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Monster©
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...and where would you suggest it to be placed?
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Robert Livingston
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After seeing the photo of it, I'll go with the recycling center.
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Hillsider
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 1:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, if it is < 5% of the Village budget...

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Scully
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 2:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NO !!!!!!
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KRNL
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 3:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Recylcing Center is a good suggestion--but, only if Maplewood was paid $250,000 per year to accept it.
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McMem
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 3:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What does it look like?
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Monster©
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 3:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

a hunk o'junk, according to some, fugly according to me.

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Robert Livingston
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 3:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is SO really tearing down a gazebo for that? At taxpayers expense? I find this shocking.
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McMem
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 3:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is that a bus stop shelter? I don't think Maplewood needs that, whatever it is. Thanks anyway.
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dave23
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 4:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We'll take it as long as SO pays for it.
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LilLB
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 4:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, that thing would fit right in with the Dickens Village
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LazyDog
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 5:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

when's it going to be finished ?
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extuscan
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 5:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is the ugliest hunk of I have ever seen. I promise I will vandalize it every night until it is gone. It doesn't belong in Maplewood, it doesn't belong in South Orange. It has ZERO artistic merit. It's CRAP.

-John
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Frederick Schmid
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 6:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Quite interesting sculpture. Something SO will be proud to have in its community along with a much needed performing art facility. Congrads to the leadership who has the foresight to see beyond simple reactions.
Frederick
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Joan
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 8:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Follow-up question:

If it were a choice between Maplewood getting the cell tower or the Tony Smith sculpture, which would you choose?
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Monster©
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 8:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the tower, at least it has a use, and it's on the golf course, that I will never be a member of.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 8:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fred-
Would you feel the same way if you knew the tax payers of South Oange were misled and it's costing us around $250,000 for this 'gift?' I' curious, how much will you be donating towards this piece of art?

I'd rather have a cell tower, at least it wouldn't cost the taxpayers anything.
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Blew
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 8:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That sculpture is a big giant turd. What a waste of taxpayers money. Not with my money. Any idiot can see that isn't art. That is shite, I tell ya. Yuck. I think I'm going to be sick. Monster you are a horrible person for even suggesting that we pay for that refuse.
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Monster©
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 8:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wasn't suggesting we pay for it, I thought we could take it off of SO's hands after they pay for it, then take it to the recycling center.
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Deidra
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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 2:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


...keep 'em comin'! This thread is too funny!

I especially liked McMem's "bus shelter" suggestion.


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Mayor McCheese
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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 3:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The dogs will love it! That's quite a large target to pee on.

(I shouldn't say only dogs, because Monster may pee on it too.)
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Monster©
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Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 3:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yep

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Crazy_quilter
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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 8:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

or Thomas Kinkade.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-fi-kinkade5mar05,0,1266147.story
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Monster©
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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hahahaha...CODPIECE!!
sounds like he would be fun at a party



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Dandois, who left the company to become chief executive of a group of galleries owned by Kinkade's brother, Patrick, recounted that about six years ago the artist was so intoxicated during a performance by Siegfried & Roy in Las Vegas that people seated nearby moved away from him.

"I think it was Roy or Siegfried or whatever had a codpiece in his leotards," Dandois testified. "And so when the show started, Thom just started yelling, 'Codpiece, codpiece,' and had to be quieted by his mother and Nanette."





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Blew
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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 6:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Recycling is too good for that garbage.
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hch
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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rain shelter for dogs in often-proposed dog run in Memorial Park.
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The Dub
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Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 8:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is it T for Tony - where is the S
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teddytwotimes
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Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

wow - alot of vitriol over public art.
I think its a beautiful modern sculpture from an important SO native. Where is the cultural sophistication I've heard so much about ?
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Alleygater
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Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 1:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A few people LITERALLY beat it right out of me.
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Rastro
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Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 2:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Literally? They found you and beat you up until you had no more cultural sophistication?

Off to the Pet Peeves thread...
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 4:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But Teddy and Alley-
It's not thats we don't like Art, it's more the BOT LIED and left out certain informaitn on purpose (which is the same as LYING) to those of us who live in South Orange. The BOT has NO RIGHT to be spending a HALF MILLION DOLLARS on the right to fabricate a statue (that will continue to cost us money for years to come) when there are so many unfinished projects in our town as well as much needed attention to the library, firehoue, stone house etc. They should come first, before this piece of 'art.' Sorry, that's the way many people feel.

However, maybe we could convince our BOT to sell it to Maplewood?

(nothing personal you guys, still like you and all)
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kathleen
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 9:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

teddytwotimes is absolutely right in saying the Smith sculpture is beautiful and this thread is depressing for its yahooism about modern art. I've followed the story and I understand that officials in South Orange village weren't dilligent before voting on the funding, but that's not what people are acting like monkeys about on MOL.

If Maplewood had produced an artist of Smith's calibre and significance, I would hope that art would be displayed in our town.


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Hank Zona
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Asher Durand? Any of his works displayed in Maplewood? He's pretty significant.

Personally, Im not pondering where Id like to see the Tony Smith sculpture placed if it was in Maplewood, but who I'd like to see it placed on in Maplewood.
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tom
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"yahooism" is the perfect word, thanks Kathleen.
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teddytwotimes
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 2:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just the Aunt, you bring up a valid point about public funds appropriation. I dont know the backstory of the funding of this project.

Still, there is always something else to spend money on...but can we afford to live without art? I know I couldn't in my home.

Whether or not you are fond of this particular piece, couldnt we agree that art is more useful than a cellphone tower?
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Monster©
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 2:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and that statue sure as heck isn't a beauty.
I still say it's just plain fugly.
I would rather look at some life sized sculptures akin to the Max Kalish sculptures in the image below.
What would be great for both towns would be a Sculpture Park like the one in Clifton, http://www.sculpture.org/documents/parksdir/p&g/clifton/clifton.shtml
I haven't been there in a while, but when I lived there I went all the time with my daughter.

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teddytwotimes
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 3:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

who said anything about beauty.
beauty is not a prerequisite for art.
you are thinking of "decoration" or "ornament".
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Monster©
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Teddy, you said it was a beauty

http://www.southorangevillage.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi?tpc=3132&post=570336#POST5703 36

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I think its a beautiful modern sculpture from an important SO native.




and I didn't say anything about putting something beautiful anywhere, I just said that piece of crap Tau isn't a beauty, and I would rather see something else.
http://www.southorangevillage.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi?tpc=3132&post=571383#POST5713 83

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Dave
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Durand's masterpiece Kindred Spirits recently sold to a member of the Wal-Mart clan for about $35 million, the highest price ever paid for an American artist's work. Be glad Maplewood isn't bonding to aquire it!

If anyone was following the SO sculpture topic more closely, they'd learn it's not about the value of art, but about honesty in government, open public debate and democracy.
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Monster©
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think we can all agree that the government of SO has been grossly dishonest and misleading in regards to the statue debacle, amongst other things. Now when will somebody start the ball rolling on some kind of lawsuit or recall action against the BOT and assorted involved cronies., that's the action I want to follow next.
Perhaps the state should come and take over things like they did in Irvington (they did do that right, if I'm not mistaken,or was it another town, pretty sure it was Irvington).

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