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debby
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Username: Debby

Post Number: 100
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 11:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We're considering Pergo or a similar quality laminate floor, and know that it is scratch resistant as compared to hard wood. But will it hold up to a dog?

Thanks
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JGTierney
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Username: Jtg7448

Post Number: 113
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 8, 2004 - 10:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Debby,

I just visited friends in New Orleans who have Pergo floors.
They also have a large German Shephard.

No scratches and he roams the house!
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SoOrLady
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Username: Soorlady

Post Number: 252
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 8, 2004 - 12:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have Pergo in our 1st floor laundry & powder rooms - it's about 3 years old and is, so far, Labrador resistant.
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Rick Beley
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Username: Ruck1977

Post Number: 11
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 8, 2004 - 12:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

unrelated but...you should trim your dogs nails if they are scratching the floor, he will love you for it!
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bobk
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Post Number: 4229
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, January 8, 2004 - 12:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The surface on Pergo and prefinished hardwood floors is baked on at the factory. It is much more durable than a contractor applied polyurethane.
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Michael K. Mc Kell
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Username: Greenerose

Post Number: 179
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 8, 2004 - 9:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pergo is garbage period.
Wait till you have a scratch or need to resurface. I would NEVER recommend it or install it for that matter.
When water gets in it'll start to show why it's called a floating floor. For the price I'd go with a pre-finished 3/4" floor. Call flemington dept. stores.
Again it's garbage and nothing will change my mind about this "Trading Spaces" junk!
Michael K. Mc Kell
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millie amoresano
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 8, 2004 - 9:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When we bought our home there was Pergo in the basement.When Hurricane Floyd hit we had some water in the basement the Pergo floor began to separate.We tiled our basement floor now and its been great.My husband would also not recommend Pergo in any part of the home especailly where there is water (kitchen,bathroom etc.)
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shh
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Post Number: 845
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, January 9, 2004 - 9:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting!
We have wood floors and I was thinking of using a wood laminate in our kitchen/bathrooms to coordinate with the wood elswhere. (I admit I like the look/feel of wood in a bathroom instead of cold tiles.)
This makes me rethink that.
Also, we have wood in our front hall, and after just a few years, it already needs to be redone. I guess tile is a better choice in this application as well.

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Richard O'Connor
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Post Number: 72
Registered: 6-2001


Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 2:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my 2 cents

WOOD .... real wood .... is great but requires care and feeding ... and that is a yearly thing ... we're not talking resuracing...we're talking cleaning, waxing, bufffing

PERGO ... ok for some very limited uses ... I have all the fears expressed and am not impressed so far with what i've seen installed ...(tends to look a little plastic) ....

TILE .. excellent ... if you don't mind how hard it is and with stone ... a great surface for foyers and other high traffic wet areas ....

Vinyl sheet ... if you buy good (read expensive) its also great ... what I ended up with in my kitchen...

WOOD is not good for WET places ... (unless you're going to have cedar or similar wood ... it doesnt' like water ... and wears badly...

Wood used to be in kitchens all the time ... but women (sorry ladies) spent a lot of time caring for these floors ...scrubbing, waxing, oiling, buffing ... if you arent' going to devote an hour a week to your new wood kitchen floor, you aren't going to be fond of how it looks in 2 or 3 years ...

Again ... Wood was great ... and it may be architecturally correct, but modern people don't spend the kind of time doing hard manual work in their homes . . .

So my 2 cents are wood for living, dining and bedrooms, something either hard (stone, tile, brick) for traffic and wet areas ... and where kitchens are concerned .. something in the land of vinyl composite (I have an armstrong I love) because dropping that glass isn't going to always kill it. (But I am in many ways opposed to stone counters for this reason too ... I don't like these 'too hard' surfaces in a room where so many things are breakable. :-)


Richard (ROC)
--Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark; professionals built the Titanic.--
--AIM: ROConn
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JGTierney
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Post Number: 120
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 8:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

(Thread Drift)

Some material options:

There are some vinyl materials out now that
are truely attractive. One is Chilewich - nice looking stuff. It is sold in squares or by the roll or as standard size mats.
We are going to install wood (the real thing) in our kitchen and put some of these mats down in the high traffic areas. We have combined the kitchen and the dining room, so we felt the flooring surface should be contiguous. I'll let you know in 3 years how I feel about it.
Also - for countertops soapstone is more appropriate for our period homes, IMHO, than granite. There is also a product called Fireslate which looks like soapstone, but cheaper.
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kevin
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Post Number: 160
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 10:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone looked into or used bamboo flooring?

