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     Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2672 Registered: 8-2003  |
mim - what's the difference between Bradley & Lamaze? Both are natural methods, as far as I know. But that's the extent of my knowledge. thanks! | ||
| mim Citizen Username: Mim Post Number: 656 Registered: 5-2001 |
Bradley emphasizes relaxation techniques (tho you're right -- they tend to go out the window when you're in extremis) and an informed approach to the medicalization of childbirth. Lamaze, in my opinion, is designed partly to make women 'better' (more compliant) patients. That's why hospitals tend to teach Lamaze, not Bradley. NATURAL CHILDBIRTH THE BRADLEY WAY by Susan McCutcheon-Rosegg will tell you more (tho I still recommend the classes as well). | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2673 Registered: 8-2003 |
is it possible to study the Bradley method with the knowledge you may still want an epidural?? Or does that defeat the purpose? I will try my best for the natural way, but I am aware of all the options that are available to me. And I intend to take full advantage of them , if necessary.  | ||
| mim Citizen Username: Mim Post Number: 659 Registered: 5-2001 |
I would think the Bradley techniques would be helpful in any case. But you might change your mind after reading the book... | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2675 Registered: 8-2003 |
thanks, mim. I think I WILL read a book, after all | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2676 Registered: 8-2003 |
thanks, mim. I think I WILL read a book, after all | ||
| mim Citizen Username: Mim Post Number: 660 Registered: 5-2001 |
Do! And let us know what you think! | ||
| notehead Supporter Username: Notehead Post Number: 3650 Registered: 5-2001  |
I'm happy to report that our amnio results are in and... Everything looks good!! YAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!! | ||
| ess Citizen Username: Ess Post Number: 2883 Registered: 11-2001  |
YAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY!! Awesome news. | ||
| Virtual It Girl Citizen Username: Shh Post Number: 4889 Registered: 5-2001 |
Congrats... I know there's a little musical genius in there. | ||
| LilLB Citizen Username: Lillb Post Number: 2219 Registered: 10-2002  |
I thought of a boys name I like. It doesn't start with an "M", but how about "Eli"? I suppose short for Elijah. I never really thought about this name and I don't know anyone with this name (except that actor Elijah Wood). But it just came to me the other night and I thought of you guys (you're the only "expecting" couple I know of right now). So, now you don't have to worry about picking any boys names - that's the "one."  | ||
| Debby Citizen Username: Debby Post Number: 2343 Registered: 5-2001 |
Haven't been here in a long time...how is lil Micah doing? Hope you're holding up well in the heat. Deb P.S. I'm 100% with bajou...I would not trust such a high center of gravity. I would go with a car seat stroller frame at first (an absolute life/back saver) and later on a jogger for around town and a light fold-up for travel. | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2705 Registered: 8-2003 |
Debby - we are definitely going with a "Snap and Go" for the first couple of months. We have some friends who are loaning us one, so thankfully we don't have to purchase it. The idea of buying something that would be used for 4 months upsets me. I decided we'll probably be one of those families with 3 or 4 strollers. But there are worse things we could do, right? We plan to be frugal in lots of other ways, but I just find the whole stroller thing too overwhleming to choose. LilB - Eli would make a great middle name. Notehead just emailed me this article. I don't get my nails done very often, but this certainly has me thinking.... Nailing down polish risk By LaMont Jones PITTSBURGH POST-GAZETTE Are beautifully polished nails a safety risk? That's a quandary facing a growing number of cosmetics companies, salons and customers as health and environmental advocates step up their attack against a controversial ingredient contained in most nail polishes — including some very popular brands. The chemical dibutyl phthalate, or DBP, acts as a binder to improve the lasting power of nail lacquer. But it's also been linked to cancer in lab animals, and underdeveloped genitals and other long-term fertility problems in newborn boys. And while many customers, nail technicians and salespersons aren't aware of the debate — and are just as likely to have never heard of DBP — environmental groups have mobilized to get DBP removed from all nail polishes sold in the United States. Estee Lauder is among some major brands that have done that. But many others have not, including salon favorite OPI, cult fave Essie and ubiquitous bargain brand Sally Hansen. In 2004, OPI was forced to remove DBP from its polishes sold in Europe after the European Union banned it along with many other personal-care product ingredients known or strongly suspected of causing cancer, mutations or birth defects. But the ban didn't necessarily mean that a substance had been proven harmful. The Phthalate Esters Panel of the American Chemistry Council and other proponents of phthalate use noted that risk assessments conducted by the European Union under the supervision of the European Chemicals Bureau expressed no health concerns about how DBP was used in cosmetics. OPI has no plans to remove DBP from polishes sold in the United States, saying that the level is so low that it poses no health risk. Most exposure to the chemical comes from inhaling it rather