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     Kenney Citizen Username: Kenney Post Number: 210 Registered: 11-2003 |
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1222dean22.html Considering what's going on in the world, admitting you are weak on defense doesn't make much sense. This could turn out to be a huge political mistake, opening the door for Gephardt, Lieberman and Kerry. The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today..FDR.. Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth...G.W. Everyone wants a voice in human freedom. There's a fire burning inside of all us...L.W. | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 395 Registered: 8-2003  |
since your paraphrase is a bit off the mark (he didn't say he was weak on defense), here's the real quote, for the people who never bother to read the linked article: "The second criteria is, I'm going to pick somebody with defense and foreign-policy experience," he said. "The fact is, it's a resume problem. I need to plug that hole on the resume, and I'm going to do that with my running mate." He calls it a "resume problem," which is about perceptions, not reality. | ||
| The Final Straw Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1612 Registered: 10-2001 |
foreign policy experience?? Let's see Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld, Baker, seems to be most of the "really" experienced guys already have jobs...Oh, wait Kissenger is available.  "We won't always have the strongest military" --Howard Dean "Most competent and qualified kindergarden teachers can tell you who the 5 kids are in his or her class likely to wind up in prison 15 - 20 years from now." --Howard Dean | ||
| Charles "Chuck" Howley Citizen Username: Cowboy Post Number: 206 Registered: 9-2003 |
Howard Dean positioned himself to be anti-war, though lately he appears to be backing away ever so slightly from that position. Why? Probably because he really has been made to understand that in order to get elected he must appeal to a wider audience than simply his grass-roots malcontents from the far-left. His anti-war message would be political suicide in the general election. He has exploited this issue all the way to the top of the anti-Bush, anti-war hill of his party faithful. Wow, so he has garnered the "Hate Bush" Vote, but his fellow Democrats are so rattled by his success that they've started now airing ads challenging his war credentials. How can Democrats truly believe that Howard Dean is electable when he is soft on the one issue that will probably matter most in 2004? So in response Dean is trying a new issue, partisanship. Good Luck Howard... One should remember that Washington remains a bitterly partisan place, but Howard, the front-runner, is now upset about how little partisan wrangling there has been. Unbelieveable, check this one out. http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/bminiter/?id=110004466 | ||
| Sylad Citizen Username: Sylad Post Number: 110 Registered: 6-2002 |
To date Dean's foreign policy has been centered on how to stop VT residents from going to NH to purchase beer and wine. Look at recent history, democratics from small states make bad presidents. | ||
| Redsox Citizen Username: Redsox Post Number: 382 Registered: 6-2002 |
dean's a sacrifice, gonna get his *ss kicked, to set the table for hillary on the next go round | ||
| Sylad Citizen Username: Sylad Post Number: 117 Registered: 6-2002 |
Hillary, you have got to be kidding me...what experience does she have to lead our country????? She knows squat about healthcare, the economy, foreign policy, military strategy, the list goes on. If the democratic party goes with her ever for a national election that is the day that the two party system in our country is over. Still waiting for someone to provide fact based reasons as to why I should consider a dem. | ||
| NRL Citizen Username: Nrl Post Number: 397 Registered: 8-2003 |
But Shes a CLinton. Dont you remember? They answer to no one and nothing ever sticks to Slick Willy and company. She got NY because people underestimated her. | ||
| mayhewdrive Real Name Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 631 Registered: 5-2001 |
"knows squat about healthcare, the economy, foreign policy, military strategy, the list goes on"....sounds a lot like G. W Bush, doesn't it? Honestly, what credential did he have in the last election? (other than Daddy standing behind him) | ||
| Tom Reingold the prissy-pants Citizen Username: Noglider Post Number: 1524 Registered: 1-2003  |
GW Bush had fewer years of public service going into the presidency than anyone in modern history. If that's good enough for you, then Clinton's is more than enough. I'm not saying anything about Clinton, just taking issue with the "experience" argument. Tom Reingold There is nothing | ||
| anon Citizen Username: Anon Post Number: 878 Registered: 6-2002 |
As I recall, the person who had the most experience in both domestic and foreign affairs before becoming President was Richard Nixon. Second probably was George Bush the First. Neither Reagan nor Clinton had any foreign policy experience. | ||
| Tom Reingold the prissy-pants Citizen Username: Noglider Post Number: 1525 Registered: 1-2003 |
Which seems to lead me to conclude that amount of experience is a poor predictor of performance, though more experience is generally preferred. Oh, and I'm sure Carter had no foreign policy experience. But in general, I like the idea of governors becoming presidents, better than senators. Tom Reingold There is nothing | ||
| Insite Citizen Username: Insite Post Number: 180 Registered: 10-2002 |
Tom is right, It's pretty hard to gain International experience unless you've been a Secretary of state or spent time serving in an administration. Generally speaking, these types don't run for President. As far as a Governor vs a Senator is concerned. It really doesn't make a difference. Governor's seem to win more often because as of late we seem to feel voting in "Washington outsiders" is the way to go. | ||
| johnny Citizen Username: Johnny Post Number: 793 Registered: 5-2001 |
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | ||
| Insite Citizen Username: Insite Post Number: 183 Registered: 10-2002 |
johnny, If you're going to be a brat go elsewhere. | ||
| Montagnard Citizen Username: Montagnard Post Number: 312 Registered: 6-2003 |
The true expert knows where his expertise ends. Much better to have a self-confident Commander-in-Chief who can express this publicly and assign a well-qualified Secretary of Defense, as opposed to having someone like George A.W.O.L. Bush playing make-believe. | ||
| Reflective Citizen Username: Reflective Post Number: 209 Registered: 3-2003 |
Governors (of large states) haven't been so bad. Reagan and California. Let's see, California is like the 5th largest economy in the World. (and for you contras, they should be on the UN's security Council). Bush 2 and Texas. Let's just say that Texans think they are very special and let's leave it at that. Vermont - what city is it close to? | ||
| Sylad Citizen Username: Sylad Post Number: 121 Registered: 6-2002 |
Again...what experience does Hillary have? What legislation has she sponsored? What bills that she authored or even co-authored are now laws? I don't even think that most of her resolutions have been passed. What senate committee does she chair? What is her experience as a proven elected leader?? | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 411 Registered: 8-2003 |
Sylad, George W. Bush had the thinnest resume of any presidential candidate in our lifetimes. His international experience consisted of having Vicente Fox over to the ranch for BBQ. Millions of voters (although not most) voted for him despite his lack of experience. So why not let go of this obsessive "I'm still waiting..." The Democratic candidates (with the exception of Sharpton) all have more extensive experience in government than a Texas governor did in 2000. If you don't agree with their positions on the issues, or you don't think they have the right talents for the job, fine. But this obsession with "experience" ignores the fact that (as many other posters have pointed out) most of the country's successful presidents have come to the job without the experience you're asking for. | ||
| tjohn Citizen Username: Tjohn Post Number: 2005 Registered: 12-2001  |
Sylad, You are preaching to the choir. Nobody not already inclined to vote for Bush is overly concerned about the points you raise. |
