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     United Strawberry of America Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1678 Registered: 10-2001  |
In order for the democrats to reclaim the White House bad things will have to happen in 2004. So here's to all the Dumbocrats who will now spend the next 8 months hoping the economy crashes, or the war in Iraq leads to thousands of American deaths or the war on terror leads to a massive terror attack that kills thousands of Americans here in the states. Hopefully for your sake, you get a few of these things. If not, Bush's first four years will be deemed a smashing success by the majority of voters. VOTE BUSH IN 2004, LET'S KEEP UP THE PROGRESS. "and I'm p*ssed that I'm on the list, just so some p*ssant can say that he gave me a lower score than the last time (whenever that was)" The above post was the last of many unpunished personal attacks committed by Nohero. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 1709 Registered: 5-2001 |
I know it's a troll, but I can't resist. The Valerie Plame affair goes huge; senior officials are implicated, plus it opens a can of worms of other dirty tricks. Bush loses big. People stop saying we invaded Iraq for the oil, start saying we invaded Iraq so that Halliburton and Bechtel could grow fat at the federal trough. Cheney's head rolls, Bush loses a close one. The Dems finally get a message together that makes sense. They're right about most of the issues, but can't figure out how to execute. This summer they do and the electorate figures out that they've been had. Bumper sticker seen this week in Vermont: Let's not elect him in 2004, either. | ||
| bottomline Citizen Username: Bottomline Post Number: 38 Registered: 8-2003 |
What a moronic insult. I’ve been a Democrat – and proudly so -- since I was first old enough to vote, in 1972. I do not wish for the deaths of American soldiers in combat, nor of American civilians in terror attacks. I never want the economy to falter. I always want the best for my country. I have serious problems with the Bush administration because of their slavish ideological approach to healthcare and environmental protection; because of their heavy-handed disregard for constitutional protection, even in the wake of terrorists attacks; because they have unnecessarily alienated our allies around the world; and because their economic policies will not serve us in the long run. And that’s just to name a few issues. I would love to see George Bush “unelected” in November. But I do not wish the worst for our country. | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 330 Registered: 6-2003 |
bottomline, sometimes our parents were right. Ignore them and they will go away. | ||
| bottomline Citizen Username: Bottomline Post Number: 39 Registered: 8-2003 |
Uke, I took the bait -- I admit it. But the notion that any of us would wish for the deaths of fellow Americans really got under my skin. | ||
| Duncan Real Name Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 1380 Registered: 12-2001  |
and that is exactly Straws MO. For such a basically intelligent guy his behaviour is, more often than not, sophmoric. BTW thats a very succinct and telling paragraph on whats wrong with the current situation bottomline, thanks for writing it. "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" Wayne Gretzky | ||
| Dave Ross Citizen Username: Dave Post Number: 6031 Registered: 4-1998  |
Actually the title of this topic gave me a great idea for a needed change.... | ||
| United Strawberry of America Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1680 Registered: 10-2001 |
Bottomline: The only way Bush loses the election is if we are terrorized, get our asses kicked in Iraq or the economy slumps. Your other concerns don't rate nearly as high to the Majority of Americans. That's why your cohorts here on MOL want and pray for disaster to strike. They hate Bush so much, they would rather see a crashed economy or another nine-eleven or more dead soldiers rather than 4 more years from a President who just may go down in history along side some of the greats. Your failure to realize this is jaded by your support of the Democratic party, but also your inability to realize that it's not the same party you fell in love with back in 1972. It's a party dominated by a very angry radical left. I'm sorry, if I've offended you but it's time you woke up, and thought "outside" the box on this one. Your party left you and they've abandoned America at the same time. It is the Republicans who have kept this country toegether through improved intelligence, through patriotic honor and economic advances over the last two years. It is Bush who has moved forward taking down terror cells and terrorist regimes, despite International pressure that told him not to do so, not to mention Democratic waffling on the issue based on polls. In the end we now see France and co. ready to forgive debt because they too want a piece of what it is a free Iraq can offer the world. Bush made a decision to protect America, and it was the right decision. He also had the presence of mine to jump start a failed economy that crashed in 99 and was whacked again by 911. Like I said, if any Democrat out there wants the White house pray for disaster. If, they don't get that, they won't get the White House. Sorry if the truth hurts, but it's something you need to know. So if I were you, I'd be fair when I assess who I vote for in 04. If you vote based on results, as of right now Bush deserves your vote. Things might change and if they do, maybe you'll get your shot. However don't forget those changes will have to be real bad for the American people. BUSH IN 2004.."BECAUSE AMERICA NEEDS STRENGTH, INTELLIGENCE, AND GOALS THAT WORK." "and I'm p*ssed that I'm on the list, just so some p*ssant can say that he gave me a lower score than the last time (whenever that was)" The above post was the last of many unpunished personal attacks committed by Nohero. | ||
| Habanero2 Citizen Username: Habanero2 Post Number: 13 Registered: 12-2003 |
I will vote for anyone who will lower my taxes, and I owe Bush big time on that one. I do however, think the Medicare drug benefit is not only going to be a disaster but is the worst kind of pandering. I have trouble reconciling that one. Other than that though, Bush is doing about as perfect a job as anyone outside of the socialist republics of SO-M could ask. "You kids today have it easy. When I was a kid everything was HUGE. My dad was nearly four times bigger than me. You couldn't even see the tops of counters.... Then gradually everything became smaller until it was the manageable size it is today." | ||
| United Strawberry of America Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1684 Registered: 10-2001 |
