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     Pizzaz Citizen Username: Pizzaz Post Number: 1969 Registered: 11-2001  |
http://www.cinemax.com/reel/sisterrose/ | ||
| Sheena Collum SHU Citizen Username: Sheena_collum Post Number: 187 Registered: 4-2005  |
Brett: A Jewish group has not been proposed by the students. If it had, it would be a matter worth investigating. SALAAM is able to exist because it's focus is on the Muslim culture as oppose to Islamic religious practices. | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 1138 Registered: 5-2004  |
So what someone needs to do is propose the following curriculum: "parental guilt - are they a disappointment, or just being kids? "The medicinal qualities of chicken soup," "how to find a girl good enough for your son, the doctor"  | ||
| Two Sense Citizen Username: Twosense Post Number: 247 Registered: 7-2004 |
Bob K: Comparing Brandeis University to SHU isn't fair or accurate. While Brandeis is a Jewish-sponsored university, it absolutely is non-sectarian. From its mission statement, at: http://www.brandeis.edu/overview/mission.html. "Brandeis was founded in 1948 as a nonsectarian university under the sponsorship of the American Jewish community to embody its highest ethical and cultural values and to express its gratitude to the United States through the traditional Jewish commitment to education. By being a nonsectarian university that welcomes students, teachers, and staff of every nationality, religion, and political orientation, Brandeis renews the American heritage of cultural diversity, equal access to opportunity, and freedom of expression." | ||
| Two Sense Citizen Username: Twosense Post Number: 248 Registered: 7-2004 |
Sheena Collum SHU: Do you know whether SHU student health provides any support to students seeking birth control or counseling beyond preaching abstinence? | ||
| Sheena Collum SHU Citizen Username: Sheena_collum Post Number: 188 Registered: 4-2005 |
No, they will not. Our Red Cross student organization did AIDS week and big educational programs around "safe sex". They were not able to distribute any form of contraceptives or advocate for the use of them. We do offer a wide variety of counseling for students but the school's stance is very firm & there is def. no birth control being given to students on this campus. BTW - u can just call me Sheena  | ||
| MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 2556 Registered: 5-2001  |
Gee, I'm sure that *solves* the problem of all that pesky pre-marital sex.  | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 1140 Registered: 5-2004 |
Though I disagree with the Church's position on this, I can appreciate and respect SHU's need to follow the Church on this issue. I just won't be sending my kids there. | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 681 Registered: 4-2004 |
Neither will I. | ||
| SoOrLady Citizen Username: Soorlady Post Number: 2272 Registered: 9-2003 |
Sheena - interesting way to do some covert funding for that jitney - sell condoms start at .50 each at say 6 p.m. - price goes up with the evening's hour so that they're $5 at midnight.  | ||
| Kristen Williamson Citizen Username: Kris219 Post Number: 32 Registered: 4-2005 |
(RE: MHD's post) That's the stance of the Catholic Church, so Seton Hall most likely isn't going to have a "sex week" or "condom week" (which is highly celebrated at public Universitites) any time soon. That's just something that staff abide by and that students accept. If I need a condom, perscription for the pill, the morning after pill, or anything else on that wavelength, I am definately not finding it at our Student Health Services office. I came to SHU for the education, not for the pill. I didn't come here for religious purposes either. Catholicism isn't forced upon anyone. Having faith and religion in your life is encouraged and there are programs and services for those who are interested. For those who aren't, there are still some required courses under Religious Studies and our Philosophy Department, but I have yet to find anyone forcing me to believe one thing or the next. The classes educate you about the topic, but once again, don't force it upon you. You're not told that you're a horrible sinner if you have pre-marital sex and use a condom, but the University sure as heck isn't going to support it, and definately not in the Residence Halls. | ||
| Sheena Collum SHU Citizen Username: Sheena_collum Post Number: 190 Registered: 4-2005 |
SoOrLady - lol  | ||
| Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 3401 Registered: 5-2001  |
