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     Bob K Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 7807 Registered: 5-2001 |
College student residency is very interesting. While not a factor at SHU, a private school, in state residency makes a huge difference in tuition payments most places in the country. A co-worker's daughter went to UVA and the parents went so far as to buy her a condo so she could establish residency. | ||
| argon_smythe Citizen Username: Argon_smythe Post Number: 539 Registered: 5-2001 |
That is interesting. I spend the majority of my time in NYC at work, what happens has an impact on me, but I don't have voting rights there! | ||
| doublea Supporter Username: Doublea Post Number: 926 Registered: 3-2003 |
The "Rock the Vote" campaign started at Rutgers last fall. As I recall, the campaign resulted in registering 18,000 students at N.J. colleges and universities (a large number were from Rutgers.) Seton Hall participated in this drive and BMO headed the "rock the vote" campaign at SHU. I think it resulted in SHU registering 750-1000 students. SHU did campaign succesfully to get a voting machine on campus. | ||
| mrosner Citizen Username: Mrosner Post Number: 1760 Registered: 4-2002 |
E Roberts: I have not spoken with the rescue squad captain in years. It might not be a bad idea to invite him to come to a public safety meeting. | ||
| BMO Citizen Username: Bmo Post Number: 21 Registered: 2-2005 |
Argon... a hypothetical response to your situation - say you lived in NJ (as I assume you do) and worked in NYC (as you also do) but had an apartment in NYC (hypothetically). Now even if you originally claimed the NJ home as your residence, you still have a place to live in the city - the city government would have a say over the building's code, rent control, whether you could park in front of your building, what businesses will be allowed in the neighborhood of your building. Now don't you think that in that case you should have the right to claim NYC as your place of residence and vote there - especially if you end up living there more than in NJ. I would imagine that you would be able to. This is just an example though. | ||
| BMO Citizen Username: Bmo Post Number: 22 Registered: 2-2005 |
Bob K - that is an interesting point. I remember when I was applying to colleges that many if not all of the cases where a public school offered discounted tuition to in-state residents, the requirement was that you live in the state for one year before you are considered a resident of the state (for their tuition purposes). I remember because a relative of mine who attended Penn State was considering buying a condo after her freshman year to get the discounted tuition later on down the line (I guess it wouldn't have applied then until her Junior year). Interesting point though. | ||
| Ace789nj Citizen Username: Ace789nj Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2005 |
It makes no sense to me to have the university's health services off campus. What do they do when a sick/injured student wants to use those services and has to get from boland to turrell ave? they call the resque squad and ask them to do the transport ......WHAT THE HELL IS THAT??!! | ||
| SoOrLady Citizen Username: Soorlady Post Number: 1829 Registered: 9-2003 |
Their health sevices building is directly across the street. It used to be in Boland - students who live in the dorms closest to the entrance now have a shorter distance to walk than they used to. | ||
| Old and Gray Citizen Username: Pastmyprime Post Number: 19 Registered: 2-2005 |
SoOrLady...SHU moved it off campus to create more housing space most likely, I like that the university is taking things off campus it looks good for the town because they obviously keep the properties in good condition and its better then a vacant old house or building. Aren't college students supposed to fill out absentee ballots, that is how I voted when I was in college and in the military? | ||
| BMO Citizen Username: Bmo Post Number: 23 Registered: 2-2005 |
SoOrLady and O&G you are both right. The Health Services wing in that was in Boland was made into rooms for a good number of students. They moved to what was a vacant doctors office right outside the main gate - which is closer for us upperclassmen hehe. O&G students still can fill out absentee ballots for their home districts if that is where they choose to vote and are registered to vote. This past fall about 800 or so students registered to vote in District 12 of South Orange so that they could vote here and vote for local officials. The voting booth was then moved on campus to the Walsh Library which seemed very convenient to all District 12 voters from the responses we've gotten. | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 568 Registered: 4-2004 |
CMonty- You're way off base. I'm an S.H.U. alum and a supporter. That doesn't mean that I'm bound to ignore the negative impacts that a large university has on this town. My information on S.H.U.'s overuse and unnecessary use of the volunteer Rescue Squad has been culled from the members themselves, present and past. There are also other emergency response personnel that lament the same problems. My point is that if any S.H.U. personnel are using this resource the University should be supporting it. Do they?. No. They simply direct their personnel to use it in lieu of their own training and resources. Perhaps Mr. Koenemund or another Squad member can provide actual figures as to how many calls the Squad answers at the various S.H.U. facilities in town as well as any financial support they receive from the school. But even the approximate 10% indicated by Mr. Rosner refutes your asinine supposition that those who question or point out these disparities "...don't seem to like Seton Hall whatsoever". We just want to see a more mutually-beneficial arrangement between Town and Gown. | ||
