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Parkingsux
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Username: Parkingsux

Post Number: 26
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 3:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think we should have a dog park in south orange. The park next to church street has been vacant for plenty of years. It would be nice to bring your dog to the park to meet other dogs in town for him or her to play with.
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Pizzaz
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Username: Pizzaz

Post Number: 2189
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 3:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why not a parking lot?
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MHD
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 2648
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 3:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you mean a Barking lot????
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mrosner
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Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 2124
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 3:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Or a Bark Park.
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Parkingsux
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Username: Parkingsux

Post Number: 28
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 3:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It would be better then drivin 30 mins to a dog park.
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Montrose13
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Username: Montrose13

Post Number: 13
Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 5:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are barking up the wrong tree. Please spare us. Before we spend a nickel on a dog park we should make sure that our people parks are maintained and in the very best condition possible. At present, this is not the case. And after we do that we should make sure that our downtown is properly maintained--which is totally not the case. In fact our downtown is a disgrace.
Go visit the dog parks in Manhattan where there is a reason to have them. The area of the parks where they exist are completely unusable due to the smell etc. We have enough trouble with the smell in the area where the NJ Transit buses park. Please spare us.
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Nonymous Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 8593
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 5:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a group in Millburn starting a dog park in the South Mountain Reservation. I think this is a great idea, because it would be a county resource. I started looking into building one in Maplewood a few months ago and dropped the ball. Now that I hear this news, I am heartened to learn of it and will defer to that group. I think the reservation is certainly close enough for me, though being able to walk to it would have been nice.

AlleyGator, on this board, is in contact with the Millburn group.

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Dust Buster
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Username: Coyote

Post Number: 31
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 8:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder if they are thinking about using the fenced in deer area. It would be great. It could be closed so the dogs would not run away and sprayed for ticks.

Who can we get in touch with to support this idea?
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jayjay
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Username: Jayjayp

Post Number: 104
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 8:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Montrose13 makes an excellent point. The current state of our parks warrants serious attention. Trees have been lost and not replaced. The house by the pond looks like a neglected storage facility. And then there's the streetscape which was installed with the walks and gaslamps in the center of town. Did they ever consider maintenance when those designs were implemented? Did they ever float an RFP to solocit concepts from multiple firms, some of which might have considered maintenace aspects in any final design? If they are going to have landscaped walkways, they need to be maintained. And just throwing some mulch is not maintenance.

There is no comprehensive strategic approach to the parks or anything else for that matter. They tore down the old Spiotta Park which had nice brick patios which required no maintenance, and instead put in sod which has to be cut and maintained. At that time they also build the fountain and gazebo at the train station. Now they want to tear it down to install a sculpture. Enough already.

As for a dog park, who's going to pay for it? Who would maintain it? With all that's going on, I'd like the BOT to FOCUS!!!

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Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13

Post Number: 1888
Registered: 1-2004


Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 9:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Didn't we already have this discussion this year?

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cmontyburns
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Username: Cmontyburns

Post Number: 1121
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 9:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

People who own dogs would maintain it. Dog parks are often some of the nicest parks in a given town. It's the parks run by the town itself that tend to be poopholes.
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Lucy
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Username: Lucy

Post Number: 192
Registered: 5-2005


Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 9:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom how or who do we contact to show support for the dog park?
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mrosner
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Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 2127
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 9:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have been discussing two potential locations for a dog park. The recreation committee will be reviewing the plans for one of them in the next couple of months.
To show support (and I have been pushing for one for a while) please send an email to either myself or the village clerk.
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MHD
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 2653
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 9:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark,

Don't you need to recuse yourself since you have a dog?
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snshirsch
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Username: Snshirsch

Post Number: 377
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 9:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And can we say what potential locations are being considered, or is that confidential?
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Ace789nj
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Username: Ace789nj

Post Number: 72
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How 'bout a cat park or a ferret path?


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mrosner
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Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 2128
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One location that has been discussed is the back of memorial park (on Valley street) and that is the one the recreation committee will be reviewing.
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mrosner
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Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 2129
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MHD: Technically the dog belongs to my wife. I am just the dog walker.
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aquaman
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Username: Aquaman

Post Number: 354
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

First, South Orange needs to make it legal to bring a dog into a park. Why look for spots for dog parks when no parkland allows dogs in?
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AlleyGater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 705
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mrosner: which email address would you like us to send our support emails to for you? What address should we use to send to the village clerk?
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joso
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Username: Joso

Post Number: 310
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The newly renovated park on Valley is rarely used and I always thought its use as a dog park made a great deal of sense. I have even used it as such "unofficailly" since no one is ever there.
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Parkingsux
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Username: Parkingsux

Post Number: 29
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some dog walkers just walk in circles...