Maybe my memory is defective, but I don't recall anyone in an official SHU capacity ever posting here (SHU students notwithstanding). I'm open to correction here, and, in fact would love to see MOL host an actual dialogue (on any number of topics) with someone representing the SHU administration. -s. BTW: I bring this up because I feel it's just a tad unfair to ask Sheena, Kristen, or any other undergrad MOLers from SHU to act "in locO administratus" for their alma mater. That said, GO PIRATES! Oh, and Sheena: isn't "lol " somewhat redundant? (Pardon an old ex-English teacher. I just can't help it...) | ||
| Old and Gray Citizen Username: Pastmyprime Post Number: 133 Registered: 2-2005 |
As a catholic and SHU alumni, whose son is an SHU alumni...if you don't like the school, its catholic positions on issues then I think you may have or should have looked toward a public school, or more liberal private school. I think if you attend a catholic school you need to assume that the school will be conservative in nature...not that the student body needs to completely reflect this or even be catholic, but you ARE attending a catholic school. 30 years ago the student body was wearing jackets and ties, and before that it was a male school only. I think SHU has advanced pretty far, but you cannot expect the school to deviate from its Catholic traditions, background, and policy. Nor as an alumni would I want to see the school loose its Catholic Identity. I fell the school should welcome everyone, but I think everyone needs to understand where they are going to school as well. | ||
| Pizzaz Citizen Username: Pizzaz Post Number: 1970 Registered: 11-2001 |
Soda, it is the oldest arch-diocesan university in the country. The University Administration surely will not answer to you in this forum. I just googled Yeshiva and found no mention whatsoever of a gay or lesbian student association. Am I surprised, NO! Give up, soda-pop....you bore me. BTW: Why do you have such an interest? There are plenty of outlets for those of like minded persuasion to achieve personal awareness and self-fulfillment.... | ||
| Sheena Collum SHU Citizen Username: Sheena_collum Post Number: 191 Registered: 4-2005 |
awww Soda - that was actually for your benefit. I know you're not always fond of my lols so I supplemented it with a smiley face just for you | ||
| cmontyburns Citizen Username: Cmontyburns Post Number: 962 Registered: 12-2003  |
It's not exactly a news flash that the catholic church doesn't tolerate homosexuality (or roughly 9 trillion other things). I almost said that "catholics don't tolerate homosexuality," but then I knew I'd get an avalanche of people saying "Wait a minute! I'm catholic and I'm all for gay rights!" (Ah, the kooky contradictions of religion. Hours of fun.) Anyways, I'm sure many people who go to SHU go for the education, and not the religious component, so it's a bit unfair to say gay students should just "go somewhere else." Seton Hall serves a diverse local population, and its pricing is attractive to a lot of folks. Plus it offers a quality education, so it puts some people in the awkward position of having to decide whether to go to a school that will offer them a great education, even though it officially believes they are going to hell. | ||
| LibraryLady(ncjanow) Supporter Username: Librarylady Post Number: 2616 Registered: 5-2001  |
From GraduateLaw School of Yeshiva University Gay & Lesbian Law Student Alliance at Cardoza Law School of Yeshiva University} Seton Hall Law does offer a Sir Thomas More Society, but alas, no organization for Gay and Lesbians. | ||
| Nohero Supporter Username: Nohero Post Number: 4534 Registered: 10-1999  |
Just some thread drift - Thomas More is the patron saint of lawyers. He got that way by rejecting the state's attempt to impose its religious beliefs on him. Unfortunately, the "Thomas More Legal Center" in Michigan appropriated the name for its efforts to do the opposite. As for Seton Hall, the Sir Thomas More Society is a simply a club for pre-law students, I believe. Not related. Anyway, drift over ... | ||
| Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 3403 Registered: 5-2001 |
Not quite yet. Sir Thomas was a practicing Catholic, beheaded because he would not sign an oath of approval to King Henry VIII's intended divorce. Henry, self-appointed Head of The Church in England, attempted to override the Vatican's dogma relating to divorce; the secular political pragmatists surrounding Sir Thomas begged him to sign the oath, but he would not, nor would he say why he would not (such was his faith in the Magna Carta and the rights it bestowed upon him as an Englishman), opening the way for political foes such as Cromwell to charge him with treason. Here was a man of religious faith besieged by a secular world, willing to die for his convictions. A true martyr. How ironic that his name is in any way linked to the training of lawyers. -s. BTW: Pizzaz, what does the name Thomas More mean to you? |