than absorbing it through nail and cuticle contact. Manufacturers of nail lacquers sold at retail in the United States are required to list ingredients on the packaging. Polishes formulated for salon use, however, are exempt. "There's lots of science showing reproductive toxicity," said Stacy Malkan, spokeswoman for The Campaign for Safe Cosmetics watchdog coalition, about DBP. "We're concerned about workers who use the products all day long and especially about pregnant women and developing babies and kids, the most vulnerable. (Dibutyl) phthalates affect the male reproductive system, which can lead to lowered sperm count, sperm damage and birth defects. "The size of the person and the timing of the exposure are as important as the amount of exposure," Malkan added. Proponents of DBP use in cosmetics are correct that nail polishes that include the ingredient have not been conclusively proven to be toxic to humans. Nor, however, has it been proven that DBP in polishes does not cause harmful long-term effects. And although nail polishes must be approved by the Food and Drug Administration, laws do not require cosmetics companies to prove that products are safe before putting them on the market. Thus, when it comes to dibutyl phthalates in nail polish, "it's not possible for the public to know the levels and whether they are low or high enough to be harmful," said Lauren Sucher, spokeswoman for the Environmental Working Group, a nonprofit research and watchdog organization in Washington, D.C. "We know the names of the ingredients, but we don't know the amounts of the ingredients in the recipe," she said. Often when products are tested before being put on the market, Sucher pointed out, they are checked only for immediate and acute reactions — not long-term health problems such as cancer risk or reproductive toxicity. Dibutyl phthalates were removed from Creative Nail Designs formulas last year as the controversy continued to heat up. Doug Schoon, vice president of science and technology at the company based in Vista, Calif., said the move was forced by a reactionary European Union. "This is all just a political snafu that this poor ingredient has been caught in," said Schoon. "This has turned into a legal and regulatory fiasco that has nothing to do with ingredient safety." He added that "most people don't know or care" about DBP. People come in contact with DBP and other phthalates in many forms, from children's plastic toys to vinyl shower curtains. A study published in September 2000 by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported the presence of dibutyl phthalates in every person tested — and the highest levels in women ages 20 to 40. The CDC suggested that cosmetics might be a source. Health and environmental groups began to search product labels and found that nail polish was the only product that listed phthalates as an ingredient. The Environmental Working Group published the findings in a November 2000 report titled "Beauty Secrets." In 2002, along with Women's Voices for the Earth and Health Care Without Harm, EWG issued another report titled "Not Too Pretty" that included other products that contained phthalates. More than 70 percent of products tested at an independent lab contained at least one type of phthalate, from face creams, lotions and shampoos to hair sprays, deodorants and fragrances. In the wake of the reports, the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics has been trying to persuade nail polish manufacturers to remove dibutyl phthalates. The Campaign's "Compact for Safe Cosmetics" encourages cosmetics companies to sign a pledge "to not use chemicals that are known or strongly suspected of causing cancer, mutation or birth defects in their products and to implement substitution plans that replace hazardous materials with safer alternatives in every market they serve." More than 300 companies — including The Body Shop, Kiss My Face and California Baby — had signed the covenant by May 15. The Campaign is pressuring industry giants Unilever, Avon, L'Oreal, Revlon, Estee Lauder and Procter & Gamble to sign on, too. 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| notehead Supporter Username: Notehead Post Number: 3679 Registered: 5-2001 |
Any copying, redistribution, or retransmission of any of the contents of this service without the expressed written consent of Arizona Daily Star or AzStarNet is prohibited. Dude, you are SO going to jail. I just hope they don't haul you in before Mrbtabr emerges. Don't worry, we'll visit you once a month. | ||
| LilLB Citizen Username: Lillb Post Number: 2250 Registered: 10-2002 |
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| Rosiegirl Citizen Username: Rosiegirl Post Number: 13 Registered: 5-2006  |
Hey Notehead...That jail cell might have to be a double.... Notehead just emailed me this article.  In which case, K & I would be more than happy to have Mrbtabr stay with us for a while!!! | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2718 Registered: 8-2003 |
I am taking my first prenatal yoga class tomorrow. I am looking forward to it, since I just got a look at my ••• and it ain't pretty. Up until April/May, Ihad been working out regularly, taking kickboxing classes at Blue Life karate and running not-so-frequently. I wasn't in amazing shape, but I felt pretty fit. I did my usual work out up through my 2nd month, then I caught a bit of a cold and stopped dead. since then, it has been too hot to do much working out and I have spent the last 2-3 months on the couch in the AC. Now I am so out of shape, it's sad. Plus, I am starting to waddle, and that's not cute. I'd like to get a prenatal Pilates DVD. Anyone have any recommendations? any other suggestions for getting back in the workout routine? | ||
