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     ajc Citizen Username: Ajc Post Number: 1938 Registered: 9-2001 |
Dearest "S", Turn around is fair play, so please excuse me if I seem a little petty and picky... I won't defend E&J or myself on every issue, but as long as you want to defend K&K, because they refuse to make themselves accessible to the alleged “12” of us who would challenge them on-line, I want to question you on their ability to focus on Maplewood… First of all you said, “they don't stand for dart throwing when it comes to trying to invent, identify and then find solutions for problems.” Really? The only presence they have on MOL is their web page, and that’s a problem they can’t seem to identify or find a solution for... U.S. Senator Richard J. Codey, 2003 It looks like Richard J. Codey has gotten a promotion to U.S. Senator?? I agree it's petty stuff, but do they proof anything? If they want to run this town, they need to focus on details. Ed and Joel have brought several mistakes in their web page to their attention on two (2) separate occasions now, and this was their third attempt to correct it and they still don't have it right. Q. Will they take responsibility for what goes wrong on their watch, or will they pass the buck to someone else? Seeing as how it would appear they don’t care what anyone on MOL thinks, and they refuse to make themselves available to us, I guess you’ll have to answer for them. Honestly, and don’t give me any smart-ass answer. If after three tries they can't find time to proof their own campaign information about themselves, when will they ever find time to check all the many details that need to be checked on if they're elected to the township committee? Don’t you think this is carrying, “In the Bag” a little to far? I would go on, but I’m really laughing too hard about the rest of your comments.... “You're too good for that babe.” Come on, you better than anyone should know how bad I can be...  Speaking of laughing, before K&K stops laughing, tell them BALANCED GOVERNMENT is a two party system, and all the divisions within them. You know, Liberal v. Conservative, etc. | ||
| Ed May Citizen Username: Edmay Post Number: 1768 Registered: 9-2001  |
dave call me ken, call me kathy, call me joel, i do not care - just don't call me crazy or art! ps i did not get the private line Ed May | ||
| ajc Citizen Username: Ajc Post Number: 1940 Registered: 9-2001 |
How about if we just don't call you at all, would that be better Ed....? | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 10254 Registered: 10-2001  |
Even Arturo has thrown in the towel on you Ed. It's official. ---> Brought to you by Sbenois Engineering LLC <- Please check out Fringe's Excellent Website: http://hometown.aol.com/njfabian | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 10255 Registered: 10-2001 |
Dearest "S", Turn around is fair play, so please excuse me if I seem a little petty and picky... Pick away. I'll still love you, but not as much as I love Libby. Give her a kiss for me I won't defend E&J or myself on every issue, but as long as you want to defend K&K, because they refuse to make themselves accessible to the alleged “12” of us who would challenge them on-line, I want to question you on their ability to focus on Maplewood… First of all you said, “they don't stand for dart throwing when it comes to trying to invent, identify and then find solutions for problems.” Yes I did write that. Really? The only presence they have on MOL is their web page, and that’s a problem they can’t seem to identify or find a solution for... U.S. Senator Richard J. Codey, 2003 They appear to have fixed it. Personally I think the picture of them with Codey is goofy. Speaking of goofy, this picture of Ed and Don Rickles is equally goofy. I'm still waiting for the picture of Ed and Jack Benny together.  Of course, I am very impressed with Don's ability to get the cover of TV Guide. I assume that Ken and Kathy will soon be appearing in People  It looks like Richard J. Codey has gotten a promotion to U.S. Senator?? I agree it's petty stuff, but do they proof anything? It's symptomatic of the flaws of the ruling class of our society don't you think? Dastardly villians I say. If they want to run this town, they need to focus on details. Like Ed and Don? Details huh? Ed and Joel have brought several mistakes in their web page to their attention on two (2) separate occasions now, and this was their third attempt to correct it and they still don't have it right. I'm sure that K&K slightly appreciate it. As a special public service, may I point out that Ed and Joel haven't updated THEIR website