| Author | Message | ||
     SoOrLady Citizen Username: Soorlady Post Number: 1846 Registered: 9-2003 |
Taylor - from Feb 25 - "Our committee is made up of dedicated students, but we have a faculty advisor and we have the full support of the Seton Hall administration, with whom we meet and update regularly." I checked - there is such a committee - is BMO a member? I don't know.. I agree that he is speaking as one voice and not the committee's. He said that he had discovered this board and posted so that he could connect with the community, find out our concerns and try to find an answer or point us to the person who could provide an answer. yep.. he's definately up to no good. We all have our reasons for choosing to post with our real names or an alias.. let's not bash him because he's a student. | ||
| cmontyburns Citizen Username: Cmontyburns Post Number: 738 Registered: 12-2003  |
e_roberts: I wasn't criticizing people for not being residents and voting. My position is Seton Hall students should be able to vote in South orange, since they live here most of the year. Yes, I have New Jersey plates, yes, I pay New Jersey auto insurance. As for why I still have a New York driver's license: I'm an anarchist, I guess. But don't worry, I'll keep a copy of my car registration and tax forms near the front door in case I need to convince an ambulance driver that I've paid enough to deserve medical care. | ||
| Taylor M Citizen Username: Anotherusername Post Number: 387 Registered: 8-2004 |
OOOh eroberts I missed that about the NY license. Or it went over my head. Cmonty, maybe you should go to DMV and get a NJ license!!!  SoLady, I'm not sure who you spoke to at SHU, but both the President's Office and as well as the Office of Student Affairs have said anyone could post on a message board and say they have the authority to speak for SHU; but it doesn't make it true. They agreed BMO should be posting under his real name. As for having 'reasons for not using his real name...' He SAYS he's part of this committee, he says the committee is trying to connect with the community. So, use your real name! Give me a break. Do you anyone would take Mark Rosner, or O'Leary seriously if they posted under 'screen names?' Let's get real. If BMO runs for a BOT position, as the SHU administrators I spoke with said, he'll have to use his real name. He isn't going to run under 'BMO.' If BMO stands behind what this committee is doing, then don't hide behind a screen name. OR is BMO concerned of what his (if BMO is a 'he')classmates might say? | ||
| SoOrLady Citizen Username: Soorlady Post Number: 1848 Registered: 9-2003 |
Taylor - yes anyone can use the board.. my point was that he was initiating a fairly good and balanced dialog - before it got muddled with the who can vote/who should run stuff. BMO - if you're out there reading this.. seems like it's time to step forward. | ||
| mammabear Citizen Username: Mammabear Post Number: 186 Registered: 5-2001  |
claiming a child as a dependent has nothing to do with whether they live at home or not. A full time student would be claimed by their parents as a dependent, no matter where their residence is. It's about income and how your social security number is reported each year to the IRS, not where your live. | ||
| kriss Citizen Username: Kriss Post Number: 132 Registered: 6-2001 |
Whether your parents claim you as a dependant is irrelevant wrt voter registration. In NJ, students have the right to register to vote where they attend college. See League of Women Voter's info: http://www.lwvnj.org/collegestudents.html I attended college in PA and was able to register to vote there, even though my "home" was in another state, and my mother claimed me as a dependant on her tax returns. | ||
| susan1014 Supporter Username: Susan1014 Post Number: 438 Registered: 3-2002 |
College students are adults, and are given the right to make their own decision about the one locality in which it makes the most sense for them to vote. Some choose to follow politics at home, others in the place where they are living, paying rent, shopping, etc. What makes the most sense varies by student. Personally I voted at my childhood home by absentee for a couple of years, and then registered locally when I realized that I followed local/state issues in my college town more carefully than in my hometown (to which I wasn't planning to return...). I have no more problem with non-tax paying Seton Hall students voting here than I do with non-tax paying children of local residents voting here while going to school a thousand miles away. I only hope that no one votes without developing an informed position on the issues! | ||
| Old and Gray Citizen Username: Pastmyprime Post Number: 31 Registered: 2-2005 |
Susan summed up my point I think better then I did...If they are transplanted residents then thats okay...but if they are in the dorms then thats a bit different. | ||
| BMO Citizen Username: Bmo Post Number: 25 Registered: 2-2005 |
