| Author | Message | ||
     jayjay Citizen Username: Jayjayp Post Number: 510 Registered: 6-2005 |
How is it that he can "rent" spaces? What is that supposed to mean? Are these public spaces or not? I never heard that anyone can rent a public space. You have a permit for permit spots or you don't. You feed a meter or you don't. I am not aware of any other option. Or does he make rules to suit him? | ||
| jayjay Citizen Username: Jayjayp Post Number: 511 Registered: 6-2005 |
Oh, and let's not forget that Cryan was the one who went before the BOT to argue FOR putting Mary Theroux on the Parking Authority. Apparently conflict of interest is of no interest to him. If this valet parking thing is his MO, why would he care about conflict of interest? | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 147 Registered: 2-2006 |
Yes, rental of public spaces raises more questions than it answers. Who would approve the award of the spaces for rental? Do other businesses in the area know they can rent spaces? Is there a limit to how many any business could rent; if so, how is it decided and by whom? | ||
| Kristen Williamson Citizen Username: Kris219 Post Number: 189 Registered: 4-2005 |
I love how everyone jumped to these conclusions on how evil Jimmy is. What a shock, Sheena was right when she suggested that ppl should check the facts first, yet people felt it necessary to attack Sheena for not jumping on the bandwagon. Too bad Sheena can think for herself. Sheena, you're just crazy. And now that more questions are arising, why don't we try that "check the facts" tactic before we accuse the world of a conspiracy against us. | ||
| I.M. Porky Pig Citizen Username: Parkingsux Post Number: 358 Registered: 6-2005  |
I'm sorry, if there is rental of public spaces going on to a private business owner enough has been said. Add Mr. Mark Hartwyck to the list of administrators who should resign or be terminated forthwith. This is BULL! and I am PARKINGSUX - the guy in the picture is Porky Pig....  | ||
| Howard Levison Citizen Username: Levisonh Post Number: 501 Registered: 1-2004  |
Sheena, where did you get the information that he "rents" these spaces? Just fact/source checking. | ||
| MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 3642 Registered: 5-2001  |
I'm sure we can go to the Parking Authority and find receipts for these "rentals". Who is on the Parking Authority again? Uh...nevermind. | ||
| cmontyburns Citizen Username: Cmontyburns Post Number: 1787 Registered: 12-2003  |
Just remember: Everything is always a conspiracy. | ||
| Two Senses Citizen Username: Twosense Post Number: 421 Registered: 7-2004 |
Where's the price list for renting public parking spaces, for how long can a tenant stop the public from using them, and where does one sign up? As a governmental entity, surely the decision to rent public parking spaces to businesses was approved by SOPA's Board, and is equally available to all interested businesses. Now that the Village is renting out its property to business owners for private use, maybe it would be possible to rent the Shop Rite New Market site, and find a ready, willing, and able developer to proceed. I'd personally like to rent all of the spaces in front of the train station for my lazy friends who hate running for their train every morning. Now that would be fandamntacular! | ||
| Kristen Williamson Citizen Username: Kris219 Post Number: 190 Registered: 4-2005 |
JTA- What's the difference who answers, at least it's SH students who actually have answers and aren't just whining and complaining about Jimmy. Since no one is probably going to step up to answer these new questions, looks like we will probably end up doing it. I guess it's the college students who don't always believe what they're told. I'm a fan of thinking for myself and not being spoon-fed...and I believe Sheena feels the same way. | ||
| John Quincy Adams Citizen Username: Randolph_agarn Post Number: 2 Registered: 3-2006 |
It doesn't suprise me at all that SHU students are defending a bar owner that allows in underage drinkers. I wish I was a Cryan so that I could rent a parking space in town. Or maybe I should just go pick up a menu. | ||
| Kristen Williamson Citizen Username: Kris219 Post Number: 191 Registered: 4-2005 |
PS... JTA's post magically disappeared, so I was actually responding to something, it wasn't just my imagination. Her post went something along the lines of "And why do we have SH students answer for Jimmy Cryan?" So like I said, it doesn't matter who it is, at least it's someone relaying the info. | ||
| susan1014 Supporter Username: Susan1014 Post Number: 1438 Registered: 3-2002 |
Yes, can I have a Friday night space rental to make going downtown for dinner easier (since I don't choose Cryan's generally)? How much will it cost? Where do I apply? If it is kosher, then Mr. Cryan just needs to explain it to us all. Either it is available to every business, or it was approved by some channel not involving the board on which he sits. Right?? Asking the question does not trash the reputation, unless a good answer is never given. Forgive our suspicion of unattributed third party answers. When Mr. Cryan gives a clear answer himself, we will give him apologies for questioning, if appropriate. | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4442 Registered: 1-2004  |
Okay, I'm not a big fan of Cryan's as some who know me in RL know; BUT I have to defend Jimmy. I spoke to Jimmy and what was said about his 'renting spaces' is partly true. Jimmy did rent spaces on Saint Patrick's Day, BUT they were NOT in the town lots. He rented the parking lot of the doctor's who own the old First Street School. This is not a town owned lot, it is a private lot owned by the group of doctors who own the building. Due to the amount of people who were being parked, the line backed up for a short time. This is what Jimmy told me. I believe him. Edit to add: Not sure why the original poster saw what he did Saturday night. Maybe Jimmy rented the old school lot both nights? | ||