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Ink
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Username: Pageturner

Post Number: 11
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The newly renovated park on Valley may not be used much yet, but once word gets out that they have a fabulous 'dinosaur themed' playground, the kids are going to come. We've been there a few times, and my daughter loves it. If that park is in contention, I would suggestion the rear part of it for a dog run, not in the front by the new playground equipment.
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jayjay
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Username: Jayjayp

Post Number: 105
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the dog owners want a dog park, let them pay for it. The last thing we need is another capital improvement project when the current ones have not been completed or those that are completed, not maintained properly. Its really getting absurd. Where is the overall vision for this town???

Maybe dogs could be walked by the old stone house, or by the river walk or by the tony smith sculture, or around the SOPAC obelisk. Need I go on?
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aquaman
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Username: Aquaman

Post Number: 356
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've never ever seen anyone in this park, you know, the one with rusty see-saws and sharpened jungle gym equipment from the 60's.


dog


It's long, ideal for running. That yellow line measures 530 feet - nearly 2 football fields long.

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Parkingsux
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Username: Parkingsux

Post Number: 31
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aqua, you are one cool dude.
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Nonymous Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 8604
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where is that site in the picture?
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Parkingsux
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Username: Parkingsux

Post Number: 32
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Next to the Gaslight Commons on Third Street in South Orange.
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mrosner
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Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 2130
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

alleygater: my email is mrosnernyc@yahoo.com
village clerk's email is MSmith@SouthOrange.org

Ink: As I stated previously the rear of the park is the area being considered. We would not touch the area recently renovated.

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Parkingsux
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Username: Parkingsux

Post Number: 35
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 1:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So Rosner, is this another "COMING SOON" proposal by the town?
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Ace789nj
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Username: Ace789nj

Post Number: 73
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 2:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm, I've gotta ask some of my older friends how they survived 10/15 years ago when there were no such a thing. Why can't folks just walk their dogs around like we used to, seems ubsurd to dedicate any land solely for dogs(or any other domesticated pets), wouldn't that be a waste of space & money ?
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The Man
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Username: Bumboklaat

Post Number: 14
Registered: 2-2005


Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 3:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ace - You make a very good point. ------

FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!!

I AM THE MAN - SHOW SOME RESPECT!
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Parkingsux
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Username: Parkingsux

Post Number: 37
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 3:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HOOT!! HOOT!!
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Parkingsux
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Username: Parkingsux

Post Number: 39
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 3:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MRosner you wouldn't touch the renovated part? I forgot we do need more rusty see saws in town and a basketball court with no rim.. I agree we should make a couple other parks like that. All we're missin is a bum sleepin on the bench and a port a john thats tipped over.
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Dust Buster
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Username: Coyote

Post Number: 32
Registered: 4-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 4:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Remember the homeless lady with the dog and shpping cart? The police use to take her out of town. What happened to her?
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Parkingsux
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Username: Parkingsux

Post Number: 42
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 4:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She was living in some garage on Ward Place and then moved somewhere above North Ridgewood. I haven't seen her in a couple of years.
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AlleyGater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 721
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

10 - 15 years ago, you could take your dog to "dog hill" and just let your dogs frolic in the park off leash. Until a few grumpy people complained, called the cops and ruined all the fun. Now we have to do it "legally" or not at all. As for maintenance, the dog owners can do the work, it's not very much maintenance, there is VERY little cost involved and could easily be gotten through donations. It isn't like this has to cost the tax payers tons of (or any) money.
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cmontyburns
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Username: Cmontyburns

Post Number: 1122
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 5:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ace: It's no more a waste of space than it is to dedicate land to tennis courts, or baseball diamonds, or swimming pools. not all residents use those things, either, but a significant number do.
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Nonymous Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 8630
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 5:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

AlleyGater, those of us who own sighthounds aren't offended by laws that forbid us from letting our dogs off leash, because we can't do it even if the law allows it. Of course, it does deprive you and your dog of fun, and that's a shame.

So AlleyGater, what's the latest news from the Millburn folks?
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Debra Davidson
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Username: Peanutslady

Post Number: 23
Registered: 5-2005


Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 6:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

YES, South Orange defiantly needs a dog park. Not only will it be place were dogs can meet other dogs. Dog owners can meet other
dog owners there too. The first time I sow a dog park was when I was a little girl. The dog park was in Boston Massachusetts. They had fire hydrants in there and other thing that dog like to play with. I can't weight for South Orange to get a dog park.

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