| Rosiegirl Citizen Username: Rosiegirl Post Number: 16 Registered: 5-2006 |
Now I am so out of shape, it's sad. Plus, I am starting to waddle, and that's not cute.  You couldn't waddle if you tried!!! Now me on the other hand.... | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2720 Registered: 8-2003 |
Ahhh...rosie. You are blind, girl. Just a few hours ago you told me pregnancy becomes me. you can't be trusted | ||
| ess Citizen Username: Ess Post Number: 2987 Registered: 11-2001 |
Not only that, but you are the only person I can think of who would make even a waddle cute. IF, that is, you were to waddle, which you don't. | ||
| Rosiegirl Citizen Username: Rosiegirl Post Number: 19 Registered: 5-2006 |
Ess...that's what I was trying to tell her!! She's lost her mind...all of her brain cells have gone to Nutter-Butter, OOPS!!! I mean Mrbtabr!!!} | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2722 Registered: 8-2003 |
aw gee, guys. you're both sweet. rosie - I told Notehead that you call Mrbtabr "Nutter Butter" and we think it's very cute. We are considering it for the actual name (it is SO gender-neutral!) but to stick with our desire to have the name start with 'M", we are going to change it to "Mutter Butter" that ok with you? (PS- you think a little Nutter Butter will get rid of the cellulite on my •••?) | ||
| LilLB Citizen Username: Lillb Post Number: 2268 Registered: 10-2002 |
Remember the commercials?? (set to a tune) Have another Nutter Butter peanut butter sandwich cookie! Sung like "HAAAAAAAAAAAAVVV-A nother nutter butter peanut butter sandwhich cooohoookieeeee!" OK....I think I've officially "lost it." | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2723 Registered: 8-2003 |
LilB - I know we are contemporaries, but I just can't seem to remember that one. will you sing it for me next time I see you? | ||
| LilLB Citizen Username: Lillb Post Number: 2269 Registered: 10-2002 |
You're gonna be sorry you asked.... But, after a couple of drinks, I'm sure I'll be belting it out at the top of my lungs.... | ||
| Rosiegirl Citizen Username: Rosiegirl Post Number: 21 Registered: 5-2006 |
Now that I think about it, I rather prefer Mutter-Butter!! I don't want people looking at me like I'm Hannibal Lechter when I say that I am craving some Nutter butters!!! Lil...I wish I could remember that commercial (now I KNOW I'm getting old!! Though they say the the memory is the second thing to go...I just wish I could remember what the first was!!!) Teach it to Pip so she can sing it to me. (Pip...I don't think you EVER sang to me before. Do I really want you to???) | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2733 Registered: 8-2003 |
"I don't think you EVER sang to me before. Do I really want you to???" Alas, no. You do not want me to sing to you. thank goodness Mutter Butter will have Notehead for a daddy. At least one of us can sing lullabyes in tune | ||
| notehead Supporter Username: Notehead Post Number: 3705 Registered: 5-2001 |
Yeah, like "Dirty Deeds (Done Dirt Cheap)" and other faves... | ||
| las Citizen Username: Las Post Number: 2168 Registered: 10-2003  |
Hi all. Pippi, how's the wardrobe working for you these days? | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2739 Registered: 8-2003 |
Are you asking because you want to take me shopping again? I am making do, but summer clothes are getting tight. I am TRYING to hold out until fall! thanks for asking.  | ||
| notehead Supporter Username: Notehead Post Number: 3711 Registered: 5-2001 |
I saw a bumper sticker this morning that seemed worth mentioning: "Be nice to your children. They'll choose your nursing home."  | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2741 Registered: 8-2003 |
let's remind our parents of that when they get out of line | ||
| Rosiegirl Citizen Username: Rosiegirl Post Number: 24 Registered: 5-2006 |
I thought the parents were all going to retire in SO w/ you guys!! | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2768 Registered: 8-2003 |
thanks to Xavier67, I am bookmarking this site, another diaper option http://www.jardinediapers.com/ | ||
| Rosiegirl Citizen Username: Rosiegirl Post Number: 33 Registered: 5-2006 |
Where are the pictures of Mutter Butter....MUST...SEE...PICTURES!!! | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2791 Registered: 8-2003 |
They're coming! Notehead has been SUPER busy the last couple of weeks, preparing for a gig at SOBs tomorrow night. Expect pics by thursday the latest! | ||
| notehead Supporter Username: Notehead Post Number: 3753 Registered: 5-2001 |
Behold... Mrbtabr is delightfully flexible... This gestating junior was basically break-dancing inside Pippi when this pic was taken. The technician was actually having a pretty difficult time getting all the angles she needed to photograph because of all the activity.  | ||
| Rosiegirl Citizen Username: Rosiegirl Post Number: 37 Registered: 5-2006 |
Sooo.....who do YOU think Mutter Butter looks like? Not surprised that (s)he was all over the dance floor!!! Congratulations!! xxoo, RosieGirl | ||
| BGS Supporter Username: Bgs Post Number: 1263 Registered: 10-2003 |
I see 4 legs I think or 4 very long arms!!!!! Are you carrying a surprise Pip??? :-) BGS | ||
| Pippi Supporter Username: Pippi Post Number: 2805 Registered: 8-2003 |
no surprises! (Despite Notehead praying for twins) You see the legs stretched toward the head, as well as the arms stretched over head. As Notehead mentioned, we got ourselves a very active baby. Rosie - i think Mrbtabr has my lips and Notehead's eyes |