| Sheena Collum SHU Citizen Username: Sheena_collum Post Number: 624 Registered: 4-2005  |
I'm going to remove myself from this discussion since it just hit me... no matter what information is posted... it'll just segue into something else even more wrong. It moved from 'is Mr. Cryan valet parking?' to he's doing this 'illegally' to me telling you that he's been renting since January to a 'how did he pull that - you can't do that' mentality. Seems like a pattern. This thread is a no win and this is obviously a zero sum game so I'm out. I repeat - if you have questions, contact the business owner, he's more than receptive to any concerns that residents have. | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4443 Registered: 1-2004 |
Just confirmed with Jimmy he has been renting the lot at the doctor's office since January. This is NOT the town lot. | ||
| John Quincy Adams Citizen Username: Randolph_agarn Post Number: 6 Registered: 3-2006  |
Then are people seeing things with the cones taking up spaces? Jimmy Cryan can say all he wants that he is renting those space, but that has nothing to do with the fact that people have seen him using town parking. Although, that is a nice way for him to cover his tracks. You have to give him that. I am still going to go and pick up a menu for my window though | ||
| Two Senses Citizen Username: Twosense Post Number: 422 Registered: 7-2004 |
mrosner posted: "There is a parking authority meeting tonight at 7pm in village hall. I suggest if anyone has a question, they should attend and ask." Then he posted: "I did see the valet parking and the cones. I asked the valet parking person and he did not offer an explanation (nor did he move the cone). I took another space. I emailed one of the SOPA commissioners and will see if I can get an explanation." He presumably knows the difference between a public, municipal lot and one of the private lots on First Street, between Valley and Academy Streets. Are there any more witnesses, who can describe in which lot they observed traffic cones being used to reserve spaces (and whether the cones, which are not exactly standard tools of the pub biz, had SOPA markings)? | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4444 Registered: 1-2004 |
John- That I don't know about and can't figure out. His explanation about the doctor's lot sounded logical to me. But I am confused about jeep seeing the cones in the town lot. I did tell Jimmy people have seen cones in some of the spots in the town lot and they were told by the people valet parking they were for Cryan's customers. I guess all we can do is see what happens this weekend. I have a feeling whatever was happening in the town lots won't be happening anymore now that it's been brought to the attention of others. | ||
| Mrs. Esterhouse Citizen Username: Robert_g Post Number: 3 Registered: 3-2006 |
Sheena, Looks as if you freequent Cryans or are good friends with Jimmy. Either way you seem to be defending those darn parking spaces. | ||
| AntoninaKC Citizen Username: Antoninakc Post Number: 220 Registered: 5-2005  |
John Quincy-To my knowledge, Sheena and Kristen are 21, so its not like they participate in underage drinking at Cryans. "know the facts!" | ||
| John Quincy Adams Citizen Username: Randolph_agarn Post Number: 8 Registered: 3-2006 |
AntoninaKC - I never said that those two participated in underage drinking. But, I know Cryans allows underage drinkers because I used to be under 21. And when I was over 21 and was with people under 21 that is where we would go. That is because Cryans does not care. | ||
| AntoninaKC Citizen Username: Antoninakc Post Number: 222 Registered: 5-2005 |
Oh, sorry for the mixup then. I know that for a fact as well- I dont get why they are allowed in the bar. I know people walk over to the bar from the restaurant side, but shouldnt they be carded in the proces?? If we really want to attack something about Cryans- its their turned cheek approach to the law. | ||
| Kristen Williamson Citizen Username: Kris219 Post Number: 192 Registered: 4-2005 |
I'm not 21 yet, so you've never seen me at the bar, but you might see me in Cryans for lunch or dinner! JTA- You're defending Jimmy now? Maybe you should appologize to him for jumping to attack. "How the ^&*% can someone 'rent' spaces in a town owned parking lot? Give me a break!!! I think there are plenty of residents who would love to have their own personal parking spot in one of the town lots." | ||
| The Oracle of MOL Supporter Username: Oracle_of_mol Post Number: 228 Registered: 2-2005  |
The banality of Evil allows it to flourish in your midst. Cryan is no more evil a man than most, but he is in a position to do things which clearly mirror the worst impulses of your society, things which, when brought to light, cause the most guilt-ridden among you to cry out in shock (Shock!!!) that such things could be allowed to happen. You fall upon the purp with blind mob rage, and evil is again triumphant. In a weak and fearful civilization such as yours, justice occurs only by mistake. The angels weep for you, but you hear them not. Go in peace. --The Oracle of MOL | ||
| Matt Foley Citizen Username: Mattfoley Post Number: 586 Registered: 6-2004  |
Kristen, I agree with you my dear. JTA obviously did not mention to Mr. Cryan that she regularly bashes he and his family on MOL! | ||
