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Dan Kaslow
Citizen
Username: Dank3265
Post Number: 8
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 17, 2004 - 7:25 pm: |     |
As posted previously, a new grassroots organization has been set up to meet the needs of many who had a desire to contribute to the community through greater political involvement.
The organization hopes to serve as a catalyst for reform and change on many vital issues, including: election standards, seniors, local political organizations, property taxation and education funding.
It plans to do this by conducting research to educate its members and others on the impact and implications of these issues in their communities. Forums are planned for sharing information with neighbors in places of worship, local gatherings and basic neighbor-to-neighbor communications. Members will be also encouraged to learn more about the local political process.
Our first meeting took place on December 14. attended by 43 peoplein the meeting room at South Orange Public Library. Everyone had an opportunity to express a view on issues they felt should be addressed. Groups are now being formed to develop plans to address these issues.
We adjourned, with our next meeting scheduled for January 11. We'd be delighted to have you attend our next meeting and will keep you posted on our activities if you send us a note.
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Reflective
Citizen
Username: Reflective
Post Number: 603
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 10:14 pm: | |
(Can't resist this opportunity)
Dan:
Since the Bd of Education ruled no religious education in an education institution
Why don't you just forget having an educational forum in any religious institution? |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 3333
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 11:45 pm: | |
"As posted previously, a new grassroots organization has been set up to meet the needs of many who had a desire to contribute to the community through greater political involvement."
I'm sorry but I must have missed your previous post about this new organization. Can you please tell me where I can find it? BTW, does this group have a name and is it bi-partisan?
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Joan
Citizen
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 4507
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 8:18 am: | |
Just out of curiousity, why did a newly formed Maplewood grass roots organization find it necessary to conduct the first meeting out of town (in South Orange)? |
Just The Aunt
Citizen
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 367
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 8:30 am: | |
Joan-
I was thinking the same thing! I even reread the first post a few times to be sure! Then read the rest of the notes to make sure it didn't include both towns. lol |
Barbara
Citizen
Username: Blh
Post Number: 391
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 9:23 am: | |
Joan
Is South Orange really "out of town?" |
Dave
Moderator
Username: Dave
Post Number: 4753
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 9:37 am: | |
Previous message is here
/discus/messages/3132/50394.html
Appears to be partisan. |
Dave
Moderator
Username: Dave
Post Number: 4754
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 9:38 am: | |
And here
/discus/messages/3132/51364.html |
Reflective
Citizen
Username: Reflective
Post Number: 605
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 11:03 am: | |
Thanks Dave.....the light of knowledge is beginning to part the clouds.
Hey Dan, keep all of your politics away from our churches.
Of course your party believes heavily in using black churches for its own political purposes. At some point, the churches will lose their tax status.
But I believe that is also one of your movement's goals. |
Dave
Moderator
Username: Dave
Post Number: 4756
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 11:37 am: | |
There was a lot of politicking in churches by Rove, too. Not what Tom Jefferson would like from either side, really. |
Reflective
Citizen
Username: Reflective
Post Number: 606
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 5:39 pm: | |
Dave:
Strongly agree with your second sentence.
Am seriously not aware of rove religious politicking - can you provide example? or source site (please don't say michael moore or moveon...)
Thanks |
Dave
Moderator
Username: Dave
Post Number: 4781
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 5:46 pm: | |
How about Bloomberg
quote: Four months after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Karl Rove used a rare public speech to disclose his re-election strategy for George W. Bush: hammering home the theme that the president would make the country safer.
Privately, Rove was engineering a different plan: cultivating church leaders who could help lure back to the voting booths the 4 million evangelical Christians who Rove believed had ditched Bush in 2000 because he had a drunk-driving record.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aRubzbcnB2Z4&refer=us |
Reflective
Citizen
Username: Reflective
Post Number: 608
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 6:16 pm: | |
You are very good!
But cultivating church leaders is vastly different then candidates going into churches on Sundays, standing in front of the congregation and attacking his / her opponent. The dems do this. I am not aware of rep candidates doing this.
Last, I also would resent and work against my minister, if he/she became a recurring vocal mouthpiece for any political candidate or agenda.
Because, the precious tax-exempt status of that religious institutions is at risk.
Anyway, Dave, thanks, you are the greatest and fastest archive grabber, ever! |
Mark Fuhrman
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 1100
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 2:16 pm: | |
Huh? Jerry Falwell? Pat Robertson? It is all over, and it sure is not limited to Dems:
Religion/World View
My Pastor Kept Asking Us To Pray For George Bush To Win
By Charles C Haynes
Nov 28, 2004, 19:53
"My pastor kept asking us to pray for George Bush to win," a Georgia woman told me last week, "and most folks seemed to go along with it. So I just kept quiet and secretly prayed for the other side."
_http://www.axisoflogic.com/cgi-bin/exec/view.pl?archive=80&num=13971&printer=1
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US President George Bush, seeking to mobilise religious conservatives for his re-election campaign, has asked church-going volunteers to turnover church membership directories.
In a move that religious leaders and civil libertarians have criticised, the Bush-Cheney campaign has issued a guide listing about two dozen "duties" and a series of deadlines for organising support among conservative congregations.
