: 207 Registered: 9-2003 |
Blind adherence to the anti-Bush bashing doctrine that continually presents itself on this forum is evident to even the most casual observer. So, get off your high horse Duncan. Take a look at those who blindly follow Krugman as an example. Arguing and finding fault is key among the "Hate Bush" faction. They seems to seek pleasure in finding fault with every move he makes. Especially appauling were the sentiments expressed following his visit to our troops stationed in Iraq. I certainly do not consider GW to be correct on each and every issue. In fact, I am angered by some of the subsidies that were given away in the farm bill two years back. What really irks me is the continued banter from the left who seem intent upon only regaining power. They offer nothing credible, only anti-Bushisms. But where is criticism of Howard Dean's failure to have any real experience with foreign policy? Oh yeah, I almost forgot, Vermont and Canada had dealings that he was heavily involved in. Oh yeah, regarding what?. Maple Sugar? Mapple Syrup? Forests? Or was it a bike path? Get real BobbyKay, you wouldn't agree with a fiscal conservative if you even knew how to recognize one. And yes, I assume that you won't be voting for "King George II." I'll even go as far as suggest that you didn't vote for him the first go round. Too bad, you never seem to take a solid stand on any issue. Get some backbone dude! And if you are scared about the response to the current alert, thank your lucky stars we don't have Dean or Gore as leader of our nation during these times. Could you even imagine? George Bush has certainly proven himself to be a respected leader. Is he perfect? Far from it, he is human. Yet, he has done a solid job of providing leadership for this country. He has restored confidence in the office of the presidency. In fact I'll wager that our military trusts his leadership qualities above any of those among any other candidate you can name, including the ex-General. | ||
| bobk Citizen Username: Bobk Post Number: 4123 Registered: 5-2001 |
Actually I did vote for him in the last election.  Again, you are making assumptions. His leadership, both here and abroad, is open to question. In spite of the above, I am not comfortable with most of the Democratic challengers, so I may vote for him again next year. This will not, however, keep me from calling him King George II, just as my votes for Clinton don't keep me from calling him "Big Bil" and a few other nicknames not suited for a G rated message board. | ||
| The Final Straw Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1617 Registered: 10-2001 |
Actually 1-2 your knowledge of what turned Bin laden against America has little to do with Israel. A little history lesson for ya. Back during the gulf war Bin laden was a growing force in Saudi Arabia. His words and actions were of a concern to the Saudi Government because of his anti-establishment way. When the war kicked off and the Saudi's allowed us access to their runways, Bin laden became furious and began to publicly attack his government every chance he had. This led to the decisoon to toss him from the country. That's how he settled in Afghanistan and that's why he began a decade long process of building terror camps and training terrorists. Now that you have a better understanding of what made Al Qaeda I suggest you apologize to all Jews who now know you're a schmuck. Blind faith in Israel?? You better believe it buddy boy. That nation has been the voice of reason in the middle of an hell hole. Thousands of innocent Israeli's have lost their lives over the years in the process. Israel has no choice but to build the wall as a result. Silly 1-2 many... "We won't always have the strongest military" --Howard Dean "Most competent and qualified kindergarden teachers can tell you who the 5 kids are in his or her class likely to wind up in prison 15 - 20 years from now." --Howard Dean | ||
| Kenney Citizen Username: Kenney Post Number: 213 Registered: 11-2003 |
Support of the fence has nothing to do with support of Israel. The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today..FDR.. Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth...G.W. Everyone wants a voice in human freedom. There's a fire burning inside of all us...L.W. | ||
| Dave Ross Citizen Username: Dave Post Number: 5995 Registered: 4-1998  |
"apologize to all Jews who now know you're a schmuck. " introducing the new 2-week suspension | ||
| Charles "Chuck" Howley Citizen Username: Cowboy Post Number: 209 Registered: 9-2003 |
Bobk, thank you for casting your vote for Bush in 2000. Has there ever been a sitting president since you have been voting whose leadership, both here and abroad, has not been open to question? My guess, probably not. Too bad, you never seem to take a solid stand on any issue. | ||
| bobk Citizen Username: Bobk Post Number: 4124 Registered: 5-2001 |
Chuck, one of my major problems is that I tend to see both sides of most issues. This is, in our current rapidly diverging political world, viewed as a weaknesss. Personally I don't think so. I am, to be blunt, sick and tired of the attack dogs on both the left and the right here on MOL who never see anyone elses point of view and I think MOL is a microcasm of the real world. | ||
| Dave Ross Citizen Username: Dave Post Number: 5996 Registered: 4-1998 |
The world would be a better place if "taking a stand" was less important than discussing things to learn more. "Taking a stand" all too often means shutting out other viewpoints. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 1698 Registered: 5-2001 |
The President-elect with significant foreign-policy experience is a relative rarity. In the 20th century that list would EXCLUDE both Roosevelts, Wilson, Coolidge, Harding, Truman, Johnson, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and Bush Jr. A pretty wide group, and certainly not indicative of how they'd perform. |
