| Author | Message | ||
     jfburch Citizen Username: Jfburch Post Number: 1017 Registered: 6-2001 |
Uh huh. | ||
| lumpyhead Citizen Username: Lumpyhead Post Number: 457 Registered: 3-2002 |
What year did you attend CHS? I was under the impression that you only moved here a few years ago but had a handle on all the local issues. Duh? | ||
| marie Citizen Username: Marie Post Number: 835 Registered: 6-2001 |
I am currently helping out with an after school event at MMS. I had to call the students in this group for some additional information - of the 12 numbers on my list, I only reached one student's answering machine. No one answered 7 of the calls. Three calls were bogus numbers, one disconnected and one call was answered by someone who didn't speak a word of English, so I couldn't ascertain whether I had reached the correct number or not. Implement a yearly registration for the High School. It's only four years. It will save the district millions cutting down on theft of services and lawsuits. Perhaps the BOE can work with the PTA's and HSA's and form a volunteer parent registration group as they did in my kid's school in NYC. After Mem, I'd be the first to volunteer my time. | ||
| jfburch Citizen Username: Jfburch Post Number: 1023 Registered: 6-2001 |
I hope you called Pat Barker with the names of the students you are concerned about. | ||
| marie Citizen Username: Marie Post Number: 836 Registered: 6-2001 |
I am going to call one more time tomorrow, followed by a last chance to provide a signed permission slip with a telephone number where a parent or guardian can be reached at the next meeting. After that, I will submit a list of all the names of students who have provided inadequate and or bogus information to Pat Barker's office. | ||
| michael Citizen Username: Michael Post Number: 392 Registered: 1-2002 |
Ask Steve Latz if he believes there can exsist such a thing as an "illegal student" period. That is , can a student be illegal. | ||
| Reflective Citizen Username: Reflective Post Number: 124 Registered: 3-2003 |
I believe his answer will be no, along with a convoluted mumbo jumbo statement about his grandparents (which I have heard on two occasions). In any event he has no concern for this issue and attacks (sometimes personally) people who raise the issue. As an aside, K Pettis ( a current candidate for the Township Committee) chaired a CCR subcommittee a few years ago and Ken personally reviewed the District's student registration policies and reported them to the CCR, I believe, sound. He has the first person experience, the contacts, the CCR credential. What is he saying now????? Does he agree with Latz? Maybe the issue is too sensitive. Sorry but the election is only a week and ahalf away, and this kp linkage is too good to pass up | ||
| michael Citizen Username: Michael Post Number: 394 Registered: 1-2002 |
Reflective, exactly. If that's what people want on our BOE, keep voting him in. Liberal is one thing, but c'mon ! This has gone far enough. | ||
| ffof Citizen Username: Ffof Post Number: 1602 Registered: 5-2001  |
For all future BOE voters, in the next election, take note of who Latz supports, then vote for the other guys (gals). | ||
| lumpyhead Citizen Username: Lumpyhead Post Number: 460 Registered: 3-2002 |
No more ignoring, minimizing and justifying. The gig is up. | ||
| snowmom Citizen Username: Snowmom Post Number: 113 Registered: 5-2001 |
foff - excellent advice! | ||
| flugermongers Citizen Username: Flugermongers Post Number: 79 Registered: 5-2001 |
I think it's ridiculous that we worry about such a small percentage. Probably less than 1% of students are illegal, and so it's really not much to nothing out of any of our pockets. Plus this gives kids who would otherwise not have a chance at education, a chance. Have hearts, people, not just wallets. | ||
| flugermongers Citizen Username: Flugermongers Post Number: 80 Registered: 5-2001 |
And there are much bigger things to worry about than that, remember how Maplewood screwed us in the tax evals? That cost many of us way more. | ||
| guessagain Citizen Username: Guessagain Post Number: 4 Registered: 12-2003 |
Flug..let's say you are right..illegals are only 1%. Well, next year maybe 2% or 5%. We get the rep as an easy mark..with large hearts and really large wallets..it gets up to 10%,15% maybe 25%. Is it now a big enough problem to worry about? Or should we educate all of Essex County on our dime? | ||
| flugermongers Citizen Username: Flugermongers Post Number: 81 Registered: 5-2001 |
guessagain -- Guess again! (haha sorry had to do that). I'm saying probably less than 1%, and it's not a new thing (didn't you ever watch Beverly Hills 90210?). Anyway, it's not new, so the less than 1%, if you're talking about theoretical growing rates, would be what it has grown to. So it wouldn't grow at that rate, and since classes go in and out.. just as long as we're makin up our own stats, it'll prolly remain around the same. | ||
| flugermongers Citizen Username: Flugermongers Post Number: 82 Registered: 5-2001 |
Oh -- and I'm not irrational. If it were up to 25% of course that's not our responsibility. I'm just saying that right now, it's hardly affecting us. Though because it's around 1%, the government should look into making education in those areas better. Hm.. yeah, that's tgonna happen soon | ||
| Diversity Man Citizen Username: Deadwhitemale Post Number: 556 Registered: 5-2001 |
Students can not be "illegal" per se. They exist. But, they can be illegally registered if they submit documentation containing false representations, upon which representations the district relies at least in part in determining the student can enroll in district. DWM | ||
| fringe Citizen Username: Fringe Post Number: 264 Registered: 5-2001 |
It has been suggested above without any evidence cited that less than 65 SO-M students(1% of enrollment)are "illegal". Compare this belief with statements by long time CHS faculty who have stated for the record at BOE meetings that the number at CHS alone exceeds 400 or semi-private comments by senior building level administrators to local elected officials that "illegal students" represent the largest single problem at the school. The term "illegal" encompasses many things and is larger than the legal definition of "domicile" set forth in NJ statutes, nevertheless, at least some of those directly involved with students believe there is a problem that needs to be addressed. JTL | ||
| John Davenport Citizen Username: Jjd Post Number: 116 Registered: 2-2003 |
What, then, is your proposed solution? This is not intended as a hostile question. I honestly want a practical proposal here. I think Board candidates should be willing to consider any reasonable and not overly expensive way of getting to the bottom of this, so we can get it behind us. Such a solution must, of course, be one that doesn't invite costly lawsuits in response. I cannot see any such solution myself, at the moment, and would say that here again, the solution requires action in Trenton, and all we can do is lobby them. But maybe you are more imaginative, so propose something. | ||
| Montagnard Citizen Username: Montagnard Post Number: 349 Registered: 6-2003 |
The problem is that illegal students (and their parents, guardians, or whatever) are lying about their entitlement to a place in our schools. However, any request by the District for corroborating information must be made in a way that cannot be misinterpreted as discriminatory. One obvious question is how much power the District has in obtaining the relevant documents before a student can attend class. Any lawyers out there with the answer? |