in five months. The text out there was written by Ed prior to June 12th and contains none of the visionary statements that these two soothsayers are semi-legendary for. Q. Will they take responsibility for what goes wrong on their watch, or will they pass the buck to someone else? Hmmmm. So it appears that you are subconsciously admitting that K&K are going to win. Okay. Now that we're on the same page, how's about some positivity Mr. Electron? They could do some things right. Yes? Say YES brother Arturo! Yes is better than no. Seeing as how it would appear they don’t care what anyone on MOL thinks, and they refuse to make themselves available to us, I guess you’ll have to answer for them. I'm not answering for them at all. I'm giving my personal opinions and observations. Honestly, and don’t give me any smart-ass answer. I have never given a smart-ass answer in my life. Not once Arturo. You know that. Shame on you. If after three tries they can't find time to proof their own campaign information about themselves, when will they ever find time to check all the many details that need to be checked on if they're elected to the township committee? Look Arturo, just between the two of us (we'll pretend the other ten aren't reading this) I've never been particularly impressed with either Ken or Kathy's ability to post. Neither of them is very skilled at getting a half decent classified ad out there for public consumption. But Mr. Arturo, have you ever read Don's posts? YEEEEEEECH The Sbenois Universal Translator ran out of batteries three times before it understood that macroni salald was a type of fish! In the grand scheme of the political universe, proof reading a fifth rate website that only 40 people are going to look at is really trivial. DON'T YA THINK? In fact, I'm kind of sorry that they changed their website to correct the heinous Codey mistake. I hope they change it again to say something like endorsed by Constable Elect Codey It would allow me to work a new angle into the magical teleplay I've written on the exploits of Ed and Don. Would you like a preview??? Don’t you think this is carrying, “In the Bag” a little to far? Nah. It's over. I would go on, but I’m really laughing too hard about the rest of your comments.... “You're too good for that babe.” Come on, you better than anyone should know how bad I can be... Give us another kiss. Hey, should I drag the old material out on you and Fred in 1957 at Curley's? That was some classic stuff bud Speaking of laughing, before K&K stops laughing, tell them BALANCED GOVERNMENT is a two party system, and all the divisions within them. You know, Liberal v. Conservative, etc. Um Art, how exactly do you get balanced government when there are five seats? Now let's see 5/2=2.5 Are you going to make Fred an Independent again? Sheesh, that'll get Marie going. ---> Brought to you by Sbenois Engineering LLC <- Please check out Fringe's Excellent Website: http://hometown.aol.com/njfabian | ||
| luanda Citizen Username: Luanda Post Number: 40 Registered: 2-2002 |
What Art is really concerned about is that there are two sets of Republican candidates this year. Ed and Joel are the candidates of the "old" Republican Party of Maplewood (you know the one I mean - the one with 4 members under the age of 70), while Ken and Kathy are running for the "new" Republicans of Maplewood, sometimes called (when we're in a nostalgic mood) the Maplewood Democratic Committee. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 10256 Registered: 10-2001 |
It's a nice theory, but the boys at Sbenois and Sbenois just called to remind me that the nostalgic set of the MDC seemed to not have any qualms about Kathy being their elected rep two years ago. And now she's a Republican too? Sbenois is going to make a special appeal to the the nostalgic fans of the MDC: lose the snickering silly labels already. Your pouting is being muffled by the voices of too many reputable Democrats (Corzine, Codey, McKeon) who think that K&K are fellow Democrats. ---> Brought to you by Sbenois Engineering LLC <- Please check out Fringe's Excellent Website: http://hometown.aol.com/njfabian | ||
| luanda Citizen Username: Luanda Post Number: 41 Registered: 2-2002 |
Kathy a Republican? - no, not really - just a self-serving backstabber who'd hook up with almost anyone who offered her the shot. As for silly snickering labels??? Not that I'd consider the label "Republican" silly, but you really ought to take a good loooooong look in the mirror before accusing anyone else of being silly, snickering, or sophomoric. | ||
| ajc Citizen Username: Ajc Post Number: 1942 Registered: 9-2001 |
