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     LibraryLady(ncjanow) Supporter Username: Librarylady Post Number: 2298 Registered: 5-2001  |
SOREF..why do you have to ask for permission to park in your driveway? Most people do;I rarely put my car IN the garage.(too much junk in there!) The reason you have to let the police know if you are parking on the stret overnight to to help control crime. An out of place car in a indication that soemthing is not right. Almost every suburban town enforces that rule, usually from 2-6 am. It's to help prevent home robberies,etc. | ||
| Jeff DuBowy Citizen Username: Jeffd Post Number: 45 Registered: 11-2003 |
lisanne - I found W. James on the NJT waiting list - #231 - I believe about 30 names have come off since my list was printed - figure approximately 200 ahead of you - probably 2 year wait. Are you SO resident? I did not see the name on the Municipal Lot list. You can check with SOPA directly for more precise info. | ||
| SO Refugee Citizen Username: So_refugee Post Number: 60 Registered: 2-2005  |
I'm talking specifically of parking on the street in front of my house, not the driveway. I would disagree about every suburban town enforces that rule. Maybe for towns around here... And some towns I'm sure use permit parking which I would have no complaints about. Home robberies - I hope - are an exception and not so widespread that this became a launch pad for parking rules. | ||
| mwoodwalk Citizen Username: Mwoodwalk Post Number: 321 Registered: 9-2001 |
That's right---I'm only aware of towns in Essex county that enforce the no street parking at night crap. You're right, its for crime, so when you border crime havens like Newark, Irvinston, etc., then you have to enforce such unfortunate laws. The towns in which I grew up in Morris County would NEVER hear of such restrictive ordinances, because they really do uneccessarily restrict one's basic property rights. | ||
| Daniel M. Jacobs, PP, AICP Supporter Username: Conrail Post Number: 16 Registered: 1-2004 |
The street is not private property. The private property owner does not pay tax on the street-bed, nor are taxes generally imposed based on street frontage (as they were in old New Amsterdam). Indeed, until the 1930's, overnight parking even in the City of New York was illegal. All of the suburbs of Essex County impose similar rules, including Millburn and Montclair. It helps the Police Department detect suspicious activity and supports the park-like aesthetic of these towns. Whenever I have house-guests, I call the SOPD and they give me permission to keep a car in the street (free for nothing, unlike most village activities!). If the process were a hassle, I would understand the earlier posts about this issue, but I have always been well treated by the SOPD on this issue, so I am mystified by the complaints. . . | ||
| SO Refugee Citizen Username: So_refugee Post Number: 74 Registered: 2-2005 |
While my wife was in the hospital, my mother-in-law was at my house for a week including during two different snowstorms...it is a hassle if you have to remember to call every night and to be told on those stormy nights that no permission is given. When I asked what were my options, I was given none. Yes, the SOPD has always been helpful and, thankfully, I received no tickets for parking in front of my house anyway. At any rate, I'll take my lumps and appreciate the other 90% of SO. | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 717 Registered: 1-2004  |
We think the on street parking rules here stink; be glad you don't live where my sister lives! There in no on street parking AT ALL!!! This includes suring the day as well as over night.  And Essex County isn't the only County with the overnight parking rules. Springfield has them too. I know from experience, I got a ticket for parking three minutes into the "No Parking from..."  I think some Morris County towns have overnight parking regulations as well. | ||
| Old and Gray Citizen Username: Pastmyprime Post Number: 38 Registered: 2-2005 |
A lot of towns have the "no overnight parking" ordinances...some have it only during winter months from November to April. However, It could be worse, the police in South Orange usually just ask you for your plate and a reason your parking...Towns in Bergen and Passaic County require you visit the police department with the guests' vehicle documents and some sort of proof of your residency. I think that is somewhat harsh...but for South Orange, who has a lot of neighboring towns' residents who park within our border streets, a major university whose students are not allowed to park vehicles on campus, and a majority of apartments that are rented with high turnover, I might support such a strict rule requiring you to register your guests car in person at the police department or the parking authority. What about online registration of overnight guest vehicles? I think the issue is how do you provide this service to the residents fairly and without difficult access, but also weed through the valid requests and keep people from abusing the privelege? | ||
| mwoodwalk Citizen Username: Mwoodwalk Post Number: 338 Registered: 9-2001 |
The street parking rules are annoying, period. Just because some of you have become accustomed to this annoying requirement, doesn't make it any less annoying. And its true, I have no property rights in the street---but I guess 25 years of never having to worry about it got me in the frame of mind that there is no harm in parking in front of MY OWN HOUSE, and truthfully, there is NO HARM in my parking there on days when the plows don't come through, unless you assume I'm a criminal. | ||