WOW a lot has happened in the past few days. That'll teach me to go study for midterms and not check out MOL for a few days hehe. As I said previously I only speak on behalf of myself, myself alone, and not for the school. Yes I am part of the Village Liaison Committee and THAT COMMITTEE has the full support of the administration. However only the administration can speak on behalf of the University. I am just trying to give you the perspective of what a student is thinking. As to posting with a screenname: just about everyone on this site posts with a screenname. If I were ever going to run for local office, I would be posting under my full name - and if that day comes - I will post under my full name. Unfortunately it seems like this has turned into a debate about the legality of students voting which is not where this started out. I now regret posting the question about students running for BOT, I was simply looking for some village perspective, but apparently that was too much to handle. The 800+ students who have registered to vote ARE registered and they will be voting. If anyone would like to refute that you can contact the Essex County Board of Elections. Now hopefully we can move this thread back to questions and issues facing both communities. | ||
| BMO Citizen Username: Bmo Post Number: 26 Registered: 2-2005 |
And Mr/Mrs TaylorM, if you have a problem you would like to discuss with me, you can always feel free to send me a private message instead of pointlessly attacking my character on what should be a positive thread advocating bringing students and residents closer together. | ||
| susan1014 Supporter Username: Susan1014 Post Number: 440 Registered: 3-2002 |
BMO, most of us appreciate your intentions in fostering discussion, so don't let one strong (and repeated) opinion drive you away! | ||
| BMO Citizen Username: Bmo Post Number: 27 Registered: 2-2005 |
Did anybody see that game?!?!? We were up by 11 points!! What happened? | ||
| Taylor M Citizen Username: Anotherusername Post Number: 388 Registered: 8-2004 |
BMO- Sure some people post under 'screen names.'Why won't you use your real name? Your part of this committee, right? What's the big deal? | ||
| hariseldon Citizen Username: Hariseldon Post Number: 289 Registered: 5-2001  |
Asked by someone who refuses to reveal their real name. HAHAHAHA. What's the big deal? | ||
| BMO Citizen Username: Bmo Post Number: 28 Registered: 2-2005 |
"TaylorM" - My name is Brian O'Malley. As I said before I am a sophomore at Seton Hall and a South Orange voter. Many MOL posters have already figured out who I am from my postings and from the online weblog I had about South Orange at the end of last year - "South Orange: A Student's Perspective". I was actively involved in the Voter Registration Drive of last fall that registered over 800 students to vote and as I said I am a member of the Village Liaison Committee. I attend Village Hall meetings as regularly as is possible and have had the opportunity to work with a wide spectrum of Village leaders. If anyone would like to contact me my email is omalleba@shu.edu or you can send me an MOL message. | ||
| kevin Citizen Username: Eloso Post Number: 13 Registered: 12-2004 |
Now that everyone has chimed in about how they feel about the right to vote and we have confirmed that it is a legal right and we've had the discussion about using screen names or not, can we please get back to improving the SHU/SO partnership. I say partnership because like it or not neither is going away. For the students involved - I say bravo. College life is typically so insular that it is rare to get involved in the community. For some of the townspeople involved - I say act your age. If Brian is an example of the SHU maturity then I say let them run the place. Many of you sound like people who move close to the airport and then complain about the noise. SHU has been here longer than most of us and will be here after we are all gone. If you don't like living in a college town then maybe you shouldn't. I apologize in advance for those people who are upset by my statements, but I can only take so much whining - (students are loud, students can vote, students don't pay taxes, students use screen names, SHU has a fence, etc...) Kevin | ||
| cmontyburns Citizen Username: Cmontyburns Post Number: 740 Registered: 12-2003 |
Exxxxcellent, Kevin. | ||
| BMO Citizen Username: Bmo Post Number: 29 Registered: 2-2005 |
Mikhail Gorbachev is coming to Seton Hall! The former Soviet President will be visiting SHU on April 19th to speak. Tickets are $25. Go to: http://events.shu.edu/announcements/200503/gorbachev.html for more info! | ||
| Pizzaz Citizen Username: Pizzaz Post Number: 1628 Registered: 11-2001  |
Thanks for the invitation. I would enjoy hearing him speak (does he speak fluent english or will he speak with a translator?). | ||
| Old and Gray Citizen Username: Pastmyprime Post Number: 41 Registered: 2-2005 |
BMO...how much will it cost the town and county to provide security for this visit??? |
