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     John Quincy Adams Citizen Username: Randolph_agarn Post Number: 15 Registered: 3-2006  |
"Plenty of posters jumped to the conclusion that it was a town lot, and some saw cones there." Yes people did jump to the conclusion becuase they saw it happening in front of them! | ||
| Kristen Williamson Citizen Username: Kris219 Post Number: 194 Registered: 4-2005 |
Some didn't. | ||
| John Quincy Adams Citizen Username: Randolph_agarn Post Number: 16 Registered: 3-2006 |
And those who did, are you calling them liers? | ||
| jeep Citizen Username: Jeep Post Number: 54 Registered: 8-2005 |
I have another question. Perhaps Mr. Rosner or Mr. Devaris can answer this. There is no question that Cryans was parking valet cars in the permit lot behind his business of Friday and Saturday evening. There is no question that he was parking valet cars in the metered spaces on his street. My question is this. If one of the valet parked cars gets hit or hits someone in the town lot is the town at risk? If the Valet person falls in the lot or gets hit by a car in the lot is the town at risk? | ||
| Howard Levison Citizen Username: Levisonh Post Number: 505 Registered: 1-2004  |
Jeff Dubowy, as Chair of the Parking Authority would you please resolve this question. | ||
| John Quincy Adams Citizen Username: Randolph_agarn Post Number: 17 Registered: 3-2006 |
I also have a question. It is hard to believe that Cryans reserving public spaces for use by a private business is legal. What is the town going to do about it? I know two of the town trustees post on this board, and I am sure other read it. Is this something that the town will stop, or is this just going to be another case of a Cryan doing whatever he wants? | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 152 Registered: 2-2006 |
JQA (so glad to meet you; you are an ancestor), jeep should provide sworn testimony of what he saw and present it to law enforcement officials. (See previous post about citizen's arrest) Would someone please post the members of the PA Commission and list any village employees who oversee parking? I don't know who they are, what departments in village hall deal with parking. Thank you. | ||
| jeep Citizen Username: Jeep Post Number: 55 Registered: 8-2005 |
This is a earlier post from Mr. Rosner----"I did see the valet parking and the cones. I asked the valet parking person and he did not offer an explanation (nor did he move the cone). I took another space. I emailed one of the SOPA commissioners and will see if I can get an explanation." A Trustee of the town saw this first hand so if you think I am lying OK but I dubt you think Mr. Rosner is lying! | ||
| John Quincy Adams Citizen Username: Randolph_agarn Post Number: 18 Registered: 3-2006 |
SOrising - Nice to "meat" you as well. You come from good "stock". | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 2652 Registered: 5-2004  |
Kristen, you wrote Well, I can't speak for you, but I am certainly a supporter of underage drinking.  | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4455 Registered: 1-2004  |
Rastro- You might be right about a misunderstanding over the lots the valets are supposed to be using. I'm curious, how many other posters got the impression Sheena meant the TOWN lots (especially the one next to Cryan's) when she posted the note she did Wednesday around 7Pm (copy provided below). Instead of it being a 'thread kill,' it seems as if that post might have caused Jimmy even more problems. As I even told Jimmy when I called to ask him about this last night, I am not a big fan of Cryan's. I told him I read on MOL the town now rents spaces in the lot and since he was on the Parking Authority, I figured he'd be the one to ask how to rent a space. When I explained why I thought that he explained he rents the lot from the doctor's who own the building on Valley (the old First Street School). We had a discussion about how I'm glad he cleared that up because I'm sure a lot of people would love to have their own space in the town lots. How even though people might have a permit, it doesn't assure them a spot to park in. I'm going to post something else Jimmy told me. According to Jimmy on Saint Patrick's Day someone did call the police over this. The police came and spoke to Jimmy. Jimmy explained to the police the cars got backed up; he then spoke to the valets and from what I understand, that was the end of it. (I know who this person is because Jimmy told me. I know the person who called the police posts on MOL. Hopefully they can clear things up a bit) Has anyone seen cones since then? Can someone go look tonight, and tomorrow? I'm in no way saying people didn't see cones in a town lot, I don't have an answer for that. But I do know Jimmy is now aware of the situation. I did inform he more then one person has seen the cones in the town lot and were told they were because of him. I posted what he told me. >>>Hopefully this will be a thread kill but here's some clarification, Jimmy 'rents' those spaces and has been since January... But regardless, damage has already been done by words. I think an apology to Mr. Cryan would be fandamntacular (there's another one for you) but I doubt that will occur. <<< | ||
| jeep Citizen Username: Jeep Post Number: 56 Registered: 8-2005 |
Mr. Rosner did you see the cones in spaces on Friday night or Saturday night or both? | ||
| mrosner Citizen Username: Mrosner Post Number: 2698 Registered: 4-2002 |
Jeep: I saw the cones (both nights). I have not spoken with Mr. Cryan yet (I did call and I did stop by the restaurant). I do know Mr. Cryan has had valet parking for a while now. I am assuming things were a little overwhelming on St. Patricks day due to the large crowd and the guys from the valet parking company were not properly prepared. At this point, I suggest anyone who has an issue to either call Mr. Cryan or the parking authority. | ||
