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Lydia
Supporter Username: Lydial
Post Number: 1991 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 1:13 pm: |
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No - facts does not live on Durand - she was walking up Durand.
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ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 5238 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 2:32 pm: |
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"I saw you trudging up Durand about 30 minutes ago..." Oh, Oh... I think I saw a Puddy Cat trudging up Durand? Was the sighting a Fact or Fiction? It looks like this may be turning into a real nasty cat fight. Be careful girls and/or boy... |
   
Bob K
Supporter Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11869 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 3:23 pm: |
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Heading to Millburn? LOL |
   
bottomline
Citizen Username: Bottomline
Post Number: 447 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 5:30 pm: |
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WHOA – Jump Back!! Here’s my advice to anyone interested in being active in Maplewood politics: don’t send any e-mails to Lydia. A couple of years go by and she might just decide to share them with the world.
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Lydia
Supporter Username: Lydial
Post Number: 1994 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 6:05 pm: |
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Bottomline, which is worse? Sharing e-mails or the deed the e-mail confirms? Factsvfiction made it her personal mission to hound me on MOL and tell people that I have "gone to the dark side" (meaning I support DeLuca and Huemer) Why would she say that? Because I've had enough of the political back-stabbing and dirty tricks? I have. I was content to "retire" and let sleeping dogs lie (no pun intended), I'm well aware that "the other side" has pulled plenty of distasteful moves also. As a matter of fact, I've never been shy about posting about their nonsense either.
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Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 702 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 6:05 pm: |
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Hey people I do happen to live in MSH. Now if those small green guys from outer space can just comeback and pick Lydia up.... Lydia I never said anything of the sort about you in any post which anyone can look at or for. Is it a "senior" moment here? Bob K- As you seem to recognize I do live with the educational "swells" in MSH. |
   
algebra2
Supporter Username: Algebra2
Post Number: 4122 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 6:56 pm: |
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WHOA Bottomline. I send plenty of emails to Lydia.  |
   
Lydia
Supporter Username: Lydial
Post Number: 1995 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 7:29 pm: |
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Facts - keep posting...and I'll match you post for post - for example: "Can you have [posters] post this. Dave hasn't approved my new handle yet. Maybe he knows it was a fake person. It can go under the Dems for Art thread. It's time to blow the whistle on Huemer. The man is into serious falsification about his "record." Let's start with his campaign hand-out. Among other things,he claims to be "A Leader on Fiscal Responsibility." And what is his evidence? Huemer wants you to believe that, as Chair of the town's Finance Committee, he "has improved Maplewood's surplus and financial standing." Wow! He has nothing to do with managing Maplewood's money and creating efficiencies. That is done by the town's Chief Financial Officer, Peter Fresulone, and the administrator, Michele Meade. And then Huemer claims to have "changed banks" and garnered "over $100,000 in higher interest and reduced fees." Again, another Fresulone decision. All Huemer has done is sit on a committee to which Fresulone reports his successes. Huemer's "fiscal responsibility" is best measured by the tax increases that he consistently favors. My goodness, in 2003, even DeLuca criticized him for telling the BOE that he would vote to approve any school budget it delivered. And in the News-Record several weeks ago, DeLuca opposed Huemer's vote not to use more of the town's "record surplus" for tax relief. Truth is that Huemer has done little in three years but show up for Township Committee meetings. There is more falsification in his literature. But that is the subject for later posts. Allison Ziefert" Just so you know - the next e-mails I make public are from 10/04 - think twice before you make another nasty accusation. |
   
The Libertarian
Citizen Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 2041 Registered: 3-2004

| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 8:37 pm: |
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Lydia- Anyone who finds Kinky Freidman to be somehow engaging, or even mildly entertaining, should really be spending their time doing the Texas two-step at some hootananny joint or spitting chewing tobacco whilst they milk their cows, rather than posting on MOL. the kinkster writes some of the funniest books that i have ever read. He is a genius. If you take anything he says seriously then you dont get it. |
   
Dave
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 9911 Registered: 4-1997

| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 8:39 pm: |
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I just want to go on record saying I have no fake person detector. |
   
Carl Thompson
Citizen Username: Topcat
Post Number: 204 Registered: 4-2003

| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 9:11 pm: |
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Dave, Does that mean you have no way to know whether a given poster is an android or a human? |
   