| Taylor M Citizen Username: Anotherusername Post Number: 352 Registered: 8-2004 |
BMO- Hmmm. Well I know lots of students who go to college in neighboring states, who come home most weekends. Does this mean these students should be allowed to vote in that community's local elections? And I know lots of studnets from neighboring states going to school here who go home most wekends. Does that mean they should be allowed to vote in local elections here? When I was a student I knew at least a dozen on campus SHU students from NY who took the train home each weekend, should they be allowed to vote in South Orange's local elections? I don't think so!!! As for your comment "they live in the Village 9 months out of the year - the decisions made by local officials have an impact on them" Maybe then SHU should do more for the community. Just my opinion of course. I also think (in most cases) if a student's parent claims the student as a dependent, that student by all means should be a resident of the state they lie in. | ||
| Taylor M Citizen Username: Anotherusername Post Number: 353 Registered: 8-2004 |
Hi sac I went to college in the late 70's early 80's. Those of us who lived on campus who couldn't make it home at election time were allowed to vote via absentee ballots for the elections in our home towns. I don't remember on campus students voting in elections for local officals in the community offical. And they shouldn't be allowed to. they aren't take payers. Maybe a few on campus students voted for the Presidntal elections, but these were students who lived on capus year round. | ||
| Taylor M Citizen Username: Anotherusername Post Number: 354 Registered: 8-2004 |
Bobk My uncle did something similar. Only he bought half dozen townhouses he rents to students. One is in my cousin's name so she could be considered a resident of that state. | ||
| Taylor M Citizen Username: Anotherusername Post Number: 355 Registered: 8-2004 |
argon- Funny you mention that. Friends of ours moved from South Orange to Long Valley about a year ago. The wife works in the City and the commute was killing her. So they bought an apartment in The City. She stays there Sun night- Friday afternnon. My uncle lives in Westchester County. Many years ago he bought an apartment in the Fashion District where he stayed several nights a week. These are just two examples. Should they be allowed to vote in NYC elections? | ||
| Taylor M Citizen Username: Anotherusername Post Number: 356 Registered: 8-2004 |
argon- Funny you mention that. Friends of ours moved from South Orange to Long Valley about a year ago. The wife works in the City and the commute was killing her. So they bought an apartment in The City. She stays there Sun night- Friday afternnon. My uncle lives in Westchester County. Many years ago he bought an apartment in the Fashion District where he stayed several nights a week. These are just two examples. Should they be allowed to vote in NYC elections? | ||
| Taylor M Citizen Username: Anotherusername Post Number: 357 Registered: 8-2004 |
doubla- That's great the coleges were able to register so many students. But this was for the Presidental Election, not a local one, correct? As for SHU getting a voting machine on campus, I thought they move a machine from one of it's sites in the community to SHU's campus. If I lived in that voting sidtrict I would have been annoyed. | ||
| Taylor M Citizen Username: Anotherusername Post Number: 358 Registered: 8-2004 |
This isn't such a hypothrtical situation as we know several people who do this. NONE of them feel they should have the right to vote in the local elections for local officals in the community their apartment is in. And these are adults who not only pay takes on their property, they pay taxes on their income. You should only be allowed to claim you're a legal resident of ONE state. a hypothetical response to your situation - say you lived in NJ (as I assume you do) and worked in NYC (as you also do) but had an apartment in NYC (hypothetically). Now even if you originally claimed the NJ home as your residence, you still have a place to live in the city - the city government would have a say over the building's code, rent control, whether you could park in front of your building, what businesses will be allowed in the neighborhood of your building. Now don't you think that in that case you should have the right to claim NYC as your place of residence and vote there - especially if you end up living there more than in NJ. I would imagine that you would be able to. This is just an example though. | ||
| Bob K Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 7811 Registered: 5-2001 |
Taylor, the answer is probably yes. However, along with the residence address voting will probably come New York city and state income tax. I doubt if Seton Hall could get enough students registered and out to vote to effect a local election. Some of the large universities, Rutgers in New Brunswick maybe being one, could probably make a very interesting voting block. | ||
| LibraryLady(ncjanow) Supporter Username: Librarylady Post Number: 2273 Registered: 5-2001  |
If you are registered to vote, you are registered to vote. All elections are covered, you can't pick where you vote for mayor and choose another place to vote for POTUS. And once you register to vote, you can't be prohibited from voting in all elections for whatever offices you want. BUT> you can't be registered and vote in two places. |
