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virgilian
Citizen Username: Virgilian
Post Number: 179 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 11:56 am: |    |
Soorlady-- Good points about help around the house. Maintenance free condo living seems better suited to modern schedules. Thankfully Maplewood/South Orange are still blessed with some people who stay at home/go outside into the yard occasionally. |
   
Crazyguggenheim
Citizen Username: Crazyguggenheim
Post Number: 494 Registered: 2-2002

| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 12:09 pm: |    |
Call me crazy, but when I find that in one breath I'm criticising every vinyl window owner in town and in the next telling everyone how blessed I am to have them as neighbors, I've probably forgotten my meds. Call me crazy |
   
virgilian
Citizen Username: Virgilian
Post Number: 181 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 12:19 pm: |    |
yes, I am whipped up into a frenzy of sorts. That poor house down the block. Their poor blessed neighbors. Poor blessed me. |
   
virgilian
Citizen Username: Virgilian
Post Number: 182 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 12:19 pm: |    |
A poor street now. Poor. |
   
gemini
Citizen Username: Gemini
Post Number: 258 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 1:02 pm: |    |
I have to say I'm glad virgilian is bringing this up, even if it seems extreme to most. This is a beatiful town and she (I think she...) is very well intended. COnstruction is not bad inherently, but using sub-standard materials may be. Unfortunately most people don't set priorities in such a way when buying a house; they think "wow, new windows...". Personally I'd never use vinly, alum, etc. or those "snap on grids", nor would I buy a house with them, but there is a market. However, if the same house is rebuilt with superior products, a different market with more money or higher buidilng standards will pay the up-charge for sure. |
   
gemini
Citizen Username: Gemini
Post Number: 259 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 1:02 pm: |    |
VIrgillian are you on any committees in town, ie village alliance where you can actually have a say about such things? |
   
virgilian
Citizen Username: Virgilian
Post Number: 185 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 1:23 pm: |    |
I can't divulge such secrets. I hide behind the anonymity of this forum so that I can spew vitriol whenever I see a house being ruined. |
   
lefty
Citizen Username: Lefty
Post Number: 21 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 1:23 pm: |    |
"Personally I'd never use vinly, alum, etc. or those "snap on grids", nor would I buy a house with them, but there is a market." Gemini, i don't think there's a market like that for homes in maplewood. However, many people - like myself - want to live in maplewood, and if there's a great house in a great location for sale that happens to have vinyl siding so be it....I'll get to replacing that later when i have the money. I hate the look of it as much as you and virgilian, but don't make me feel like Hester Prynne.
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JGTierney
Citizen Username: Jtg7448
Post Number: 125 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 3:14 pm: |    |
Is there an Architectural Review Board in Town? Just curious. What type of things do they review/approve? Additions? Signage for stores downtown? |
   
ffof
Citizen Username: Ffof
Post Number: 1802 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 4:03 pm: |    |
Okay, virgilian's rant is cute, but what I hate more is BAD COLOR CHOICE! Why do people use purple trim? or how about black raspberry ice cream color? (I won't mention locations to protect the innocent!) Now mind you, fresh paint is better than chipped peeling paint(in fact, I'm sure my neighbors must be talking about our flaky, dirty facade), but please, call me first before you use some hideous color. Oh, and how about that one Benj Moore color people use thinking that it is beige? It's flesh! Yuck!
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themp
Citizen Username: Themp
Post Number: 351 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 4:15 pm: |    |
Virgillian you are like a madly tedious snob. Go get some work out of the house and mind your own goddam business. If you like your garden so much go lie down under it for a while. |
   
bobk
Supporter Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4277 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 4:20 pm: |    |
JG, the Township set up an historical preservation committee a couple of years ago. They have the power to designate buildings as historical over the protest of the owner. Since there are no benefits, like tax advantages, to being designated I don't think there has been a lot of activity for voluntary designations. I haven't heard of any involuntary ones either. IMHO the architectual merit of Maplewood doesn't rest with individual homes for the most part, but with numerous very nicely preserved streets, windows and vinyl siding to the contrary.
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marian
Citizen Username: Marian
Post Number: 69 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 5:17 pm: |    |
virgilian, "MANY HOUSES ARE BETTER LEFT TO THOSE FINANCIALLY ABLE TO MAINTIN THEM." ??? That's a pretty “classest” blanket statement you make. What are you saying? That if someone can afford an old house in Maplewood, but can't afford to maintain it to your exacting standards, don't bother? I have to wonder if you are for real? I'm also wondering why are we all wasting our time responding to this ridiculous thread. Hey, I like the look of a well-maintained house as much as anyone, but I'm not arrogant (or classest) enough to suggest imposing my will on what type of building materials my neighbors should use. Especially if I don't even know if they can afford them!
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themp
Citizen Username: Themp
Post Number: 357 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 5:33 pm: |    |
Crappy old woodframe houses were not built to last forever anyway. My floors roll like the sea. I need a lifeline to get up the swells. Maybe I'll go home and put photogray, star-shaped windows in just to annoy people. |
   
Lizziecat
Citizen Username: Lizziecat
Post Number: 127 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 7:03 pm: |    |
Virgilian is rude, judgemental and anal. If Virgilian were in the market for an old house, I would refuse to sell him mine, in which I have lived for more than 30 years, and which has been updated with three new bathrooms, new kitchen, deck, all new wiring, all new plumbing, new boiler, and all new Tru-Thermal windows (vinyl). We retain the beautiful wood floors and the original siding. But everything that didn't work has been replaced. And will continue to be replaced. And my neighbors do the same with their houses--and no one has ever complained. Virgilian has a lot of nerve passing judgement on others. |
   
virgilian
Citizen Username: Virgilian
Post Number: 191 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 7:05 pm: |    |
Marian, that's exactly what I said and what I meant. Thanks for underscoring the point. No, you put it in boldface. Thanks for emboldening my provocative statement. If you, Marian, buy the house next door to me, I surely hope you shoulder the cost of taking care of it. That's all I mean. My neighborhood doesn't look completely like Union yet. If it's classist, it's classist. It's why I wanted a high quality house amongst neighbors willing to keep up thier houses. Banish me.
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virgilian
Citizen Username: Virgilian
Post Number: 192 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 7:08 pm: |    |
Lizziecat, Anal? What in the world do you mean by characterizing me this way? Anal? Pretty disgusting for this forum--explain what you mean please. |
   
virgilian
Citizen Username: Virgilian
Post Number: 193 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 7:11 pm: |    |
Open invitation to other tedious snobs: Please move to Maplewood |
   
virgilian
Citizen Username: Virgilian
Post Number: 194 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 7:20 pm: |    |
And buy the houses directly around me. |
   
kevin
Citizen Username: Kevin
Post Number: 161 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 7:23 pm: |    |
Virgilian -- Lizziecat was charactarizing you as anal retentive. By definition, being anal retentive means a person exhibits compulsive cleanliness, orderliness, or fussiness. or, according to the 'urban dictionary': anal retentive - To be a prick and make everyone want to beat the dog crap out of you.
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