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     Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 3480 Registered: 5-2001  |
Where's John? Ohhhh, John? Where are you, John? Hmmmm. No John? No support for his heinous LL-bashing? No apology? Why, John? No guts no glory, John. John???? Hey, O&G: Have you seen John? -s. | ||
| susan1014 Supporter Username: Susan1014 Post Number: 762 Registered: 3-2002 |
Old and Gray...give it a rest unless you are library lady's supervisor. You don't know her work schedule, her days off, her official breaks, or the rules of usage at her place of employment (formal or informal). Similarly, you don't know if I'm posting on my day off, on an official break, or while taking a sanity break during a 12 hour day. When someone chooses to be on here under their own name (a choice that you and I have not made), I don't think it is fair for outsiders to make assumptions about their work habits based on their posting habits. | ||
| mary032 Citizen Username: Mary032 Post Number: 176 Registered: 8-2001 |
Soda, why the hel don't you take your one-sided duel with "John" outside MOL and stop polluting this board with negativity and stupid innuendoes? Why, since you obviously have nothing interesting to say, don't you find a hobby that will keep you busy? Or better yet why don't you do something in town that doesn't need much intelligence? Anything. It will do you good and free us from your constant ranting and livid remarks. | ||
| Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 3484 Registered: 5-2001 |
Thanks for your thoughtful and well-reasoned suggestions, Mary032. Since you're so very tired of "pollution", "negativity", and "innuendos", hows about you standing up for Nancy Janow, who, in case you've not been taking notes, is the injured party here? Just to refresh your memory, it's been just over two days, now, since John Pogany smeared her with a vile and unsupported claim, and he still refuses to either back up his assertion or apologize to her. I consider LibraryLady a friend, and friends tell the truth. Perhaps, if you would be a friend to Mr. Pogany, you ought to tell him the truth: Perhaps you (and the others who seem to just wish I'd go away) should contact Mr. Pogany (He's not that hard to find, as I'm sure you know) and explain to him that a nice person just doesn't do what he did to Nancy and expect to walk away with impunity. Why haven't you already tried to explain this to him??? Is it because you have no sense of fair play yourselves, or because you fear his political clout, or do not wish to incur the wrath of the accountant/pizzamaker? I cannot even guess, but neither you nor Dave Ross seem willing to get in John's face about his transgression. So I guess my livid remarks will just continue, unless John apologizes or Dave suspends me. Have a nice afternoon. -s. | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 5082 Registered: 5-2001  |
Soda, LL seems perfectly capable of defending herself, why don't you just let her choose to or not? | ||
| Bob K Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 8898 Registered: 5-2001 |
Possibly a duel is in order here. Something like the OK Corral, but, uhm, less permanent. How about at the Beifus site at 5:00pm on Thursday. The weapons will be SuperSoakers.  | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 6760 Registered: 4-1997  |
The Catholic Church is speaking to Catholics, so when someone says "To have such a massive institution as part of my community that does not respect my values is intolerable to me" it is a misapprehension of religion. I can pick out any religion and find aspects of it to be against something I personally believe or disbelieve. I have even posted about it at times and taken a bit of flack and I thought more about it and decided that having extreme positions about religion is still extremism. | ||
| Mayor McCheese Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese Post Number: 377 Registered: 7-2004  |
S.O.D.A. give it a rest. If you want to have a discussion about this topic just do it. But don't just spit out your idiotic comments calling for John to come out so you can bash him. Try doing something constructive with your time. Build a model car, paint your house, take a walk, don't come back.... | ||
| Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 3485 Registered: 5-2001 |
mem: You're quite right: LL is very capable of defending herself, but she's just too nice a person to keep ragging the offender to do the right thing. I on the other hand, as has been so well opined by many literati on this board, am a scum-sucking lowlife with nothing better to do than to harass poor, innocent, beloved defender-of-the-faith Pizzaman John Pogany. So I press on... Bobbest K: How's about John either puts up some damning evidential posts to support his sad-••• Nancy-bashing, or he apologizes to her in the window of Sonny's Bagels? Dave & Cheesie: Whatever... | ||
| MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 2576 Registered: 5-2001  |
S.o.d.a. - finally, after 3485 posts - finally you made ONE that I agree with!  | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 5083 Registered: 5-2001 |
Soda, Do you know John at all? He's a really nice guy, so I don't know if you are joking along or not... | ||
| Sheena Collum SHU Citizen Username: Sheena_collum Post Number: 210 Registered: 4-2005  |
Soda is far from joking. If he really knew John, he'd feel foolish. And Soda, if I could even attempt to figure you out, I'm sure you'd surprise me as well (for the better). Everyone be friends! (but I suppose that would make for less entertainment on MOL) | ||
| MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 2577 Registered: 5-2001 |
Soda absolutely knows John. Soda shows up at Bunny's everytime there is FREE food. | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 5084 Registered: 5-2001 |
And so this is a running joke between them then? | ||
| Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 3486 Registered: 5-2001 |