"no, not really - just a self-serving backstabber who'd hook up with almost anyone who offered her the shot. Wrong! Out of bounds... not this lady! She is a class act, and you shouldn't go there, not even in jest!  "but you really ought to take a good loooooong look in the mirror before accusing anyone else of being silly, snickering, or sophomoric." Now you're really in over your head!  | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 10257 Registered: 10-2001 |
Dearest Arturo, It's true. I snicker. I'm silly. I'm sophomoric (although I never used that word in my post). I am guilty as charged. Nevertheless I do believe that Luanda's response more than proves my original point. Like you Arturo, I am looking forward. How is the Ring of Fire doing? I went to the Home Depot today and bought a new topiary. When I got outside, I waited for the bus for 6 hours. Nothing. ---> Brought to you by Sbenois Engineering LLC <- Please check out Fringe's Excellent Website: http://hometown.aol.com/njfabian | ||
| ajc Citizen Username: Ajc Post Number: 1943 Registered: 9-2001 |
"S", you’re right, I'm so looking forward to next year... The Ring of Fire petition is actually doing very well. Over 300 signatures so far and about a dozen individuals are circulating some in their own neighborhoods. I hope to have 1,000 by the election next month, and double that number by January 1st. There is really no sense in me turning the petitions in until we have the new township committee in place. My feeling is that Jerry thinks it's a joke, and I doubt Vic has changed his mind on the subject since last year. As for David, Fred, Ian, and the new members of the committee, well, we'll just have to wait and see? BTW, I find it strange that you haven’t signed in on to the new police department thread yet. You know how I’d love to engage your brain on this one. Look for it in the Soapbox section under "Plans for police unveiled". As I recall from last year, you didn't like my chain drug store plan for the library being so close to your baseball field. Well, the plans I saw has the new police building within 40' of the first base line. Also, check out this Trapper guy; he seems to have a handle on the issue... On another matter, I'm glad to see we can both agree that TOTAL QUALITY MANAGEMENT holds the possibility that the TC can bring Maplewood's cost structure under control with some degree of tax impact predictability. Speaking of predictability, it sure it would be reassuring to many of us if K&K could let us know if they were willing to look at some form of a TQM program next year. The new TC needs to find a way of doing something to reduce, or at least hold the line on our property taxes, property taxes, property taxes, property taxes, property taxes, property taxes, property taxes …. I know, I know... I heard what you said about only allowing seven (7) property tax increases a year, but I still don't understand what you mean? Good night... | ||
| bottomline Citizen Username: Bottomline Post Number: 17 Registered: 8-2003 |
ajc, You’ve mentioned the balanced government idea many times. I’m curious, who were you voting for during all those decades when there were 5 Republicans on the TC? I can remember in the 1980’s when the Democratic candidates tried the same pitch. Did you vote for the Democrats then, in order to support balanced government? | ||
| ajc Citizen Username: Ajc Post Number: 1944 Registered: 9-2001 |
Actually, no! During most of those years it was more about, if it ain't broken, don't fix it... The Republicans during that time appointed a lot of Democrats to positions of responsibility. Ken Pettis’s name for one should ring a bell. And, this was not to say there weren't any good Democratic candidates, because there were, and some of them eventually got elected. The truth is I like to think it was always about the candidate, which is not the way I see it today. Fred is a good example of what it takes for a good candidate to get elected, and that was he had to go from an Independent to a Democrat. Honestly, I think that sucks, and so does all the political infighting this year with the Democratic Party in town…. Personally, I am, I always have, and always will favor non-partisan local elections. I realize even when that would happen, known Democrats, Republicans, and Independents will still be running. But, the mere idea that our elections would then be more about the person and not the party, I feel would eventually garner more interest, better candidates, and more voters. Look Bottomline, as long as you're interested in how I think, you might as well know I also support Maplewood re-joining the Township of South Orange. I'd even