The guide directs religious volunteers to send church directories to state campaign committees, identify new churches that the Bush campaign can organise and to talk to clergy about holding voter registration drives.
The document, distributed to campaign co-ordinators across the country, also recommends that volunteers distribute voter guides in church and use Sunday service programs for get-out-the-vote drives.
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http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/rightsandfreedoms/a/bushchurch.htm
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Reflective
Citizen
Username: Reflective
Post Number: 640
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 7:03 pm: | |
yawn...... |
johnny
Citizen
Username: Johnny
Post Number: 1167
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 11:28 pm: | |
Doesn't the Rotary Club of Maplewood meet in South Orange?
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Mark Fuhrman
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 1107
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 9:41 am: | |
Reflective you are not. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 3386
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 12:15 pm: | |
Yes, the Maplewood Rotary meets every Tuesday evening at 6:30 at Cyrans... Tonight's meeting will be at Cafe Arugula for our annual Christmas Party.
However, I still plan to run over to the Baird Center for a few minutes to check out this meeting.
I'm always interested in learning about any new grassroot organizations being set up to meet the needs of those who desire to contribute to the community through greater political involvement. |
Soda
Supporter
Username: Soda
Post Number: 2321
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 1:38 pm: | |
Art, you really do have a VERY short memory. Didn't you just recently write:
"Listen pal, you and your kind can dress this fledgling organization up any way you want. A rose by any other name is still a rose… and in this case, a group of left wing radicals unwilling to work within the Democratic Party, is still a group of radicals. Hitler and his little group of extremists managed to take over an entire country based on a simple plan to get things their exactly their way.
My concerns were raised when Dan crossed the line and wants to involve our local politicians in his home grown war against our national political system. Stating that the groups “Primary Focus” would be to exert efforts to influence local, state, and national political issues in of itself is fine, however, this interest was clearly brought about by the stunning defeat of his national party candidate, John Kerry. If Mr. Dan Kaslow is so interested in shaping “National Politics”, he should run for President of the United States of America, but just keep our township committee out of it. Sorry, his ideas to change the system belong in some cave in Afghanistan.
Here in Maplewood we have enough to keep us all busy paying our property tax, building cell towers and dog runs, eating hotdogs, and yes, singing karaoke."
Why, yes, I believe you did, but no matter. You're not that guy, are you? In any event, I do hope you RSVP'd to Dan, so you'll be on the list of attendees when HUAC is reactivated by your rightwing nutcase Republican House Speaker or some other equally fairminded Redstate congressman looking to make a name for themselves with The Folks Back Home.
-s.
BTW: Dan, In case Art forgot to RSVP, you should be aware how much he really wants to "check you out". So, to assist you in recognizing him, here's a little visual aid: 
See you there, Dan. |
Reflective
Citizen
Username: Reflective
Post Number: 645
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 7:35 pm: | |
Soda
art has shaved his beard, don't you have the other mug shot?
He is also bald. Very few know this. This is why he sponsors Chelsea Set. My reason for disclosing this is that Art has the majestic ability to appear in multi personas.
So your photo above (his high school yearbook photo) is misleading.
BTW, can you post kaslow's photo? |
Soda
Supporter
Username: Soda
Post Number: 2323
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 10:14 pm: | |
Evidently Dan keeps a lower profile that Art does, hence no pix available for publication here. To his credit, though, Art did show up at the Grassroots meeting (albeit a bit late, thanks to what must have been a swingin' party with his fellow zany Maplewood Rotarians at Cafe Arugula...). I'll leave him to comment for himself on the Baird Cell Meeting.
-s.
BTW, Art: Doesn't Maplewood have any eateries suitable for either the Rotary's monthly or Holiday meetings? I mean, thanks very much for bringing your business to South Orange, and all, but aren't you guys pretty much snubbing Mapleberry by meeting and partying here? OR, is it just that you Rotarians are such a wild & crazy bunch that the restaurants in your own town will no longer host you? Just asking... |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 3387
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 11:52 pm: | |
Dearest Soda...
Seems I can always rely on you to fill in the gaps with your colorful commentary. To bad you didn’t come over to introduce yourself, well maybe next time…
FYI, the Maplewood Rotary is made up with a wonderful group of men and women, (some a little wild and crazy) who believe in "Service Above Self". This year marks 75 Years of service to the citizens of Maplewood, and yes, to many residents of South Orange as well.
South Orange also has its own Rotary Club and we often work very closely together. Not unlike our school system, we consider both towns as one, thus support all business in each town equally, (Two towns, one Community).
As for the "Grass Roots" group, I found Dan and Paul to be very open, candid, and friendly. I very much appreciated them coming over to me. I was able to briefly express my concerns and a wish to see the group emerge as bi-partisan. Dan agreed to keep me informed of the groups progress, and I wish them well.
BTW, I was pleased to recognize a number of respected community leaders in attendance, and I suspect after those who continue to attend these meetings decide on a name and a mission statement, I will be able to comment further.
One more thing Reflective, maybe you didn't notice I’m growing my beard back, and how did you know that was my High School Graduation picture? |
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