| Kristen Williamson Citizen Username: Kris219 Post Number: 195 Registered: 4-2005 |
Rastro- To clarify, I was being sarcastic, I'm not sure if you got that impression or not, but I wanted to make sure that I wasn't 'attacking' you. I was truely agreeing with your statement. I'm not 21 until October so we can meet up at the bar any time until then! JQA- Yes, if the people who saw cones in public parking spots said that Jimmy is in fact renting those spots from the town, then apparently they are liars, because we have found that to not be true. Jimmy is not renting the spots from the town, if the cones are there or not. Now that we know that someone has seen cones there, that raises suspicion of abuse or a misunderstanding. Either way, the statement you quoted is still true....some people jumped to the conclusion without knowledge, and others actually saw the cones. | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 2659 Registered: 5-2004 |
Kristen, I got your point, don't worry. And I am in favor of understage drinking. Well, let me rephrase that. I am not opposed to underage drinking. When I turned 19, the drinking age in NY was 19. Two weeks later, it turned 21. In fact, I was in a bar when the drinking age went up, and they threw us all out. It must have been that one minute (11:59PM - Midnight) that turned us all from responsible young drinkers into hardened criminals. As for meeting at the bar, I think my wife would be a tad miffed if I left her with the kids one night to meet a 21 year old co-ed at a bar, as innocent as it might sound.  | ||
| Mayor McCheese Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese Post Number: 1038 Registered: 7-2004  |
"I think my wife would be a tad miffed if I left her with the kids one night to meet a 21 year old co-ed at a bar" I don't see a problem with that at all. If you met with her in the dorms, that might be a problem.  | ||
| Spitz Supporter Username: Doublea Post Number: 1588 Registered: 3-2003 |
Ah, Rastro - Did you happen to see Kristen in the audience at the BOT meeting when the Seton Hall students spoke? Takes a strong man to turn down an invitation like that. | ||
| Pizzaz Supporter Username: Pizzaz Post Number: 3364 Registered: 11-2001  |
I think Kristen is cute, very cute.....  Matt Foley, if you had any sense...... | ||
| Mayor McCheese Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese Post Number: 1041 Registered: 7-2004 |
Alas Matt Foley has no sense. I'll meet you at the bar when you turn 21 Kristen. | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4458 Registered: 1-2004 |
Rastr0- I'm trying to remember, but I thought when the drinking age went from 18 to 19, those who were already 'legal to drink,' meaning 18, were grandfathered in. Then when it went from 19 to 21, if you were already 19 you were grandfathered in. I thought I remember one of my sisters being grandfather in and another not. | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4459 Registered: 1-2004 |
Just wondering. Other then last weekend (16, 17, 18 March) did anyone see the cones in the spaces? If not, then what Jimmy said about backed up cars makes a lot of sense. | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 2662 Registered: 5-2004 |
Nope. In NY, you were not grandfathered from 19-21. It didn't affect me when it went from 18-19, since I was drinking illegally at that point anyway. But I was in a bar in Forest Hill, Queens on November 30, 1985 (The Wine Gallery?) and I distinctly remember them telling us we had to leave at midnight, even as they served us one last pitcher. | ||
| Kristen Williamson Citizen Username: Kris219 Post Number: 196 Registered: 4-2005 |
Alright, I'm making a promise. When I turn 21, I will invite the MOLers that I like out to the bar. Granted I turn 21 on a Monday in October, so that would mean being at a bar on a Sunday night until midnight. If you're up for it, I'll see you there. Oh Pizzaz, you are so cute! I hear rumors that you're sponsoring my first shot . Oh and Foley is just a mess... | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4460 Registered: 1-2004 |
Ooops sorry Rastro. I thought you were talking about the drinking age in Jersey. I think at one point the drinking age in NY was lower then NJ; pretty sure I remember my sisters and brothers going to NY to 'legally' drink there. I bet you and your friends were shocked when the bar tossed you at Midnight. | ||
| Mayor McCheese Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese Post Number: 1043 Registered: 7-2004 |
Kristen, I will keep you to that promise. Matt Foley would as well, but he has no sense. | ||
| extuscan Citizen Username: Extuscan Post Number: 634 Registered: 6-2001 |
I like how this thread was resolved. Can we all agree to listen a little more Sheena Collum and a little less Sheena Easton? -John | ||
| John Quincy Adams Citizen Username: Randolph_agarn Post Number: 19 Registered: 3-2006 |
extuscan - Nothing has been resolved. There is no doubt that Mr. Cryan will continue to steal town spots, and those in charge of parking will continue to turn a blind eye. Because of course he is a Cryan. | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 154 Registered: 2-2006 |
JQA, esteemed forefather, if you allege illegalities, why don't you seek legal recourse to establish them or remedy them? It seems pretty simple in this case to determine whether ordinances have been broken or not. | ||
| John Quincy Adams Citizen Username: Randolph_agarn Post Number: 20 Registered: 3-2006 |
I was not a witness to the acts. I hope that those who have seen the illegal acts as they occured will step forward, and I hope that those trustees that have read and responded on this board will stop Mr. Cryan. I do not care if he is punished (of course he will not be) but I would like the SOPA to step up and stop this. I wonder what would happen if another business owner in South Orange attempted anything like this. It would have been stamped out the first day. | ||
