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     marian Citizen Username: Marian Post Number: 656 Registered: 9-2001 |
DeLuca has reached a whole new low in dirty politics. In an indication of how desperate the former mayor's campaign is right now, DeLuca is threatening to take the Township Committee race into court. In a May 27 letter, DeLuca's lawyer threatened Fred with a defamation suit. The reasons? GET THIS: Because Fred said during the Hilton debate that Vic engaged in unethical "bait and switch" tactics when his Citizen Action solicitors collected cash for Vic on the pretense that it was for Social Security preservation. Amazing! Don't Vic's lawyers know that truth is a defense? Don't they know that Vic is a public figure and that charges made during political debates are protected speech under the First Amendment???? But here's the larger point -- who could now believe that it makes any sense to vote for Fred and Vic? Is a defamation lawsuit what Vic had in mind when he talked about bringing "healthy disagreement" to the TC? Profeta and Grodman is the way to go. The alternative is utter insanity!!!!!!! | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 6563 Registered: 4-1997  |
What's the docket no.? | ||
| aquaman Supporter Username: Aquaman Post Number: 268 Registered: 8-2001 |
Is there a docket number assigned to a letter from a lawyer, Dave? | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 6564 Registered: 4-1997 |
My mistake. | ||
| Jeff Markel Citizen Username: Jeffmarkel Post Number: 106 Registered: 3-2002 |
I am working for Vic's campaign. I can say that this is completely, thoroughly, and patently untrue. | ||
| johnny Citizen Username: Johnny Post Number: 1259 Registered: 5-2001 |
Marian- Can you reveal your source? Provide proof? Who is your "deep throat"? | ||
| marian Citizen Username: Marian Post Number: 659 Registered: 9-2001 |
Johnny, I have been asked by Dave Ross to fax him the letter. I am not by a fax machine now, but will fax it to him in the next hour or so. This letter should be posted on MOL so all Maplewood voters can see exactly what kind of person they would be getting if they vote for Vic. There is no docket number yet. It is a "cease and desist" letter from Citizen Action to Fred ordering him to retract his bait and switch comments or else. Disgusting... | ||
| Jeff Markel Citizen Username: Jeffmarkel Post Number: 108 Registered: 3-2002 |
Dave - could you shut either this thread or the other one in All Politics down and consolidate them in one place? Thanks | ||
| Jeff Markel Citizen Username: Jeffmarkel Post Number: 109 Registered: 3-2002 |
As Marian now admits, this is NOT a letter from Vic DeLuca OR his campaign - it is from NJ Citizen Action. Citizen Action's website is at http://www.njcitizenaction.org/ | ||
| marian Citizen Username: Marian Post Number: 661 Registered: 9-2001 |
Jeff who is this Vic DeLuca person who sits on the board of DIRECTORS of Citizens Action??? | ||
| Jeff Markel Citizen Username: Jeffmarkel Post Number: 110 Registered: 3-2002 |
Dave - it might also be nice if, considering Marion's change of tack, the thread title(s) be changed to something a little more factual and a little less inflammatory. | ||
| Bob K Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 8657 Registered: 5-2001 |
Jeff, maybe you can answer a couple of simple questions? First, is Vic endorsed by CA? Second, were the solicitors here paid by CA? Third, were all the donations turned over to CA? Forth, Has DeLuca received campaign funding from CA? Thanks in advance. | ||
| johnny Citizen Username: Johnny Post Number: 1260 Registered: 5-2001 |
Jeff, The way I see it, Vic and Citizen's Action are closely affiliated. I don't think Citizen's Action would have send the letter without Vic's blessing. | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 6566 Registered: 4-1997 |
Found this
http://www.njcitizenaction.org/ They also began NJ Fair and Clean Elections (FACE). More on their work on campaign finance reform here: http://www.njcitizenaction.org/cfr.html I can certainly see the reason why they would want to protect their name against alleged statements by people that they are engaged in unethical campaign practices. | ||
| johnny Citizen Username: Johnny Post Number: 1261 Registered: 5-2001 |
So why are their people asking Maplewood citizens who they are going to vote for? | ||
| marian Citizen Username: Marian Post Number: 662 Registered: 9-2001 |
When Vic was asked at the Hilton debate about the Citizen Action solicitors going door to door for him, he said Citizen Action just "happened" to be canvassing in Maplewood right before the contested Democratic TC primary and just "happened" to be supporting him! YEAH, RIGHT! Talk about unethical...Wonder how they just happened to know about the contested election and just happened to be supporting DeLuca. Hmm...I wonder... | ||
| marian Citizen Username: Marian Post Number: 663 Registered: 9-2001 |
I also wonder what "happened" to the money that Citizen Action said they were collecting to support Social Security? | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 6569 Registered: 4-1997 |
johnny, Maybe they're a political action group? Shocking, I know… Before Bush it was cool to be for the environment, health care, campaign reform, etc. Maybe it will be in vogue again one day. | ||
| marian Citizen Username: Marian Post Number: 664 Registered: 9-2001 |
Dave, no doubt--but there's also no doubt that Vic is an officer there His name appears fourth on the list of the board of directors. This is also from NJCA's Leadership & History section of http://www.njcitizenaction.org/ NJCA Board of Directors Paulette Eberle, Co-Chair Hudson County Monday Morning Network; NJDDC David H. Weiner, Co-Chair CWA Local 1081 Frances Grant, Secretary DIAL Inc. – A Center for Independent Living Vic DeLuca, Treasurer / At-Large Member | ||
| Jeff Markel Citizen Username: Jeffmarkel Post Number: 112 Registered: 3-2002 |
There is a letter from Citizen Action, to Fred and to Doug Bland, requesting that they retract their accusations against the organization. As far as I know, there is no suggestion of a lawsuit. Citizen Action issued a press release on this subject - one that the N-R didn't publish. This is it: NEW JERSEY CITIZEN ACTION CALLS ON MAYOR PROFETA TO RETRACT REMARKS |