| stefano Citizen Username: Stefano Post Number: 482 Registered: 2-2002  |
This is all a cryin' shame, really. dr stefano | ||
| MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 3644 Registered: 5-2001 |
uh...you do mean a Cryan shame, dontcha? | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4447 Registered: 1-2004 |
Hey Matt you should talk! You bash him too.  And I say right in my post 'I'm not a fan of Cryans.' But in this situation, since ***someone's*** information about Jimmy renting spots in town lots was incorrect, I did defend him. Edit to add: BTW I don't consider posting articles from the Ledger is 'bashing' someone. | ||
| John Quincy Adams Citizen Username: Randolph_agarn Post Number: 12 Registered: 3-2006 |
Just the Aunt - You seem to be half right. Mr. Cryan does not appear to be renting spaces from the town. He is stealing them. | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4452 Registered: 1-2004 |
JQA  While both can turn out to be true, all I know for sure is what he told me when I spoke with him. If in some of these spots turn out to be in the town lots, then I agree with you. I'd be interested in hearing what happens this weekend. Maybe now that he's aware of the ruckous, the cones will magically stop appearing? I don't hang out in Cryan's, so I don't know first hand. If I did hang out there and witnessed valets blocking spaces with cones; I'd move the cones and park in the space. I've done it before at Saint Barnabas when the valets would block the handicapped spaces with cones and tell us we couldn't park there because they were valet. Told them too bad, I have a handicap license plate and I'm parking in the spot. They were pretty mad; but I didn't care. My friend couldn't walk far and she couldn't see. I was parking there like it or not. PS, when I called earlier tonight not only did I start out telling Jimmy I'm not a big fan of Cryans. I read him my post on MOL. I'm sure he knows who I am because I am sure he was told (not by you). I would suggest if anyone sees cones there this weekend, take pictures of them. Then say something to Jimmy. | ||
| Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 3643 Registered: 5-2001  |
Grab the cones. Put 'em in your trunk. Take the spot. -s. | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 2649 Registered: 5-2004  |
I know that someone had emailed Mark Hartwyk about this yesterday. No answer from him so far. Heopfully this can be resolved and we can all move on... | ||
| AntoninaKC Citizen Username: Antoninakc Post Number: 224 Registered: 5-2005 |
kristen- I wouldnt know it was you if you sat next to me at the bar.(but I'll take your word!)  | ||
| jeep Citizen Username: Jeep Post Number: 53 Registered: 8-2005 |
Hold on Ms. Collum you are the originator of this information. If Mr. Cryan is renting spaces from the town for his business then every business owner must be given the same opportunity. I understand from the parking authority that a business owner in town is allowed to purchase some sought of a permit for their employees. But I also believe and someone can correct me if I am wrong these permits are not for the metered spaces but for certain lots only. | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 2650 Registered: 5-2004 |
Perhaps there is a misunderstanding between Mr. Cryan and his employees as to which lot they should be doing this in. if Jeep is saying that s/he saw the valet parking cars in a town-owned lot, and Mr. Cryan has rented space from in a private lot, then I would guess the people parking the cars simply misunderstood which lot he meant. My friend still has not heard back from Mr. Hartwyk. Perhaps others could call or email as well? But be nice. In my mind, it is better to assume it is a misunderstanding than to antagonize. | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 149 Registered: 2-2006 |
Rastro, why do several people need to contact Mr. Hartwyk? He should respond no matter how many people ask the same question. If he responds only when several people contact him, but not when one does, it would not speak well of him. For these reasons, I think no one else should contact him. And whoever has contacted him should report about whether he has responded or not and how much time has passed since he was asked. | ||
| Spitz Supporter Username: Doublea Post Number: 1585 Registered: 3-2003 |
I think that what disturbed me most was Strings' post. She's paid for a permit, and has trouble finding a space because there are a lot of cars without permits in the lot. That's just not right. | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 150 Registered: 2-2006 |
If angels weep, The Oracle of MOL, it may be because your muddled mumbo jumbo offends their ear. In homage to their mirthful god, they may smile or chuckle at it instead. | ||
| Kristen Williamson Citizen Username: Kris219 Post Number: 193 Registered: 4-2005 |
JTA- who is this *******SOMEONE******** who said that he rented from town lots? I know that Sheena asked him about valet parking and he replied that he rents those spots, but neither Sheena, not Jimmy said that it was in a town lot. Plenty of posters jumped to the conclusion that it was a town lot, and some saw cones there. But who exactly said that Jimmy Cryan does, in fact, rent parking spaces from a town parking lot? Where is that again, please enlighten. Thanks. Rastro- "...it is better to assume it is a misunderstanding than to antagonize." I agree, but we know better about how people act on this board. Since you aren't jumping to accuse and antagonize, then you must be a supporter of underage drinking at Cryans, just like me...right JQA? That's clearly a logical assumption...or not so much. Oh and Foley, I miss you. |