| Sam NuBalls Citizen Username: Parkingsux Post Number: 359 Registered: 6-2005  |
I guess it might be simple for most.... if only politics didn't get in the way. Shall we allege our dissatisfaction with the local magistrate or will we be rebuked for speaking of such patronage illegalities? | ||
| The Oracle of MOL Supporter Username: Oracle_of_mol Post Number: 229 Registered: 2-2005  |
The breaking of laws is neither an ethical nor a practical problem for those positioned to do so. Your president Bush is clear evidence of this sooth, as have been so many of the powerful and entrenched through the centuries. Expecting such mortals to behave otherwise is spitting in the face of history. Cryan is indeed corrupt, but in a benign manner compared to such as your Corruptor-In-Chief. Go in peace, and wise up. --The Oracle of MOL | ||
| John Quincy Adams Citizen Username: Randolph_agarn Post Number: 21 Registered: 3-2006 |
In the old days it was thought treasonous to speak of the president is such a fashion. In addition, he is "our" commander-in-chief, and "our" president. While Mr. Bush may or may not be corrupt, it has no relevance in this topic. I understood that oracles were supposed to impart wisdom. I have not seen that today. I will await future post and hope that this oracle is in fact some kind of oracle. | ||
| jeep Citizen Username: Jeep Post Number: 57 Registered: 8-2005 |
Just the Aunt said she spoke to Mr. Cryan and he said the police came to him on Friday evening and put a stop to putting traffic cones in public spots for his use. Mr. Rosner report that he saw traffic cones in spots on Saturday evening. I guess Mr. Cryan is either above the law or has no respect for the law. | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 155 Registered: 2-2006 |
Well, JQA, I hope jeep and Trustee Rosner do take action and I hope they do report the results of their actions here. What they saw and their allegations are too serious to make lightly and residents of South Orange would benefit from knowing what happens. If Mr. Cryan has broken local ordinances and has done so routinely, he should not receive special favor or exemption from the consequences that anyone would face. Another reason why jeep and Trustee Rosner need to take further action. Sam N., are you accusing a local magistrate of illegalities? Again, nothing to triffle about. I am interested to learn of any illegal or otherwise illicit activities of any local magistrate. Please elaborate on your last post. Thank you. | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 156 Registered: 2-2006 |
Jeep, if it is true that the police tried to stop the illegal use of public parking spaces, the police are to be commended for trying to uphold the law. They appear to be your natural ally in this matter. I hope they talk to Trustee Rosner about what he saw Saturday night and I hope you talk to them also about what you saw. I suggest you talk to Chief Chillel directly and personally, if you have any doubt about it. Please let us know how it all turns out. (And, its trifle, not triffle.) | ||
| Sam NuBalls Citizen Username: Parkingsux Post Number: 360 Registered: 6-2005 |
Allow me to elaborate my sentiment. I suggested to the right honorable gentle person that if he finds misbehavior of perceived injustices by a politically connected individual and little or no official action taken to quelch such misbehavior, I proposed one might consider addressing these concerns with the town appointed magistrate. The question left is how would one be received at the beckoning of the halls of justice? I infer nothing in respect to the direct question - I don't know. Thank you for the question. I, Sam NuBalls, find satisfaction in happily rising to your request. | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 157 Registered: 2-2006 |
Sam, while I confess hilarity over your language (auch auf Deutsch), its various ups and downs, it appears, from jeep's last entry, that the police may have taken "action to quelch such misbehavior." If true, we should be grateful for their efforts. And further obtuse references to magistrates may be obviated by them. | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 4471 Registered: 1-2004 |
ah extuscan- Sheena was the one who posted the incorrect information. Jimmy Cryan does NOT rent spaces in the town lot, as she posted. He rents the lot from the doctors who own the old First Street School, as I posted after speaking to Jimmy Cryan. Funny how one poster tried to twist things around as if it were me who posted Jimmy rents the spots in the town lot. I'm not sure if last weekend was the first time people saw cones in the spots in the town lot, but if it was, maybe there was a misunderstanding. Jimmy did tell me the cars backed up at one point. I'm thinking maybe he was unaware of what the valets were doing. When the police came he put a stop to what was happening. If he was aware and told the valets to use the town lot, I would hope he isn't stupid enough to continue with this. I'm not making excuses for Jimmy, nor am I making light of what people saw. Let's see what happens this weekend. | ||
| John Quincy Adams Citizen Username: Randolph_agarn Post Number: 22 Registered: 3-2006 |
Just the Aunt - It is insane to think that he would not know what is going on in his own business. Especially since this is something that is new, he knew exactly what he was doing. He just has no respect for others. | ||
| Kristen Williamson Citizen Username: Kris219 Post Number: 198 Registered: 4-2005 |
JTA- When did Sheena ever say that Jimmy rents parking spots from the town? Here we go again with your false accusations. Can you try to back it up this time, please? |