It's supposedly as hard as maple and more stable than red oak. It can also be glued, nailed down or floated. Other than that, I don't know anything about it.
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JGTierney
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Post Number: 122
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 11:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yep. I like it alot (from an aesthetic
standpoint.)

Check out www.moso.com or www.timbergrass.com

It is more environmentally friendly than hardwood but the care/use is similar.

They sell it as a veneer now too - so you can
use it for a variety of applications.
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Michael K. Mc Kell
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Username: Greenerose

Post Number: 181
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 6:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I may sound like I'm knocking the "trendy products" Well.... I am.
We just installed a bamboo floor in an addition right here in Maplewood and as mentioned above it is aestheticly pleasing. But.... Were already repalcing sections due to it being so soft. It is in no way in the same catagory as maple or oak.
We did a test with a single spec of gravel just by walking on it the material produced an indent.
Word of advise. Take your shoes off at all times when walking on this stuff.
And did I mention it only comes in (3) foot lenghts?
Poo Poo on Bamboo.
Michael K. Mc Kell
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JGTierney
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Username: Jtg7448

Post Number: 127
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 9:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael,

If you look at the site both the sites I posted and check under product specs...the Timbergrass or Teragren comes in varying lenghts from 2' to 6'.

The Moso website also goes on to explain that like Oak or Maple, the grading quality of bamboo varies. Like all products - some companies make a better product than others!?!?

The problem with new or trendy materials is that they have not yet been through industry testing standards. The contractor, architect, buyer needs to beware and do their research - but not necessarily stay away.

So, what sort of material was specified on your particular installation?
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kevin
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Post Number: 162
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 10:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael,

I think that you are making broad generalizations in your post. It sounds as though you are in the trade, so I won't doubt your experience. It would however, make me question using your services after you formed an opinion on a type of flooring when you only have experience with one brand's product line.

You said that bamboo flooring is 'so soft' and 'only comes in (3) foot lengths'.

You did not mention the brand or model of the product that you installed. I did some quick research. There are many brands available made from different species of bamboo which are grown in different regions and processed differently - and thus different qualities.

Many manufacturers offer 2, 3 or 6 foot planks.

Dark colored bamboo is carbonized, which is acheived by steam and heating. This process weakens bamboo and make it softer than natural colored bamboo.

Horizontal lamination is about 15% harder than vertical lamination.

Also, you posted earlier that Pergo is 'garbage period'. You might not like it or recommend it to anyone, but it might be the right product for someone, somewhere. I don't own any Pergo or bamboo. I have just been starting to think about flooring options.

I have not read (or paid attention to) any of your other posts, so maybe I shouldn't be so judgemental.
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kevin
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Post Number: 163
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 10:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I must have missed JGTierney's last post, but it sounds like we had similar thoughts....
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kevin
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Username: Kevin

Post Number: 164
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 11:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any comments about cork flooring?

I've heard that it is very durable with dogs running around. It is also supposedly warm, sound absorbing, and easy on your back and feet if you stand a lot (like in the kitchen).


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JGTierney
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Post Number: 128
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 11:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kevin,

I've never specified it or used it myself - so I can't honestly comment.

But check out http://www.naturalcork.com

A lot of older materials are getting used again (like vinyl)!
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Richard O'Connor
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Username: Roconn

Post Number: 99
Registered: 6-2001


Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 11:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I put an Armstrong Solarian (vinyl) floor in my kitchen and it is GREAT ... (admittedlly its only a year old so who knows but ... )

Looks good...easy to stand on for long periods ... and cleans up excellently with the swiffer wetjet (when I'm too lazy to deal with a bucket and a mop)
Richard (ROC)
--Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark; professionals built the Titanic.--
--AIM: ROConn
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mtierney
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Username: Mtierney

Post Number: 474
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 12:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

May I thread-drift a tad? I have seen vinyl exterior shakes on very expensive new housing (much down the shore) which really looks good.
Since I have always hated vinyl siding in the past, this new stuff surprised me.
Any comments?

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