| Old and Gray Citizen Username: Pastmyprime Post Number: 46 Registered: 2-2005 |
It must be troublesome if you have a single lane driveway, but those are the rules and if you drive around town at night, the town looks better without all the cars on the street, it is additionally easier to navigate through the narrower streets. I think since the ticket prices went up last year it has had a direct effect on the parking problems around the apartments and on problem streets. | ||
| SO Refugee Citizen Username: So_refugee Post Number: 122 Registered: 2-2005 |
I remembered this thread last weekend as I walked through the village. Someone posted that the parking rules are such to "maintain the park like quality of the village", but SO didn't look too "park-like" with EVERY garbage bin overflowing and trash all over the sidewalk. What a nice Easter walk to the train station... | ||
| e roberts Citizen Username: Wnwd00 Post Number: 343 Registered: 3-2004 |
mwoodwalk, there are many morris county towns with overnight parking restrictions including boonton, boonton twp, mountain lakes, sections of morristown, denville, and i believe portions of monteville. | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 852 Registered: 1-2004 |
Add Mendham to your list... | ||
| Old and Gray Citizen Username: Pastmyprime Post Number: 49 Registered: 2-2005 |
why would you park on the street in mendham...everyone has a driveways that can fit two dump trucks and small plane. | ||
| mwoodwalk Citizen Username: Mwoodwalk Post Number: 343 Registered: 9-2001 |
Not where I grew up in Montville. And please, what is this "PARK" like atmosphere; that's baloney. The absence of cars on my street (Kingsland Terrace) has no appreciable beneficial effect. I just find it maddening that on those nights when I literally forget that we moved the minivan onto the street in order to pull our sedan in the driveway I wake up the next morning to find a ticket on my car. I mean, would it be so difficult to simply require registration of vehicles for South Orange homeowners/apartment dwellers such that if a homeowner/apartment resident left a car on the street, it would be left alone, but if a stranger (who, presumably, is the target of the ordinance) left a car on the street, then it would be ticketed? That sounds reasonable to me, and lessens the possibility of my having to pay a greater portion of the town budget than I already do by virtue of our outrageous taxes. | ||
| e roberts Citizen Username: Wnwd00 Post Number: 344 Registered: 3-2004 |
mwood, if south orange allowed overnight on street parking it would open a flood gate leading to masive amounts of cars parked all over town. the best example i can come up with is seton hall students. since seton hall resident students are allowed to register to vote in south orange they would presumably be able to park their cars on any street in south orange overnight. by my count seton hall has approx 1200 undergrad resident students, approx 1000 of them are not allowed to have cars on campus, so how would you feel about up to 1000 cars parked in the streets surrounding seton hall? ward, waverly, gardner, eder, south stanley, south kingman? or did you plan on excluding our new residents that are allowed to vote? as far as overnight parking the status quo is probally the best situation for now... | ||
| Just The Aunt Supporter Username: Auntof13 Post Number: 858 Registered: 1-2004 |
Old- Being difficult I guess? Actually one of my friends who use to live in Mendham, until last week, didn't have a driveway. She lived on the corner of Hilltop and Main Street. So, I'd have to park on the street. One time when I was dropping her off after a concert, I went upstairs to use the potty. We started talking and next thing you know two hours went by. Well, okay we didn't talk that long. We went to the Publix House first for something to eat, then walked back to her place. Since I stank like smoke I took a quick shower, then left. But I had a ticket on my car!!! I'm so glad she is getting married so she no longer lives there! I liked it better when she lived in South Orange! | ||
| User58 Citizen Username: User58 Post Number: 33 Registered: 8-2004 |
can anyone explain why they closed off part of the parking lot behind the fire house? Now those cars are scrambling around for spots. Things are getting worse not better for people looking for spaces. Also the 12 hour meters were removed across from the fire house for the firemen to park. I understand that they were offered free parking in the new building next to the rescue squad. I do not understand why they did not take advantage of this situation and if they felt it was too far from the fire house why didn't the town take the spaces for permit parking to help until all the spaces are available again? | ||
| Old and Gray Citizen Username: Pastmyprime Post Number: 51 Registered: 2-2005 |
Regarding the lot next to Firehouse: I asked a cop the other night outside Starbucks and he told me he believed it was for firepersonnel because they intend to start construction at the firehouse. (NO JOKE). I agree with Eroberts...if we opened up overnight parking you would have SHU students flooding streets adjacent to the University and off campus housing. Streets that neighbor Newark and Orange would slowly become clogged 24/7 with parking. Leave it as it is...For those who don't like that idea; maybe the police and P.A. could selectivly enforce problem prone areas...But my opinion is to keep up the restrictive nature. | ||
| Jeff DuBowy Supporter Username: Jeffd Post Number: 58 Registered: 11-2003 |
The lot was closed due to construction on the firehouse. |
