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vermontgolfer
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Username: Vermontgolfer

Post Number: 191
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 9:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark,

Thanks, that may be the case, but clearly the 'audience' speakers never get close enough to the mike.

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mayhewdrive
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 516
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 9:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It would seem the SO Grill should first hire a new Chef & also someone to handle marketing.

Except for the discussions here, nobody would ever know this place existed. I don't recall even seeing any ads in the NR, SL or any other ways of drawing in customers such as the "Val-Pak" mailers, etc.
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joso
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Username: Joso

Post Number: 135
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A sign of their predestined failure was that their idea of marketing was a series of Coors Lite and Budweiser posters in the window, Attractive to Seton Hall students maybe, but not the average So resident.
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Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 1048
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is this the place on South Orange Avenue next to the Dancing Goat? I might be confusing it with some other place. I've been to the place next to the DG twice. The first time I didn't order food, so no comment. The second time, the waiter was inflexible about small changes we requested, he forgot our requests for water many times. My wife requested her salad without dressing, and the waiter promised it without dressing. Then he brought it with dressing. She asked him to fix it, and he refused. This was all while smiling. It was the worst service I'd had in a long time.

Sorry if I'm talking about the wrong place.
Tom Reingold
There is nothing

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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 428
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

GasLight is on the left of Dancing G. South Orange Grille is on Valley near Toro Loco.
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lseltzer
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Username: Lseltzer

Post Number: 1903
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 1:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds exactly like the GasLight, Tom.
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joso
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Username: Joso

Post Number: 136
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 2:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apparently the SOG is going to make a comeback. Curiously, the manager was quoted in the NR as bemoaning the fact that it had turned into a Seton Hall hangout, and saying there was nothing he could do about that because SO in a college town. My suggestion to him: get rid of the Coors Lite posters in the window, add either a classier or warmer, or more family friendly atmosphere, and serve something other than bar food.
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 433
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 2:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you serve 18 Year old girls booze, you will become a Collage hangout.
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Marc
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Username: Bautisma

Post Number: 52
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 4:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

they were only serving bar food there?
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SoOrLady
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Username: Soorlady

Post Number: 154
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 5:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One other suggestion... don't open the bar weeks before you start serving food.
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Hlime
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Username: Hlime

Post Number: 7
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 5:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also: Just because you can turn a jukebox all the way up doesn't mean you should.
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vermontgolfer
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Username: Vermontgolfer

Post Number: 202
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 5:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sure I'll get blasted for this, but we've been there twice and the food and the service were fine, not great, but wouldn't have chased me away!
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mayhewdrive
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 532
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

why doesn't this surprise me?
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vermontgolfer
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Username: Vermontgolfer

Post Number: 208
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 7:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey, you have to have a sense of humor here, or else go somewhere else!
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mrosner
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Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 783
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 4:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By the way, Pappillion is now open.
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mayhewdrive
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 541
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 4:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and according to the BLOG on nj.com, it gets rave reviews....

http://www.nj.com/weblogs/southorange/
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Soda
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Username: Soda

Post Number: 1086
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 4:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stopped by Papillon this afternoon to check it out, and here's what I found out, FWIW:

*Katie, behind the bar, worked briefly at S.O. Grille, and told me that the Grille's owners were very wealthy garment center types with NO concept of how to do a restaurant; they overspent by $80K when they bought the place, then spent $3 million on it over 3 years, and have walked away without blinking an eye.

*I met Al, who runs the front of the house at Papillon (Yanick runs the gorgeous kitchen), and he told me that they'll soon be getting in some lovely artwork for the very bare walls in the dining room. The bar is already one of the coolest in any of the Oranges.

*The menu is very lengthy and ambitious, as are both the mixed drink and wine lists.

*They'll wait to get themselves pretty well set up as a smooth-running restaurant before they begin a strong ad campaign to announce the place to surrounding communities.

SO... My advice is to go soon, and often, and get to know the place and the folks. You'll wanna become a regular.

-Soda
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ral
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Username: Ral

Post Number: 68
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Sunday, December 28, 2003 - 9:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is the grille back open?
i've seen lights on...
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mayhewdrive
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 649
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

According to an ad in today's News Record, the "new" South Orange Grille is celebrating their "grand-reopening" with new management, a new menu & a strict 21 & over policy.

Anyone been there to see if it has in fact improved?
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 550
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have been there a few times under the new management. There hasn’t been much of an improvement yet. For now they’re just opening the bar at nights to keep some money flowing in. They have an extremely limited menu.

Give them some time to really get started before you try it, the decor is still nice and they do look like they have some good ideas.

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