mem, yes I do know John, and, as I have said (in a recent post on a thread unwisely deleted by King of All Dave in some erroneous attempt to spare that same John from yet another plea that he make things right), he's got so many nice qualities that I really want to like him. Honest I do. But this Nancy-bashing thing is beyond the pale. And while I must admit to getting quite tired of fruitlessly attempting to dislodge him from his guilty silence, John seems to show no interest in either proving the truth of his accusations or fessing up to his malifaction. So you see, it has little to do with whether or not John Pogany's a Prince of a Guy or the Prince of Darkness: he screwed up, and we should ALL be pissed at him. Especially those who admire the person we want to think he is. If I thought he was just some scum-sucking lowlife with nothing better to do than bash innocent LibraryLadies, do you think I'd be making this stink about him? Uh-uh. Not worth the time. And yeah, John and I do like to jokingly push each other's buttons occasionally, but this isn't about that. It's something basic to our little virtual community: fairness. I'm actually pretty sad that nobody seems to get it... Gotta get back to work now. Bye. -s. | ||
| MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 2578 Registered: 5-2001 |
Soda, Work? Don't forget to ask your customers "if they want fries with that"!!! | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 699 Registered: 4-2004 |
Allow a bit of return-to-thread drift... Excellent post, Dave, and I concur. | ||
| Lucy Supporter Username: Lucy Post Number: 30 Registered: 5-2005 |
I do not think this a running joke, Mem. Soda, with his posts last night and the ones above clearly has shown he lost his mind. Maybe for the interest of other posters Dave/Jamie allow Soda a time out. I hope he takes his meds. The man is a stalker. | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 5087 Registered: 5-2001 |
But all John did was ask if LL was posting on MOL from work? That's not bashing - is there something I am missing? | ||
| Lucy Supporter Username: Lucy Post Number: 31 Registered: 5-2005 |
I think Brett summarizes her best. http://www.southorangevillage.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi?tpc=3133&post=410569#POST4105 69 and then Dave reiterates one of her quotes: "To have such a massive institution as part of my community that does not respect my values is intolerable to me". http://www.southorangevillage.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi?tpc=3133&post=411904#POST4119 04 These links are in this thread. Wow, this is easy. | ||
| Ukealalio Citizen Username: Ukealalio Post Number: 2284 Registered: 6-2003 |
Yes, you're missing this: "You've posted far too many insults on those who have faith as Catholics in your past postings. If I go to the archives I can find a myriad of attacks.You live in your own little world where people who don't hold your views deserve no respect". The "myriad" of attacks he finally came up with was a pretty innocuous comment LL made about Rudy Guiliani during the art scandal at the Brooklyn Museum. He may be a terrific guy but he should apologize. | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 5088 Registered: 5-2001 |
How very silly the whole thing is then. Tempest in a teapot. | ||
| Mayor McCheese Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese Post Number: 379 Registered: 7-2004 |
Oh my god! It's been two hours sinse S.O.D.A. posted something rude on this thread. Are you OK S.O.D.A.? BTW: Back to work S.O.D.A.? I didn't think you had a job. | ||
| Suzanne Janow Citizen Username: Lilmissll Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2005 |
I've been reading this for the past couple of days and I just to say that as a 20 year old college student I feel I'm at least 10 times more mature than most of you so-called adults. Do you want to know how I got that way? My mom.. she's LibraryLady and I've also known SODA for 15 of those years. He's helped too ,contrary to what you may believe about him. You seem to think that she won't defend herself in this thread because she knows she did something wrong and is prejudiced but honestly she just knows there nothing to gain. You all will continue to think what you want because every accusation here has been unfounded anyway. If this whole thread was honestly about what happened at Seton Hall that one thing but it has disintergrated into a petty cat-fight. Just agree to disagree. However, just because somebody you know says something about somebody else don't just mindlessly believe them without proof. My mother is in fact not prejudiced, some of her best friends are catholic, my two aunts are as well and have been accepted as sisters without question even after one divorced her brother. I can't count how many of my and my brother's friends who are of any race, color or creed you can thing of call her mom and talk to her without having us around. She isn't anti-catholic, she's anti having parasitic institutions take taxpayers money for services and expecting exemptions from the law. If you have a problem with me, PL me, post, I really don't give a fcuk what you people think about me, but don't be dissing my mama. (that was a joke for those of you who were a little slower.) | ||
| Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 3487 Registered: 5-2001 |