consider adding in Millburn and Short Hills into the mix. The way so many New Yorkers are moving into our communities, they would have no problem understanding the Boro concept. (Maplewood Boro, Millburn Boro, South Orange Boro, etc.) Think about it, just one government, one police and fire department, one town hall, one school system; all saving us hundreds of thousands of dollars in payroll and combining equipment and service requirements throughout two, three, or more totally compatible towns. I just salivate at the sheer thought of it!!! I can all but guarantee things will change for the better, and in the future when "South Mountain, New Jersey" has something to say, I'll bet that Essex County and the State of New Jersey will listen to us much differently. Anymore questions? | ||
| Ed May Citizen Username: Edmay Post Number: 1772 Registered: 9-2001 |
One of the problems with anonymous posting is that cowards get to take pot shots at real people, such as the pot shot taken at Kathy above. To call her a "self-serving backstabber who'd hook up with almost anyone who offered her the shot' is truly a cheap shot. Kathy is a person of principle who is running, in her mind, for the right reasons. She is owed an apology for that cheap shot. Ed May | ||
| Ed May Citizen Username: Edmay Post Number: 1773 Registered: 9-2001 |
On a different note, Joel and I would like to offer our esteemed opposition a proposal about LAWN SIGNS. For the sake of the town's beauty, the May-Ziegler Campaign offers to refrain from using lawn signs, if the Pettis-Leventhal Campaign agrees to do likewise. We won't put up signs if they do not put up signs. The choice is theirs. "Lawn sign free in 2003" or the traditional cacophony of distracting placards that detract from Maplewood's bucolic fall beauty. Recognizing that Kathy and Ken may not be following this thread, and are certainly loathe to post here, I have emailed this proposal to their campaign manager. The public will know the response of Kathy and Ken, when and if, the citizenry witness the sudden over night blossoming of "Pettis-Leventhal" signs on lawns around our heretofor beautiful town. Ed May | ||
| Ed May Citizen Username: Edmay Post Number: 1774 Registered: 9-2001 |
On a different note, Joel and I would like to offer our esteemed opposition a proposal about LAWN SIGNS. For the sake of the town's beauty, the May-Ziegler Campaign offers to refrain from using lawn signs, if the Pettis-Leventhal Campaign agrees to do likewise. We won't put up signs if they do not put up signs. The choice is theirs. "Lawn sign free in 2003" or the traditional cacophony of distracting placards that detract from Maplewood's bucolic fall beauty. Recognizing that Kathy and Ken may not be following this thread, and are certainly loathe to post here, I have emailed this proposal to their campaign manager. The public will know the response of Kathy and Ken, when and if, the citizenry witness the sudden over night blossoming of "Pettis-Leventhal" signs on lawns around our heretofor beautiful town. Ed May | ||
| Marilyn May Citizen Username: Marilynmay Post Number: 169 Registered: 7-2002 |
In addition to this EXACT verbatim extract from the Pettis-Leventhal website I just wanted to add that Town Hall is open late on Monday October 6th for the primary purpose of accepting Voter Registration Cards so that you can vote in the November 4th GENERAL ELECTION.  "Primary Day: Tuesday, November 4th Polls are open from 6 AM to 8 PM. If you have a question about the location of your polling place, contact the Township Clerk: 973-762-8120. Voter Registration Forms must be received by the County Clerk no later than October 6th." | ||
| Joel S. Ziegler Citizen Username: Joelziegler Post Number: 46 Registered: 4-2003  |
If K&K were into TQM would not their web site be 'error free' in 2003/ Mr. Z | ||
| aquaman Citizen Username: Aquaman Post Number: 135 Registered: 8-2001 |
Joel, Did you mean to put a slash mark to indicate that your sentence was a question? Or was there a TQM Snafu involved? You also posted,
Again, problem with the pesky punctuation? And who the hell is Daver? Please, please, please stop with the nit-picking. You seem to making the argument that with you and Ed, and TQM, there will be no errors. No matter how small. Allow me to post only some of your fine TQM-enabled responses from this very thread:
And perhaps my favorite:
Marilyn, oh nevermind. | ||
| ajc Citizen Username: Ajc Post Number: 1945 Registered: 9-2001 |
A good point has been tactfully made that joking around on line has no proper place in a political campaign. A word to the wise should be sufficient. Thank you Aquaman… |