To be honest, I was very much for the medicare bill until I saw folks like Nancy Pelosi supporting it. That in turn gave me an uneasy feeling. However, like Habanero2 says, lower taxes and a stronger economy are two feathers currently in Bush's cap. "and I'm p*ssed that I'm on the list, just so some p*ssant can say that he gave me a lower score than the last time (whenever that was)" The above post was the last of many unpunished personal attacks committed by Nohero. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 1711 Registered: 5-2001 |
We dems don't need a disaster, just for the truly scandalous nature of these corporate patsys to be revealed. These right-wing wackos are solely in the business of doing the bidding of the ultra-wealthy, and screw the rest of us. Paint it however you like with cute phrases like "middle class tax cut" and "the average American will get $xxx." It's just a smokescreen, and I pray the average voter -- who isn't getting diddly out of this whole thing -- catches on sooner rather than later. | ||
| Habanero2 Citizen Username: Habanero2 Post Number: 15 Registered: 12-2003 |
Not that worried about the "average" voter. I bet I get at least $2 grand/year out of the Bush tax cut, whereas I lost $3 grand/year in the Maplewood re-val. I will hapily cancel out tom's Dr. Dean vote in November. "You kids today have it easy. When I was a kid everything was HUGE. My dad was nearly four times bigger than me. You couldn't even see the tops of counters.... Then gradually everything became smaller until it was the manageable size it is today." | ||
| anon Citizen Username: Anon Post Number: 893 Registered: 6-2002 |
"Your failure to realize this is jaded by your support of the Democratic party, but also your inability to realize that it's not the same party you fell in love with back in 1972. It's a party dominated by a very angry radical left. " In 1972, the Democratic Party was controlled by George McGovern and the most left-wing element of the Party. Today it is more conservative and more controlled by people like Terry McCauliff and big money interests, although they may not be the same big money interests as control the GOP. A lot of Howard Dean's appeal is that he is running against the Democratic Party establishment which he sees as being too supportive of Bush. | ||
| United Strawberry of America Citizen Username: Strawberry Post Number: 1687 Registered: 10-2001 |
Terry McCauliff and the Clinton moderate democrat is under attack from the Dean left. Falure to realize the change within the party will result in a similar election as to the one that took place in 72. The Hippies came, they saw, they got their asses kicked in. The same thing will happen this year unless a moderate with a clue such as Lieberman gets the nomination. "and I'm p*ssed that I'm on the list, just so some p*ssant can say that he gave me a lower score than the last time (whenever that was)" The above post was the last of many unpunished personal attacks committed by Nohero. | ||
| mfpark Citizen Username: Mfpark Post Number: 122 Registered: 9-2001 |
What do you mean by "left"? This is Dean's economic platform--it hardly seems Trotskyite to me--in fact, it sounds downright corporate and small "r" republican: My economic policies for America are based on four fundamentals: *Repeal the Bush tax cuts, and use those funds to pay for universal health care, homeland security, and investments in job creation that benefit all Americans. *Set the nation on the path to a balanced budget, recognizing that we cannot have social or economic justice without a sound fiscal foundation. *Create a fairer and simpler system of taxation. *Assure that Social Security and Medicare are adequately funded to meet the needs of the next generation of retirees. Heck, Nixon's platform of wage and price controls and universal health care was as "leftist" as this. The whole debate has been so highjacked by the right that even someone in the center looks wild-eyed and radical. It is ridiculous to call the Democrats "leftists"--it is only a means to devalue good ideas in the name of partisan politics. | ||
| mayhewdrive Real Name Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 651 Registered: 5-2001  |
Strawberry...I'd hardly call Leiberman "moderate"...although next to the extremism of GWB...virtually everyone seems moderate in comparison. Blind Faith in your leaders or in anything will get you killed - B. Springsteen | ||
| llama Citizen Username: Llama Post Number: 400 Registered: 5-2001  |
Bush is the disaster. | ||
| bets Citizen Username: Bets Post Number: 450 Registered: 6-2001  |
To twist this thread, I just have to say how happy I am that Strawthing is not a product of the South Orange-Maplewood educational system. None of his grammar, punctuation, capitalization, or spelling errors can be blamed on our schools, and for that we should ALL be thankful! Happy 2004! | ||
| bottomline Citizen Username: Bottomline Post Number: 40 Registered: 8-2003 |
Straw, You and I have been talking past each other because I’m focusing on underlying philosophy while you’re kibitzing the next election. In terms of vision and personal qualifications, I think Bush is the second worst president over the last 50 years. (Nixon is number 1.) The fact that Bush appointed John Ashcroft as Attorney General is ample proof alone. On the other hand, as a practical matter, Bush is the clear front runner in 2004. He is a popular incumbent and the polls reflect that. Has he got a lock on it? Not quite, but close. We still need to see who the Dems nominate and how they fall in line behind him. We need to see how the CIA scandal and the Halliburton affair play out. And sometime before the election Bush will probably have to bag Rumsfeld as a concession to the slow pace of the war. But I disagree with your statement that I should support Bush because he has shown results. In my opinion, it’s way to early to conclude that. BTW, many of your observations amuse me. My recent favorite was, “Sorry if the truth hurts, but it's something you need to know.” Believe me, Straw, I don’t look to you for the truth on any topic. | ||
| Kenney Citizen Username: Kenney Post Number: 261 Registered: 11-2003 |
Iran 2-10-1462_1464904%2C00.html,http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462 _1464904,00.html Libya http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/world/story/0,4386,228031,00.html? Iraq Too many positives to link Afghanistan See Iraq Economy http://www.bea.doc.gov/bea/newsrel/gdp303f_fax.pdf AARP endorsement of medicare http://www.aarp.org/research/press/presscurrentnews/Articles/a2003-12-04-oped.ht ml The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today..FDR.. Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth...G.W. Everyone wants a voice in human freedom. There's a fire burning inside of all us...L.W. Dave Ross is the coolest!!(being banned sucks) |