Lydia
Supporter Username: Lydial
Post Number: 1997 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 9:18 pm: |
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Libertarian - That's not my quote about Kinky - I've been a fan of his for 20 years. It's factvfiction. Speaking of "facts" - your message tonight on my answering machine was totally creepy - methinks thou dost protest too much. |
   
Wendy
Supporter Username: Wendy
Post Number: 2627 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 9:19 pm: |
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How could he "Carl?" It takes one to know one. And Lydia keep the faith girl. A pleasure to look you in the eye and know you believe what you say and say what you believe. Perhaps if we don't divide the world into Profetas and DeLucas but rather those who can stand by what they say, post and email that is the better distinction. What say you? Wendy Lauter |
   
Lydia
Supporter Username: Lydial
Post Number: 1998 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 9:35 pm: |
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Wendy - thanks. I'm feeling the heat on and off-line to shut up. This is the open government I worked so hard for? Beginning to think I was on the wrong side, or maybe both sides are wrong. Most likely the latter. |
   
anon
Supporter Username: Anon
Post Number: 2801 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 10:25 pm: |
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Wendy, Lydia: I really wish I knew what the two of you are talking about. Who is pressuring Lydia, and by what means? Who is FvF really? |
   
Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 703 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 10:49 pm: |
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Lydia- I am not an Allison Zeifert, nor do I know you, nor do I leave telephone messages for you which would be difficult because I don't have your number, don't know who you are, and certainly would have no interest talking to you. If you held some sort of responsible position in Maplewood and have since resigned or left it I think it was a good call given your bizarre and IMHO, paranoid, responses to my posts. |
   
SO Ref
Citizen Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 1917 Registered: 2-2005

| Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 11:36 pm: |
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One positive for Jamie is that he lives in the Maplewood Village, so he wouldn't need a commuter parking space nor have reason to take up any municipal spots. There is a "Gate" near his apartment, but let's hope no one crashes into St. James. BTW - I'm 35 and love Imus... |
   
Paul Surovell
Supporter Username: Paulsurovell
Post Number: 631 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 12:47 am: |
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And Jamie has a surveillance camera which can save the Township some dough ... |
   
Lydia
Supporter Username: Lydial
Post Number: 1999 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 5:56 am: |
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Subject: MOL Date: 10/28/04 3:50 PM "Lydia: Allison is not likely to get approved to post under her new identity. I have given her a good post that [other MOLers] might want to go with. I have asked her to get it to you. You don't know the source. Fred" |
   
Bob K
Supporter Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11873 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 7:48 am: |
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Lydia, FvF isn't one of your former friends and is a guy, not a gal. No spin doctor is going to go to the degree he has to establish his credentials, including having a detailed knowledge of Millburn/Short Hills' politics and BOE issues. He also likes confrontation and will zero in on anyone he thinks is vulnerable to his brand of posting. I admit you got me going with the "woman walking up Durand", if the person is who I assumed that would have been really big news. Allison posting under any of a number of screen names she uses here isn't, although I am 99% sure FvF isn't a MDC operative and thats the bottomline. |
   
Lydia
Supporter Username: Lydial
Post Number: 2000 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 8:32 am: |
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Psst - Bobbest - I never said FvF was Ms. Ziefert - FvF went forward with the denial all by himself. Denied being a woman whom I assume his character doesn't even know. Then implied that I'm paranoid - lol! |
   
Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 707 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 8:48 am: |
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Bob K- " vulnerable to his brand of posting"? What does that mean, exactly? MDC operative?- No. Good Government Afficienado? - Yes. I like what I have seen being done in Maplewood over recent years. That being said I think electing an independent TC member like Jamie Ross would be healthy and useful to real debate and good decisions. Lydia- Actually I do think your paranoid about women who happen to be walking up Durand, which I am/was not. Get a grip. Jamie Ross- Sorry about Lydia hijacking your thread with her obsessions. I will decline to respond further. This should be about you. I respect what your doing greatly BTW. |
   
Duncan
Supporter Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6560 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 9:58 am: |
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Next year I'm gonna run. Stand up comic, no prayer...Actor...just think Ronnie. Only lots more left.
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Parkbench87
Citizen Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4425 Registered: 7-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:07 am: |
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Whatever happened to lawyers running for public office?  |
   
Bob K
Supporter Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11877 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:17 am: |
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FvF, don't take it personally, but you like confrontation. |
   
Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 711 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 5:25 pm: |
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Duncan- You are way too liberal. People want an quasi-Republican if taxes will be a big issue next year. Besides Bush is not on the Maplewood TC to run against. Bob K- Damn, I can't believe you think of me that way. I am the nicest of guys. Jamie Ross- I would glad to be your outside consultant.Think James Carville with hair, better looks, no mumbling, no southern accent, and no failed cable show. |
   
shestheone
Citizen Username: Shestheone
Post Number: 293 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 8:09 am: |
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Did I understand Lydia's 6/20 5:56 post correctly? Fred is giving other people posts for MOL but he's not willing to post them under his own name?? And what does it mean, "You don't know the source?" |
   
Tom Reingold
Supporter Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14791 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 1:09 pm: |
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Dave wrote: I just want to go on record saying I have no fake person detector. Duly noted, but that only means you can't detect fake people any better than the rest of us can.
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Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 721 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 1:10 pm: |
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Does Jamie Ross have any political platform yet? |
   
Tom Reingold
Supporter Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14792 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 1:11 pm: |
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I think he said something about a township ordinance that requires people to use their real names on MOL.
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Dave
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 9925 Registered: 4-1997

| Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 1:13 pm: |
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The promotion of equitable and sustainable socio-economic development, preservation and promotion of cultural values, conservation of the natural environment, and establishment of good governance.
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Aquaman
Supporter Username: Aquaman
Post Number: 957 Registered: 8-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 1:59 pm: |
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Crazy lib.
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Bob K
Supporter Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11899 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 6:56 pm: |
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Dave, how about, "Mom and Apple Pie".  |
   
Larry Seltzer
Citizen Username: Elvis
Post Number: 52 Registered: 4-2006

| Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 7:41 pm: |
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Gee, he's really going out on a limb there. What's his position on waste and fraud in government? Does he believe that children are our future? |
   
Nohero
Supporter Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5527 Registered: 10-1999

| Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 7:48 pm: |
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Mr. Seltzer - Summer officially began at 8:26 this morning. As a result, there can be no serious political discussions until the start of Fall, on September 23 at 12:03 a.m. Or Labor Day, take your pick ... |
   
Dave
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 9930 Registered: 4-1997

| Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 8:05 pm: |
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Exactly so. Also, I am not to be considered an actual spokesperson for this campaign. For example, I'm not sure if he would go out on a limb. I think he would, but it might depend on the diameter of the limb, its altitude and what's on the ground beneath it. He would definitely bike up a volcano, though. |
   
anon
Supporter Username: Anon
Post Number: 2803 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 8:13 pm: |
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So maybe the TC campaign is going to fun. |
   
Aquaman
Supporter Username: Aquaman
Post Number: 958 Registered: 8-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 9:10 pm: |
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Dave, "I am not to be considered an actual spokesperson for this campaign." You're a nice enough fellow, but you lack campaign experience. No offense. I managed a hugely successful online campaign. My candidate brought home the bronze medal. Although I am a very busy man, I formally offer my services to manage Jamie's online campaign. Please don't thank me, it's my pleasure. The following is confidential and only to be read by campaign workers for Jamie. STOP READING if you are not on the campaign team! WARNING! Here's the problem folks, Jamie isn't diverse. Jamie is a good name, it's boy/girl (think Kim or Dakota) but there's no sis-boom-bah, no zing, "zing" if you will. We must re-position "Jamie Ross" as "Jamie Ross-Tickles-Bear", it's polysylabbic, Lanape, and oh-so Maplewood. I offer Jamie my services for a nominal fee and I eagerly await your reply. Yours Truly, Dr. Arthur Curry, PhD
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Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 725 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 10:52 pm: |
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Dave- I believe Jamie Ross has to incorporate " a chicken in every pot" as part of his somewhat sparse platform at the moment. He could of course use a rubber chicken. Aquaman- It is my opinion that to use you as a political consultant would be akin to hiring that Shrum character who has lost just about every presidential election in recent history for the democrats. I think you would have a better future going into gate repair. |
   
Dave
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 9935 Registered: 4-1997

| Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 11:24 pm: |
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The League of Awesomeness will be running the campaign, but you two can be the co-chairs of the Thought Experiments Committee, which will run Jamie's focus groups. There are still openings on the following: It's Not Really Our Money to Spend Committee The Former Mayor's Picnic and Potato Sack Race Committee Linux in Government Committee Galapagos Islands Sister City Committee
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