I suggest that anyone who doubts the right and wrong of my issue with John Pogany should simply take the time to re-read the entire thread, from the beginning, and take in the flow of the discussion, and how it began to turn ugly only when he entered into it. Really. Do it. The whole thing. It's really a pretty interesting read. John: If you're still even reading this thread (I know, I said "I'm out" some time ago, but...), please think about this: It's not like we all don't know the difference between right and wrong. We do know the difference. And so do you. And you know that what you said about Nancy was just wrong. It was wrong, John. And you've had nearly three days and a dozen opportunities to make it right. Isn't it bothering you? It must be, because you haven't even tried to support your own falsehood. Why don't you just make this end the way it should have a couple of days ago: you know that you should offer Nancy an apology. It doesn't even have to be here on MOL. Give her a call, and tell her that you over-reacted, and you're sorry. Don't let all the nasty crap I'm getting from your other MOL friends fool you into thinking that if you can ignore this it'll simply go away, and that you'll just go on as if you'd done nothing wrong. It won't go away. And neither will your private knowledge that what you did was not worthy of the best parts of you. I may never vote for you, John, but I still want to believe that you're a decent guy with a conscience and some guts. Do the right thing, John -- not because some of us want you to, but because you know the difference between right and wrong. That's the last you'll hear from me about it. -s. | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 6765 Registered: 4-1997 |
I think they can exchange equal apologies. LL for being insensitive to Catholics and Pizzaz for being too quick to judge. | ||
| gotcha Citizen Username: Gotcha Post Number: 33 Registered: 5-2005 |
LL for being insensitive to Catholics Where in this thread, Dave oh great arbiter of sensitivity, did LL show lack of sensitivity?? Is SHU the Church? Can't a citizen disagree with the University? | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 6766 Registered: 4-1997 |
Disagree is fine, but "I find the presence of this Catholic univerisity in my town intolerable"? What if someone said, "I find Jewish-owned schools intolerable?" Both are wrong. Now her daughter finds SHU "parasitic" for merely obeying the laws our nation's founders set up so people could practice their religion peaceably. The founding fathers weren't looking to shut down religion, guys. They were looking to protect all religious freedom. Piling insult on insult is probably not the best way to deal with this. A little sensitivity from all involved could go a long way. | ||
| gotcha Citizen Username: Gotcha Post Number: 34 Registered: 5-2005 |
To have such a massive institution as part of my community that does not respect my values is intolerable to me Where does it say Catholic Dave? Is SHU an educational institution or a religious one? It uses one to claim freedom of religion and the other to get services provided (basicall) free by the taxpayers of South Orange. | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave Post Number: 6768 Registered: 4-1997 |
When you find a way around the Constitution, let us know. In the meantime, keep hammering away at Catholic institutions. It's sure to help your cause. Last time a nation started to do private land grabs it was 1935 in Germany. Freedom of religion is important and some sensitivity toward neighbors goes a long way. | ||
| AntoninaKC Citizen Username: Antoninakc Post Number: 38 Registered: 5-2005 |
Yes, this sure does sound "10 times mature": __She isn't anti-catholic, she's anti having parasitic institutions take taxpayers money for services and expecting exemptions from the law. If you have a problem with me, PL me, post, I really don't give a fcuk what you people think about me, but don't be dissing my mama__} | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 1931 Registered: 6-2001  |
Again, continuing my new style, I must comment on this sparkling gem from S.O.D.A. as if it were freshly posted: S.D.A., the election is over. Go look at the erections, divert your attention any way HUMANLY POSSIBLE. It's Old. And gray. And In the Way. <----- carrying on with thread oh, and I do think you doth protesteth too much. LL/NJ are (is?) a woman of her own right who can voice her own objections. Why the overwhelming gauntlet? | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 1932 Registered: 6-2001 |
mem: See what I'm saying??? | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 1933 Registered: 6-2001 |
and my point again, via the Mayor: See, what I'm saying is, where's the real problem? <----- back to browse | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 1934 Registered: 6-2001 |
PAY DIRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have nothing to compare to John Pogany's smallest toenail. Self-loathing is *not* the first sign of trouble up north. Headwhere, as it were. S.E.E.K. H.E.L.P. S.O.D.A.!!! | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 1935 Registered: 6-2001 |
Proper due deference to the Kingest of All and The World's Best Mayor:
Nice, SOD, nice. What's next, you'll thank your Mother? | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 1936 Registered: 6-2001 |
No mirrors in the Coke machine?
?? | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 1937 Registered: 6-2001 |
S.A.D.S.O.D.A.:
WHAT? Actual news and you don't share? Is that the prob? Pressures from a new job?  best | ||
| Back in Switzerland! Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 1938 Registered: 6-2001 |
Pizzaz, my friend: Prehaps our ukelele playing friend is correct. Tell Nancy you're sorry, she's actually on my "B" list 'cause she's a friend of Bill's (and you're not) and she does get to work at a library. Maybe, maybe not. Up to you. And I don't think she's a Catholic basher. I think she's lazy in her religion, as I am. | ||
| Back in Switzerland! Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 1939 Registered: 6-2001 |
SuzanneLibraryDaughter: Just wait 'til you're our ages! You revert in a big hurry once you realize it's gone. Now you're obliged to report back to us in 20 years! You, like your Mom, are cat-lovers-always-okay-in-my-book. Your Mom and I disagree on the local partisan political level but are pretty attuned nationally. You can ask her, she'll confirm. Thank you. As I mentioned above, aging makes grownups slower and weirder. |
